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05-11-2013, 09:44 AM | #1 |
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| What to do when dogs attack I was checking my facebook account today and I came across this link. Cesar Millan posted it and it's very handy. I have not seen aggressive dog's loose when I walk or jog with the dogs but you never know what can happen. http://www.cesarsway.com/dogbehavior...mpaign=5.11.13 And How to Handle a Dog Attack: 10 Steps - wikiHow
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05-11-2013, 09:57 AM | #2 |
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| If a big, powerful dog is holding onto a person or another dog, getting someone to lift directly up on the dog's collar or gather the skin of his back neck up very tight in their hands until it is very tight and taut across the throat and lift straight up for up to 2 minutes until the dog stops breathing can cause them to let go, even a raging pitbull or Rottie or GSD. Then, if someone can grab the back legs of that dog while it is still recovering its breath and hold them up and walk it backwards very fast until they can get it away from the blood and scene of the attack, there is a good chance the dog will leave of its on accord. If it doesn't, prepare to do it all again or go into one of the above self-defense modes. It's so good to post articles about this from time to time. Thank you so much. Nothing as frightening as a huge, zoned-in dog barreling toward you or your dog!!!
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05-11-2013, 09:59 AM | #3 |
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| That is great information, thank you The more information and tips, the better
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05-11-2013, 10:05 AM | #4 |
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| Anny, in America we face a lot of big, powerful, untrained loose dogs when out and about or on our own property they access. Big, powerful dogs are very popular here and being prepared, knowing what to do to save a person or a dog is absolutely vital to us all. We haven't had a thread like this for a while and your posting this can save a life or limb and a lot of pain and suffering.
__________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis |
05-11-2013, 10:16 AM | #5 |
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| I'm glad this can help. I truly did not know that the problem with big and or dangerous dogs was so high in the USA. I have heard about some incidents but hearing about it and actually living it is very different. I haven't met any big and dangerous dogs here. I have met some that seems angry but they are always on the leash. When I used to live on Bonaire you could see a lot of big loosen dogs. When walking or jogging with my mom we were always careful but thank goodness nothing ever happened. I think that being prepared (even though you have never come across a big and or dangerous dog) is a must. You never know what can happen and being prepared can help you. your dog, your kids or even someone in need.
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05-11-2013, 10:20 AM | #6 |
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| Good post My worry is when I walk Rosco I can keep him under control but if a dog came up to us and acted aggressive Rosco gets really aggressive back but he's gotten better the older he gets. |
05-11-2013, 10:24 AM | #7 | |
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I'm working on teaching him not to react that way because he is so small and any other dog can harm him badly
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05-11-2013, 10:26 AM | #8 |
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| Trying to face down a big, hostile and focused-in 110+ lb. dog or even a pair of them is so daunting. We have two that live way down on the end of the block across the alley that sound like lions when they roar and boy, they hit their huge wooden fence with such force and fierceness it moves several inches when you walk your 5 lb. dog past and you realize if those guys ever get loose and zero in, you and your dog better be prepared. One way to prepare is just stay away from that vicinity, which we now do. I also walk with an auto-open umbrella once my 3lb. Yorkie was attacked by a 65 lb. Dalmatian and had to have surgery. Want me to post about how that tool can help on here?
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05-11-2013, 10:27 AM | #9 | |
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05-11-2013, 10:31 AM | #10 |
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| Here is the post I always place on threads like this for anyone who is interested: I walk with a huge black umbrella that self-opens when I push a button. It is a big thing and impressive as it opens! It give me a large appearance to the approaching dog, having that big, wide structure spread all out before me. The thing I found most helpful to me about the open umbrella is the distance it will keep a troublesome dog away from our immediate vicinity. I have yet to have one ever get even remotely close to me and my Yorkie with the trusty brolly fully employed. They either go the other way immediately(99% of the time), stand their ground if the owner is making them or give you a very very wide berth. They don't get close enough to or try to keep an aggressive attitude when they hear the umbrella whoosh open and see that imposing shape blossom open before their eyes. It is very disconcerting to any dog. It is a good diffuser of tense situations but should it not be, a sturdy or actual defensive umbrellas can serve as a real weapon should you actually run into a dog who is bent on attacking. When my little 3 lb. Yorkie, Jilly, was attacked by a 65 lb. Dalmatian on a neighborhood walk, my simple wooden walking stick(pre-umbrella) was how I saved her life and got her free of the big dog's jaws. It was after that attack that I decided to use a button-operated umbrella for future walks as a deterrent - even if I have no dog with me. But the role an open umbrella best serves is just a dissolver of bad attitudes. Most approaching dogs aren't really bad, they just are inquisitive, excited and out of control and this tool helps them to settle down rather quickly and become serious about how they can best stay well clear of you, your dog and your umbrella. And it gives you a wonderful sense of security, which a dog can read from quite far off. Train your dog to sit/stay when you open the umbrella so that in an emergency situation, your dog will not be running around at your feet or shying away from the umbrella opening, thus adding to the stress of the moment. .
__________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis |
05-11-2013, 10:36 AM | #11 |
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| That is also a great tip, thank you for that Rufus is very sensitive to motions so I'll definitely have to train him and let him get used to the umbrella first. When a dog approaches you with bad intentions, you open the umbrella and leave it between you and the dog?
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05-11-2013, 10:38 AM | #12 |
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| And until the dog backs down? Is it better to stay still as well?
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05-11-2013, 12:08 PM | #13 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | I do have some suggestions and very important ones, as a breeder and owner of a large guard and protect breed. First is DO not RUN and DO NOT Scream. Both actions are or can be inflammatory to the "attacking" dog. And as a sidenote you will never outrun an attacking dog. As hard as it may be Stand your ground. ANd stand TALL. Cross your arms up high on your chest - with hands into a fisted position. Here is when opening up an umbrella - or if you have a walking stick is effectively used. Turn slightly sideways. Using a deep authoritative voice you can say BAD DOG. Never Good Boy!!!! Also quickly try the STOP command. Some dogs will have been trained to this command. If the dog pauses in its rush - turn slowly slightly more sideways. Ignore the dog, and that can be very hard to do. Hopefully this will defuse the "attack" and you can go on your shaken way.
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05-11-2013, 12:09 PM | #14 |
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| Yes, when you see a dog ears come up, eyes lock on your dog or you, tail come up or sometimes down and out, and wagging slowly back and forth or frozen in place, begin to be aware he's checking you out. Calm your dog so he doesn't lunge ahead or invite an attack by his behavior however you must but usually going ahead and whooshing open the umbrella at this point and just staying in place, slightly averting your eyes but keeping the umbrella between you, your dog and that oncoming dog until he turns away or passes by is wisest. If he keeps coming at you and your dog isn't part of the problem - not growling or bouncing around - then you have a big problem as that dog is not afraid of that umbrella! Here is where some will slowly start to walk toward the dog, rolling the umbrella back and forth, making themselves as big as possible and intent on backing him down. You have to know dogs very well and have handled a lot of big ones to pull this off because he will smell any fear and sense purpose and total confidence. Others say back away with the umbrella in place but don't turn your back on him until you are safely away. Depends on you, your own dog, the situation and what you know of your ability to handle a possibly vicious dog. Ninety-nine percent of dogs will just back off when they see that big umbrella blossom open before their eyes - unsure of what just happened - and go their way. If he keeps coming, prepare to deal with him and go ahead and call 911 with FastDial. Better to be safe and you can always cancel the call if something does intervene to stop the attack at the last moment. BTW, if you have a deterrent spray with you and the wind swirls the wrong way at the last moment before using it, you could render yourself helpless so strong consider that, too. After Jilly's attack, I never leave home to walk my dog without the umbrella and now, a cell phone, too.
__________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis |
05-11-2013, 01:12 PM | #15 |
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| Such great information. I never feared dog attacks until I got Wallee. Lucky for me Pit bulls Are very rare around here. Even Ceasar Milan was not allowed to bring his Pit to Canada. Ppl who own them must muzzle them when they walk them and breeding is against the law. Not that I personally dislike the breed as I have a friend who has a very loveable Pit. It's just that so many ppl who get them get then for the wrong reasons and turn their poor dogs into something mean. I am just saying it cause it is one less breed I have to watch out for. I am amazed at how many stupid ppl walk big powerful dogs in retractable leashes as well. Might as well walk off leash for all the control they have. None the less, I am thankful for this great information.! |
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