I agree...and I know that I have a tendancy...often :rolleyes: ...to be a little too blunt sometimes. But there are some instances that come up that no matter how nicely you put it, if it's not the desired answer, you are atomatically 'attacking' or should not have 'judged.':( Seems like it's tough to find a good balance.

I think what people are trying to get at here is that we welcome the opinions and advice...that is why we post here. but there is a right way and a wrong way to post your opinions. when you do it in a mean, judgmental way, that is just wrong. you can be nice and still say what you believe or think. just simply thinking of others' feelings would be a great place to start. there are many many times where i don't post because i strongly disagree with what is being posted. and there are times that i strongly disagree...but i try to post my opinion in the nicest way possible...because you just never know who's feelings you might hurt. and if we are all considerate of peoples feelings...this would never be a problem.

yes...tell your opinions...tell your thoughts...but do it with tact. and general consideration.

It is tough to find a good balance but i think that we have to if we want to keep yt a friendly productive place to be.

I will bet there are a ton of members right now that have read this thread but will not post because they fear they will be ridiculed for their opinion and i find that sad:(

I agree. You will always have people that get offended and feel attacked if you so much as just don't agree with them, even if you were super super nice about it. You just have to do the best you can

That is sad...why be afraid to post your opinion?? I don't get it.. Everyone has a right to their opinion. I don't care if someone disagrees with me as long as they are nice about it

Completely understand what you are trying to say, but I think that should go two ways. The person posting a thread should also consider feelings and how what they are going to post may also upset others.:)

I agree with that statement 100%...But I bet their watching ;)

but we have to understand....there are a lot of people that are first time yorkie owners that have a LOT of questions that we "veterans" may think are silly or maybe even wrong of them to ask. we all start somewhere. When I had my daughter, I was calling her pediatrician ALL THE TIME asking questions. had they been rude with their answers, i would have been scared to death. it's the same thing here...we have to understand that some people are posting questions or comments that we may not agree with...and yes,..we should tell them our opinions...but we should be considerate about it. you will have the occasional person that gets defensive about what you have to say..but it is each person's individual responsibility to walk away without fighting about it. someone has to stop somewhere.

i think ambers post not only goes out to people that are replying to questions and such,...but to those posting the threads to begin with.

all in all, we should ALL be considerate of how others might feel. some people talk a lot of bad about dogs from pet stores..and we have a lot of wonderful members here with dogs from pet stores....people really need to be careful what they say about pet store dogs because it could really hurt or upset some of the other members...

yes...it goes both ways :)

well i posted a poll that everyone can express how they feel but it doesn't have to be public maybe we can get an idea of how people really feel

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...07#post1402207

I don't post very much here, I get my feelings hurt to easily so I'm one that is afraid. I do a lot of reading, and when YorkieRose gives advice, I actually take notes. Very nice lady.

Maybe when the mean posts are spotted, someone can click on the exclamation point triangle and report it right away. I have noticed it is usually the same ones most of the time, not all the time, but most.

Great post Amber!

Thanks! I agree with you i think we need to be useing that button a lot more. also i think we should be calling out the mean posters as well.:thumbup:

me wishes u would post more...we weally weally like you :) you are a sweeeety :)

oh...and after all this time, i have never noticed that button LOL

it's on now HAHAHAHAHAHA

j/k :) I will use it wisely hehe

Good points PePe.:thumbup:

I know several people that just read YT because they are afraid of people responding negatively to them. I understand with this many members that someone is always gonna be there waiting for the next chance to start an argument. Those types of people are everywhere. Which is sad. I figure if I have a question and I'd like an honest answer I'll post it anyway. If someone posts back with something snotty then I just pretend like they never even sent it. I usually don't get worked up about it. I just think....they will do that to someone else and within a month they probably won't even be a member anymore, and that's usually the case. For every few bad people on here I can name so many good. Those people keep me coming back. Poo on those negative people. :)

exactly :)

I've dropped off a lot lately because of a new feeling of negativity on threads that wasn't here when I joined.

I've seen threads being closed, people being bashed indirectly on other threads, etc. (The new batch of crazies who pop on every so often are not so bad - they're even funny and I don't let them bother me.)

What bothers me is the unnecessary nastiness I've seen. I'm finished buying into the excuse that this is an open forum and everybody is entitled to voice their opinions. This is true, however, putting that same opinion as nicely as you can is an adult choice. I don't have to listen to anyone's opinion if I feel they're just out and out nasty about how they state it.

As far as I'm concerned, that excuse is nonsense. The reality is that some people don't want to post here anymore, so, true or not, it's just not working out well. Learn to be nice about what you have to say, or don't say it at all.
In other words, grow up!

I just got a new puppy and haven't really put up too many pictures, nor shared a lot about her and Max. There are some people here who I do not want to share my joy or my business with. I don't need their negative energy in my life.

On the other hand, these people are in the minority. Most YT members are wonderful, amazing people who I care about. I care about your dogs, your families, when someone is sick, when you share your happiness and your sorrows.

I have also learned 90% of what I know about Yorkies from YT. I could not have raised Max so well without the help and support of YT. I certainly couldn't have found Gracie Leigh without the help and advice of YTers.

I'll be back on, but I do not believe that "freedom to state your opinion" crap.
State your opinion to somebody else. I just don't care all that much about it and I don't want negativity in my life.

Just my opinion.

Here's another question and point to consider: At what point do you post based on the dog's well being vs the person who may have their feelings hurt? Where do you draw that line?

I.e. "I'm going to breed my 2 1/2 pound female" At what point do you take the dog's interest to heart and base a response on what's best for her vs 'not caring' and refraining from posting altogether?:(

Hi Janet, Now that you mention it I don't see you posting much,any more, I always liked your posts...that's a shame you've stopped doing it as much because some one had a mean streak....I hope you reconsider.....

I can only remember two posts where I was taken aback, one of them posted a reply peppered with exclamation points...all I could think was,"Why didn't you just ask for clarification w/o the shotgun blast of exclamation points"..... sheesh....then I got over it....

Just let me interject my feelings here. I do try to temper my words when posting. However, it's very difficult when you see people come on here posting about accidents....or people that haven't done their homework. It does anger me, because they didn't think of the dogs.......yes, to me they come first. To me it's irresponsible pet ownership, but it doesn't stop me from attempting to help.

Lol...that's funny.:p

ohhhh, You got my started with the exclamation marks! (!)..... They are either good (like when you have something 'happy' to say) or they just make what that person say seem like yelling...

Just a thought but what if in that kind of situation you P.M.ed the person and tell them you wanted to offer some advice in private so as to not cause unnecessary hurt or embarrassment and offer her the info....

and you are a prize example on how you help someone without bashing them into the ground!:thumbup: i know how passionate you are about the breed and you help a lot of people here with your wisdom and you do it with a positive attitude

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

i agree..i always want to help when i can...but again...there is a considerate way to help...and a rude way to offer your help.

maybe those people were not raised with the knowlege or taught how to do the research necessary....so they come here...and that is where it is our duty to help them learn. in a nice way :)

i will say...i don't have any problems with your posts...you carry yourself very professionally in all of the posts i have read from you. you sound knowledgeable and i am sure you have helped many many people. we are all blessed that you are willing to offer that help...as many others do.

But unfortunately, that IS the case, to an extent.(And pretty significant part of what this country was founded on...regardless to what anyone's opinion is.) Maybe not nice, or ethical, or preferred, but fact, nevertheless.:) "Freedom of Speach" (and opinion) is 'all the time', not just when it's 'what you want to hear.' :(

I guess...of course, for all those who "just read" as it has been pointed out in this very thread...they would only read the comments posted, so it really wouldn't do them any good, would it? :( Kind of a no win situation.

I have to agree with you Amber with this observation...Some people stick in our memories for good reasons or bad reasons, Mardelin has always been informative w/o making the person feel stupid for asking or condescending toward the person....Mardelin sticks in my memory for being one of the good ones :thumbup: ....

What are you trying to say? !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!!:p