Upset over "Rehoming" Threads

[Dan & Corinne]

Originally Posted by bornnygurl

*sigh* I contemplated even responding to this thread for several reasons. I am going against my better judgement and throwing my hat in the ring even though it seems I am in the minority opinion here.

First, I must state that I do have a problem with people who re-home their dogs for any other reason then for the good of dog. If the dog is not happy in his home (and this has happened to me) there shouldn't be any backlash in re-homing him. I also have a huge problem with people re-homing their dogs simply because the dog is not trained or because it wasn't the size the expected, etc. However, when it comes to personality (which can not be changed) I am very empathetic to people who re-home their dogs because of this reason. Often times breeders (this has happened to me) lie just to make a sale when a person is looking for a specific temperament. No matter how many times you go to see the dog to check out it's temperament you can never really know what the dog's personality is going to be like when he settles into his new home. Only the breeder would absolutely know this. I have two very dominant female dachshunds. One of which is very mentally unstable. I can not have another dominant and hyper female or male with her around. It was bad enough in the beginning with my two females (and I am not a novice to training) getting along. She is finally trained (behavior problems have been controlled but not eliminated) and after over a year she and my oldest are the best of friends; but as I said she is mentally unstable and the oddest things can just set her off. Therefore, a dog who is overly hyper and dominant would not be good in our home. I envy those who can get any dog no matter what the temperament and make it work, I just can't.

As long as the person re-homing the dog does not dump him at a shelter or any other irresponsible means of re-homing the pet I do not see how this should raise such an uproar. If they are careful in interviewing and making sure the right person gets the right dog this is idea. In this case the person is doing what the breeder should have done; match the right dog to the right family.

*ducking for the backlash*

I hope you don't get any backlash either. There are circumstances where you don't have a choice but to rehome and your post is a great example of why one may have to.

[YorkieRose]

I did not rehome my first 3 girls...the thoughts of letting those 3 go would have broken my heart.
Then I got serious with breeding/showing...if it is a passion and in your blood, you will not take a break wait for the old ones to go to Rainbow Bridge before getting a few new ones...you don't want to stop. As I have said before..a serious breeder is cut from a different cloth...we think different.

The more I progressed the more breeders I met...and what an eye opener. I have been to the kennels/homes of finest of the finest, the lowest of the low and every type breeder in between...
Nothing sadder then 40 or 50 Yorkies stacked in cages, growing old, little attention, waiting for the death angel to release them to a better life...
Breeders start out with the best of intentions, then things get out of hand so easily..and I have been called more then once to go help a friend before they put a gun to their head....I have never had a problem telling a breeder friend they had too many dogs and needed to downsize. The breeders feelings are a non-issue, the dogs best interest is what counts..
Been there are few times myself...

[YorkieShadow]

I agree a pet to me is a forever thing until death. I dont see how any one can do it and it also makes me feel so sad for those being rehomed and some over and over again.
And The same goes for Breeders. Im sorry But I dont understand this at all.
rehoming a girl that was retired from breeding? After what this little girl did for The breeders.
WE use to breed Boxers, I still have the old female. I could never rehome her.
WE use to stud out our male Pittbull, We still have him, just because they are both retired, I could never rehome them, I brought them into this family and feel that is where they will stay.
WE had a beautiful home we lived in and planned on buying this home. Well we was told to rehome our pitt or move. We had three small children, could not find any thing close . Yes WE moved and now live in a trailer on 5 acres, Why ? because we needed a home fast and so we bought this so we could keep our Family dog. sadly thou she dies shortly after. Do I regret it? No... Id do it again. To me a pet is for life. No ands ifs or buts.

[Dan & Corinne]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

I did not rehome my first 3 girls...the thoughts of letting those 3 go would have broken my heart.
Then I got serious with breeding/showing...if it is a passion and in your blood, you will not take a break wait for the old ones to go to Rainbow Bridge before getting a few new ones...you don't want to stop. As I have said before..a serious breeder is cut from a different cloth...we think different.

The more I progressed the more breeders I met...and what an eye opener. I have been to the kennels/homes of finest of the finest, the lowest of the low and every type breeder in between...
Nothing sadder then 40 or 50 Yorkies stacked in cages, growing old, little attention, waiting for the death angel to release them to a better life...
Breeders start out with the best of intentions, then things get out of hand so easily..and I have been called more then once to go help a friend before they put a gun to their head....I have never had a problem telling a breeder friend they had too many dogs and needed to downsize. The breeders feelings are a non-issue, the dogs best interest is what counts..
Been there are few times myself...

Thank you for your eye opening post. It's heartfelt and I have more compassion and respect for serious breeders. I can just visualize those poor dogs left in crates. I'm sure it must be so hard to have that heart to heart talk with the breeders who can't care for all the dogs properly. I wish all breeders were more like you.

Thank you for sharing!

[YorkieShadow]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

I did not rehome my first 3 girls...the thoughts of letting those 3 go would have broken my heart.
Then I got serious with breeding/showing...if it is a passion and in your blood, you will not take a break wait for the old ones to go to Rainbow Bridge before getting a few new ones...you don't want to stop. As I have said before..a serious breeder is cut from a different cloth...we think different.

The more I progressed the more breeders I met...and what an eye opener. I have been to the kennels/homes of finest of the finest, the lowest of the low and every type breeder in between...
Nothing sadder then 40 or 50 Yorkies stacked in cages, growing old, little attention, waiting for the death angel to release them to a better life...
Breeders start out with the best of intentions, then things get out of hand so easily..and I have been called more then once to go help a friend before they put a gun to their head....I have never had a problem telling a breeder friend they had too many dogs and needed to downsize. The breeders feelings are a non-issue, the dogs best interest is what counts..
Been there are few times myself...

I do understand where you are coming from. and I agree they should not be in cages to wait their death. To me this is not a good breeder one that cages their females and breeds and breeds them . What life is that?
If a breeder can have 40 or 50 Yorkies stacked in cages, growing old, little attention, waiting for the death Then they seem no better then a puppy mill to me. To me a Female that is used for breeding should get the love and attention that they exspect from thier puppy buyers. Why should these dogs thats being breed have or feel any less.

[Dan & Corinne]

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow

I agree a pet to me is a forever thing until death. I dont see how any one can do it and it also makes me feel so sad for those being rehomed and some over and over again.
And The same goes for Breeders. Im sorry But I dont understand this at all.
rehoming a girl that was retired from breeding? After what this little girl did for The breeders.
WE use to breed Boxers, I still have the old female. I could never rehome her.
WE use to stud out our male Pittbull, We still have him, just because they are both retired, I could never rehome them, I brought them into this family and feel that is where they will stay.
WE had a beautiful home we lived in and planned on buying this home. Well we was told to rehome our pitt or move. We had three small children, could not find any thing close . Yes WE moved and now live in a trailer on 5 acres, Why ? because we needed a home fast and so we bought this so we could keep our Family dog. sadly thou she dies shortly after. Do I regret it? No... Id do it again. To me a pet is for life. No ands ifs or buts.

I'm not disagreeing with you but I believe there is a huge difference between a small breeding program and a larger breeding program. If someone is only producing a few litters a year, I would think you are able to keep all your dogs, love them and care for them for their entire life and it's wonderful! But if a breeder has a larger operation, I would rather see the retired dogs go to a home where the can be loved and charished. I'm not a breeder and will never be a breeder, but take a look at the Westminster Kennel Show, most of these dogs come for larger operations who is striving to produce the "Perfect" dog. With out them, we would not have breeds of our choice which are healthy and close to comfirmation. To produce a elite champion, they would require a larger breeding program. I understand it is rare for a Westminster level champion to come from a small breeding program since it would take many, many years to reach that level.

Bottom line is Re-home if it is in the best interest of the dog. What I don't like to see is dogs being rehomed because the dog did not live up to the owners expectation in size, color, or behavior from not being trained properly and then they turn around and get a new puppy.

This thread was not aimed at breeders and I don't want any bickering over breeders. I knew I shouldn't have started this thread... I tried to be very careful of how I worded the thread with hopes that breeders would not be targeted. I'm so sorry

[MeganS]

Maddie is a retired breeder. She apperantly had no maternal instinct and only had 1 pup both times she had a litter. Her owner Tracy knew that she'd be better off in a home where she could get more attention, and that's why we have her today. I know that Tracy loved (and still loves) Maddie very, very much. and I believe she proved that by seeing over her own feelings, and doing what was best for Maddie.

Now. When people rehome dogs because they don't like their coloring, size, or they aren't trained I want to hit them across the head. That's no reason to put that kind of stress on a dog. However I also think there are exceptions to this. We used to have a black lab named Shadow who really was the sweetest dog. But he was psychotic or something. he litteraly ate the couch. I was still really young, and my parents didnt have enough attention/energy to care for him. So now he lives on a farm with another dog just like him and a nice lady.

But (sorry I got a bit off topic) yeah. i don't think people should rehome dogs just because they're bigger than they wanted, they dont like their coloring, or something like that.

[YorkieShadow]

Originally Posted by Dan & Corinne

I'm not disagreeing with you but I believe there is a huge difference between a small breeding program and a larger breeding program. If someone is only producing a few litters a year, I would think you are able to keep all your dogs, love them and care for them for their entire life and it's wonderful! But if a breeder has a larger operation, I would rather see the retired dogs go to a home where the can be loved and charished. I'm not a breeder and will never be a breeder, but take a look at the Westminster Kennel Show, most of these dogs come for larger operations who is striving to produce the "Perfect" dog. With out them, we would not have breeds of our choice which are healthy and close to comfirmation. To produce a elite champion, they would require a larger breeding program. I understand it is rare for a Westminster level champion to come from a small breeding program since it would take many, many years to reach that level.

Bottom line is Re-home if it is in the best interest of the dog. What I don't like to see is dogs being rehomed because the dog did not live up to the owners expectation in size, color, or behavior from not being trained properly and then they turn around and get a new puppy.

This thread was not aimed at breeders and I don't want any bickering over breeders. I knew I shouldn't have started this thread... I tried to be very careful of how I worded the thread with hopes that breeders would not be targeted. I'm so sorry

I was not trying to target any breeders, I was just saying how I felt like everyone else did and if I come off that way Im sorry. And Im sorry but I have to dieagree with rehoming. If a breeder has to cage their Females because they are retired then yes they need to rehome them, They dont deserve a life in a cage. For all that this Female has done for her breeder, she deserves the best. Breeders who have so many and have no choice but to cage, Well thats just sad to me. I cant and wont feel any different on this subject. a breeding dog should not be treated any different IMO and The same goes for pets If they are in a sad home then yes rehome them, They deserve better. But People keep getting pets and rehome them for no real reason ,and should not ever own pets. and if a breeder can have 50 females caged because they are retired and go out to get younger females to breed more and more.and keep rehoming the old. Im sorry its not right. I guess I put animals first and to me this is just plain wrong.

[YorkieShadow]

Originally Posted by MeganS

Maddie is a retired breeder. She apperantly had no maternal instinct and only had 1 pup both times she had a litter. Her owner Tracy knew that she'd be better off in a home where she could get more attention, and that's why we have her today. I know that Tracy loved (and still loves) Maddie very, very much. and I believe she proved that by seeing over her own feelings, and doing what was best for Maddie.

Now. When people rehome dogs because they don't like their coloring, size, or they aren't trained I want to hit them across the head. That's no reason to put that kind of stress on a dog. However I also think there are exceptions to this. We used to have a black lab named Shadow who really was the sweetest dog. But he was psychotic or something. he litteraly ate the couch. I was still really young, and my parents didnt have enough attention/energy to care for him. So now he lives on a farm with another dog just like him and a nice lady.

But (sorry I got a bit off topic) yeah. i don't think people should rehome dogs just because they're bigger than they wanted, they dont like their coloring, or something like that.

See I can understand someone rehoming because they feel the dog deserves better and so they rehome it. Thats great. But does she have 50 in cages that once she breed and now they are to old for her needs, then she rehomes them? Prob not. This is what I think is sad. I had a post where I posted I had over 300 rehomes. I rescued these dogs off the streets. cared for them got them well and then rehomed them. So I feel thats different.

[YorkieRose]

Of course breeding dogs should be pets first...and I think most there do treat theirs as pets, then breeding dogs...and there is no need to rehome when you only have a couple.

As to people rehoming a pet because of silly reasons...the reason does not matter to me why you don't want it...you can not force anyone to love a dog they do not want...give it back to me...no questions asked...the dog will no doubt be thrilled to leave them anyway...Yorkies are mind readers, they know when their owners aren't pleased with them...

[Willow]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Of course breeding dogs should be pets first...and I think most there do treat theirs as pets, then breeding dogs...and there is no need to rehome when you only have a couple.

As to people rehoming a pet because of silly reasons...the reason does not matter to me why you don't want it...you can not force anyone to love a dog they do not want...give it back to me...no questions asked...the dog will no doubt be thrilled to leave them anyway...Yorkies are mind readers, they know when their owners aren't pleased with them...

That is why I wouldn't be able to rehome Autumn ever....she was my baby and my pet first. I only have 4 furbabies in my house right now, soon to be five when I get Lexie, and my limit is 6 in the home, so to live by that I would eventually have to do the rehoming too. I don't feel it would be fair for me to have more than 6 because I don't want more than I can give proper care and attention to.

Not saying others with more than 6 don't give proper care or attention...I just know what I could afford and what would work for me so for me and my situation the limit has to be 6.

[Dan & Corinne]

We all want the same thing for a dog to be in a loving and safe environment. I know YorkieShadow has been involved in finding homes for so many dogs and you've brought so much happiness to so many - you are definitely a champion in my book!

[Baby Blessing]

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow

And Im sorry but I have to dieagree with rehoming. If a breeder has to cage their Females because they are retired then yes they need to rehome them, They dont deserve a life in a cage. For all that this Female has done for her breeder, she deserves the best. Breeders who have so many and have no choice but to cage, Well thats just sad to me. I cant and wont feel any different on this subject. a breeding dog should not be treated any different IMO and The same goes for pets If they are in a sad home then yes rehome them, They deserve better. But People keep getting pets and rehome them for no real reason ,and should not ever own pets. and if a breeder can have 50 females caged because they are retired and go out to get younger females to breed more and more.and keep rehoming the old. Im sorry its not right. I guess I put animals first and to me this is just plain wrong.

YorkieShadow this was so very well said, I feel the same way. I also have found it hard to understand why retired females when rehoming are sold with the price that is asked for them. I was also wondering in getting a breeding license if there is a limit to how many dogs a breeder is allowed for breeding? I definately feel there should be. In my opinion it is no life for any dog to live it's life in being caged and crated whether it is with a breeder or someone that has a dog as a pet. Thanks to those breeders that are screening the new owners of their babies so that they go to forever loving homes. Please know what I have posted here is out of love for all dogs, they look to us for care and protection and love, not isolation. What a gift they are to us from the Lord and they should be cared for as he would have us to do so. This is all my opinion.Patti

[JiggityJig]

Frimousse my latest little rescued girl went to 5 homes before mine .

We got our chocolate lab Dixie at age two, and were at LEAST her fourth home. She is the best dog in the WORLD--is marvelously trained, well-behaved and loving, and everyone who meets her just falls in love. We constantly have people asking if they can have her.

Why did her previous homes not turn out? they just weren't able to give her all the love and attention she needed. Mazie was rehomed to us under similar circumstances.

I usually defend rehoming because of the marvelous experiences that WE have had being on the OTHER end of it. And I know that there are times when perfectly lovely people, and perfectly lovely dogs, just do not FIT together. Could they continue to try to struggle to make it work? yes. Would that be the best and the happiest for ALL involved? no.

NOW! That said, would *I* personally be able to rehome an animal?! Never say never, but I'll confess, I really don't understand the emotions and mentality that that requires. We just get far too attached to our pets, and yes, feel OUR responsibility for their care.

Yes, there have been times when SOME rehoming stories here on YT have just made me scratch my head. And yes, a few times I've seen the same person who berated someone ELSE for rehoming, turn around and do the same thing themselves.

But usually, I try not to judge someone else's situation, because I'm not in their shoes. And like YorkieRose sd., ultimately, if that's how they FEEL, rehoming is better for the dog anyway, so it all turns out for the best.

[yougetthesmiles]

I so agree with you, I dont care I would never rehome Lillie!!!!
Now I just rescued a 4 year old, her parents are going through a divorce and the ex husband had her but did not want her and was going to take her to the pound, the mom could not keep her where she was living, so I opened my home to her, but she was so scared and I fell so darn sad for her. But she has seemed to start to adjust, but it's still so darn sad.