Originally Posted by maxdog (Post 4564983)

He rear ended someone and caused a death. How does he walk away unscathed? It is hard to believe that being a celebrity/having money does not have something to do with it.

Originally Posted by Captainzing (Post 4564339)

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Perhaps, this has been posted before. Maybe, I should have made a poll.

Is anyone else tired of the media force feeding this family down our throats?

Originally Posted by yorkiemini (Post 4565674)

I don't know anything about that family as I don't follow them on TV or otherwise. But I will tell you that when my son, at a very young age, participated in his first Olympics he was in awe of every one he met and very overwhelmed.

He came to me one day and told me about this wonderful man who had sat with him at lunch and was so instrumental in helping my son navigate the EXTREMELY OVERWHELMING (cut throat and political nature) of the whole Olympic thing -- that generous kind person was Bruce Jenner. You have to understand, my son was very young ( probably too young) and really did not know who Jenner was until someone told him - that would have been about 1990.

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 4564364)

The Kardashians can TOTALLY just drive me nuts bc the media is so over saturated with them and they just ride that family name in any / every way they can...which I think sadly epitomizes so much that is wrong today in "celebrity".

I will say though, I completely admire the courage of Caitlyn (formerly Bruce) Jenner for going through her transition transparently and publicly. Some will poo-poo this as just more publicity and/or stunts -- but in this case, we really do need to look past that automatic urge and look at the bigger picture of what is happening here in the public eye.

I believe in fully respecting another's gender identity bc who am I to know better, do better, or judge their experience? Only *they* can know whether or not they "feel" like a man or a woman, or feel they are in the wrong body. I can't even *fathom* the insane confusion and pain one must feel if/when they actually feel they were born into the wrong gender. Can you imagine? I don't know how any of us could imagine it unless we've been through it.

I hope Caitlyn Jenner's journey fosters discussions, encourages more open mindedness, encourages ACCEPTANCE, and in the end....hopefully could even save lives as the suicide rate of transgender people is so terribly high.

And btw, did anyone see the pics of Caitlyn on Vanity Fair and/or the behind the scenes video of the photo shoot??? I mean, WOW. Stunning. She really does look stunning. I hope for the very best for her during this journey/transition and I do hope the transition brings all the hoped for happiness to her life.

Originally Posted by yorkiemini (Post 4565674)

I don't know anything about that family as I don't follow them on TV or otherwise. But I will tell you that when my son, at a very young age, participated in his first Olympics he was in awe of every one he met and very overwhelmed.

He came to me one day and told me about this wonderful man who had sat with him at lunch and was so instrumental in helping my son navigate the EXTREMELY OVERWHELMING (cut throat and political nature) of the whole Olympic thing -- that generous kind person was Bruce Jenner. You have to understand, my son was very young ( probably too young) and really did not know who Jenner was until someone told him - that would have been about 1990.

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4565640)

As I understand it, Bruce Jenner, a 65 y.o. grandfather, caused an elderly widow's death by negligently following her car too closely in his to stop in time, forcing her car into oncoming highway traffic. But I have a question: If he does any prison time, will he be put in the male section of prison, as he was/is still physically male when he killed her and still is today? Can people just announce to the State prison system they are now a different gender or race or their eyes are different colors, etc., than they are or do they have to have some further factual, medical proof?

And if females have to shower in group showers, will he shower with other women even though he apparently still has male genitalia? I know I wouldn't want to strip down and shower with him if I were in the pokey!

Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4565686)

Great story! Is this the same son who is an Air Force pilot? Olympian and pilot? Is he married? :D;):)

I have never seen the show, but I remember being shocked to learn that Bruce Jenner was married to Mama Kardashian and that he was part of this whole reality show thing.