I'll help with the reception.:heart to:)

I watched 15 mins. of that Kardashian girls show one day and it seemed like I lost 30 points in IQ before I changed the channel. Looked like 15 mins. of superficiality and ME ME from the 3 girls who were on the screen. They seemed nice on the surface but I was left with "so....."? Didn't get the point of the show except maybe a statement about family togetherness? What do they DO that drives the storyline?

Sure seems like Jenner didn't waste a moment of time grieving or apologizing or anything over the death he caused but went right into his big announcement, a much ballyhooed interview on TV(was the dead woman even mentioned in it?), and then announces a reality show - all within a very few months of causing another human's death.

I've never watched him on TV but from what little I've seen of him in snips of video on other TV shows where he's covered, he seems like a good-hearted guy, hasn't abandoned his first children, seems to love and at least apparently financially supports them and apparently that whole big family while they were young.

But he sure seems to have lost his sensitivity toward others not in his family circle! I know he didn't ever intend to do kill anybody but still, his negligent behavior caused a person to DIE in a car wreck while he walked away and to blast himself into the spotlight within a couple of months of that death rather than show some empathy toward that dead woman and those who loved her by retiring from center stage for a year or so would have shown some empathy and sensitivity. I guess his K stepchildren have changed him!

Seems like the poor lady has been tossed aside while he pursues his weird-looking facial and hair-style changes. For some reason, I think he might become another Michael Jackson - a once hugely talented professional, gifted with amazing abilities, who just began to haunt the office of the plastic surgeon and look weirder and weirder after each visit to the O.R. Plus, he speaks in the 3rd person about himself.

From what I can tell, the K's could all retire and few will miss them. Still, I wish them well and hope they stay together as a family, which is what it's all about.

To be honest, very few people will be the same with a camera in their face.

For some reason, for maybe the majority or at least very many of entertainers/public figures, that seems to be true. And they heartily seem to court that camera and when a news camera isn't present, a selfie will do. Still, just sticking a camera in someone's face doesn't really change their character or basic beliefs. It's the whole public fame issue and money/power associated with it that probably leads to that.

When I'm bored or I can't sleep, I love coming to YT and reading threads like this. :D

Taking Bailey for a walk might be far more entertaing and healthy lol

I think a person has to be bored with his time to watch or read anything about the family.

I watch the show on occasion with my daughters. Gosh, I'm almost afraid to admit that.... :D As far as their show goes, it's just TV. I doubt it is anything like their real lives outside the camera. It is a show produced from many hours of tape to be what the producers want the viewers to see and think. That to me is hardly reality. Do people really take it that seriously?

As far as the family goes, honestly, I think what people see in it is the dialogue between them all is common dialogue between many families (or maybe more so siblings) on some level, only ordinary families wouldn't talk to eachother that way in public much less on TV. So it has the OMG I can't believe they talk to eachother like that shock factor, even though many siblings and friends and some parents do actually have similar dialogue, they'd never admit to. I have heard it with my own girls, and I have heard it between close groups of friends. Sometimes it seems vulgar, incredibly insensitive, borderline hateful, but they actually have very close relationships and it's a dialogue only "they" really understand and to the outside world seems shocking.

Lol, welcome back Shirl!

I couldn't agree more. I can't change the channel fast enough when the mention of these two names come up. Just like one poster said, there's far more important things concerning this country than trash TV.

Thanks Nancy. I remember that you like junk TV. I bet you even watch the so called real housewives. :)

My grandson's wife watches all these programs and believes every word.

I love the real housewives shows, but I think it's because it enables me to understand people better. I've always measured people through my values and if I wouldn't do something, I didn't think others would do it, but now I'm learning there are many different kinds of people in the world. Lol, Yorkietalk teaches me that as well! That said, I still couldn't watch the Kardashians, I'm just a fan of Bruce and anyone who follows their heart and does what they think is best for them, (as long as it doesn't hurt others) no matter what the rest of the world thinks. When you get to sixty, you better start pleasing yourself!

I will admit to watching the Beverly Hills housewives some just so I can see what their houses look like but I can't take that constant arguing. I just heard today that Kim Richards is back in rehab and Paris's Mother (is her name Susan?) might take her place for next season's show.

I think it's Kathy, I'm not sure why she would want to be on this show, I can see the motivations for others, it helps actresses get jobs and helps others sell products and create a line, but why would she want it? I loved little Kim since she was child from her Witch Mountain movies and was so disappointed to see how she turned out. So spoiled and entitled and just plain mean. I remember Shirley Temple was the first child actress that I was aware of and she turned out wonderfully, I don't know why most child actors have such a hard time dealing with real life.

You're right, it is Kathy and I wondered why, with all her wealth she would want to do a reality show period. It's probably not going to happen.