What Just Happened In Boston??????? Reports Now Say There Are Deaths!!!!

[capt_noonie]

Have you watched the video of the aunt? As soon as she said "I don't trust the FBI" all the journalists started madly scribbling in their notebooks. Like, this is gonna be a great soundbite!

I don't trust the government either folks. People say if you don't do anything wrong, there's nothing to be afraid of. Not true. What if you were related to these young men? And you KNEW them and knew them not to be radicals and to see this on the news? Wouldn't you WANT hard proof? I thought this country was innocent until proven guilty? But SO many innocent people are sentenced and put behind bars or accepting plea deals bc the DA's and such are scaring them to do so.

And then there's the argument of guilty people going free. What can we do?

[brezofleur]

Teen stunned at portrayal as bombing suspect

The father is exactly right. This boy is innocent, yet the media jumped on his images: "Right now, we are not secure," he said. "So, the news (media), when they put something, they should be sure about the information."

I have no doubt his race played a factor. The public demands immediate results so the media grasps at straws.

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by brezofleur

I really hope this is the right guy and not just someone they're putting blame on because of the public's demand for fast, immediate results. That happens way too often than is really known.

And if it is the right guy, I hope he falls HARD.

I've read reports that Jeff Bauman, the young man who had his legs blown off and was photographed being wheeled away from blast scene, identified the younger bomber. According to Bauman's brother, the younger bomber set the bag down right in front of Jeff and looked him in the eye.

I doubt the Tsamaev brothers conceived or carried out this plan on their own.

[roseslevi]

Originally Posted by Maximo

I've read reports that Jeff Bauman, the young man who had his legs blown off and was photographed being wheeled away from blast scene, identified the younger bomber. According to Bauman's brother, the younger bomber set the bag down right in front of Jeff and looked him in the eye.

I doubt the Tsamaev brothers conceived or carried out this plan on their own.

We saw the video tapes of both brothers placing the bombs next to the most injured(or worse) victims. We heard the testimonies of the injured marathon runners interviewed in the hospital pointing out the brothers. There was also the "shootout" in which the policeman was shot in cold blood in the back of the head by the brothers. It is pretty hard not to rush to judgement when the evidence is stacked high against them. The younger brother"white hat" also returned gunfire at the officers last night as well. Innocent people don't shoot at police officers. There are others invoved as well, three more were arrested last night in New Bedford, Mass....close by the college "white hat" was attending. Agree with you Maximo.

[brezofleur]

I don't believe in victim bashing, and I am NOT saying that this is the case here, but after years of research in tertiary, I cannot say I believe something just because a witness says so. However, the poor guy with his legs looking at the guy dead-on is pretty damning.

What bothers me is that when a city is in lockdown where you're supposed to stay inside and not look out the windows, who knows what's really going on?? ESPECIALLY after a cop gets killed.

[yorkietalkjilly]

This isn't over. We really need to know what happened to turn these two young men into terrorists. But from the sound of his father, mother and aunt, they are highly suspicious, paranoid and fodder for extremist movements. No doubt it's largely beliefs grown from their home country and its many troubles and strifes. But it's pretty disturbing that there are people living here that feel this way about America, the American justice system and seem so hostile to it. I don't understand but hopefully some study of what went wrong can give us some skills and methods for intervening before more young people like these brothers are created and waiting with bombs at a large celebration of Americans engaging in things we love like sporting events, flying to a vacation destination or even just going to work via mass transit.

In spite of it all, America will prevail and grow stronger and we'll love her more. I'm so proud of us.

[JANICE C]

This is all very Sad! The whole ordeal of all this killing 5 people thats including one of the suspects and people young and old missing limbs over 180 hurt some still in serious condition. These two young men were suspects and wanted for questioning. If I was wanted for questioning, my picture was all over the news and I didn't do anything I would turn myself in. How many people were involed in this bombing, who are these people, and WHY? Hopefully we will find the answers to these questions plus more and justice will be served.

[brezofleur]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

This isn't over. We really need to know what happened to turn these two young men into terrorists. But from the sound of his father, mother and aunt, they are highly suspicious, paranoid and fodder for extremist movements. No doubt it's largely beliefs grown from their home country and its many troubles and strifes. But it's pretty disturbing that there are people living here that feel this way about America, the American justice system and seem so hostile to it. I don't understand but hopefully some study of what went wrong can give us some skills and methods for intervening before more young people like these brothers are created and waiting with bombs at a large celebration of Americans engaging in things we love like sporting events, flying to a vacation destination or even just going to work via mass transit.

In spite of it all, America will prevail and grow stronger and we'll love her more. I'm so proud of us.

Yes! It's extremely scary and makes me feel so naive.

[Islandloverr]

This story causes so many mixed emotions for me. Friday Morning when they 1st released the photos of the two "middle eastern" boys (that were persons of interest at the time) I read an article about the incident and they were showing pictures of other pedestrians with large "suspicious backpacks". But it was a screenshot of a post (i'm assuming from a forum) by someone Anonymous, and it's still messing with me.

Pretty much the Poster was saying that they worked for some type of secret service, and how this was all staged. He continued on to say how they were going to pin this whole thing on : "...A white male in his early twenties..." Mind you this was WAY BEFORE the media released the pictures of the two real suspects. He said the casualties were real but the events were staged. Later that night after hearing it was two white males as the suspects I started to discredit how accurate the poster was, UNTIL I heard about how THE OLDER brother is now dead, and so now the sole suspect is the younger brother, or as the poster said " a white male in his early twenties" (19 to be specific).


Now to address the comment about " if you are innocent why not turn yourself in?.....why are you carrying a gun?...and why did you kill that officer?" Well think about it like this.... IF you were innocent and your face is PLASTERED ALL OVER AMERICA as a murderer and a terrorist....would you not be scared?? And now that there are angry people out there that want to harm you...would you not carry a gun also?? And I'm a "see to believe it" type of girl...there were no other witnesses to the officer getting shot. so unless they have that on video, I remain to be skeptical.

And I don't know about the rest of you but if I was ACCUSED of doing all these things KNOWING I didn't do it...i wouldn't be so fast to turn myself in. why would I?... So they can put me in jail for life for something I didn't do...or to EVEN sentenced me to death? Nope not me. And maybe the older brother had a "they'll never take me alive to jail for something I didn't do attitude" IDK. I'm just confused.

Now hearing about this witness watching the younger brother put the bag down...is making me more suspicious. MAYBE it's just a New Yorker thing, but ever since 911 we don't play around with things like that. There's a campaign on subway ads that say " If you see something suspicious, report it"...and it shows a black duffle bag alone under a seat.
So this witness WATCHED the brother put the bag down and leave, but never tapped him and said "hey you left your bag!"?? or when he seen the bag was left there without it's owner...he didn't seek out a officer to report it?? Sounds mighty strange to me....

I don't want anyone to think that I'm DEFENDING these boys because thats the last thing I want to do. I just feel that there are alot of strange things surrounding this incident.

And I don't think It's "disgusting" for this woman not to trust the Government...because trust me there are some corrupt things going on up there, weather you believe it or not. And as a "younger" citizen growing up....we see it more. But I feel that their Mother has a RIGHT to question the government. SHE RAISED them so weather her beliefs are right or wrong...she can believe what she wants because no one has been around those boys more than her.


Let Animal control come and take your precious furbaby away and say that they ripped some mans head off....would you believe everything they told you?? LoL.

[Islandloverr]

All In all I'm heartbroken for those families that were affected. I pray that the injured have a speedy recovery and find a way to cope with their life altering experience. And I pray for the families who are mourning.

If this boy is truly guilty I pray for mercy and for forgiveness. If not, I hope the truth comes out.

[OwnedByJezebel]

Originally Posted by Islandloverr

This story causes so many mixed emotions for me. Friday Morning when they 1st released the photos of the two "middle eastern" boys (that were persons of interest at the time) I read an article about the incident and they were showing pictures of other pedestrians with large "suspicious backpacks". But it was a screenshot of a post (i'm assuming from a forum) by someone Anonymous, and it's still messing with me.

Pretty much the Poster was saying that they worked for some type of secret service, and how this was all staged. He continued on to say how they were going to pin this whole thing on : "...A white male in his early twenties..." Mind you this was WAY BEFORE the media released the pictures of the two real suspects. He said the casualties were real but the events were staged. Later that night after hearing it was two white males as the suspects I started to discredit how accurate the poster was, UNTIL I heard about how THE OLDER brother is now dead, and so now the sole suspect is the younger brother, or as the poster said " a white male in his early twenties" (19 to be specific).


Now to address the comment about " if you are innocent why not turn yourself in?.....why are you carrying a gun?...and why did you kill that officer?" Well think about it like this.... IF you were innocent and your face is PLASTERED ALL OVER AMERICA as a murderer and a terrorist....would you not be scared?? And now that there are angry people out there that want to harm you...would you not carry a gun also?? And I'm a "see to believe it" type of girl...there were no other witnesses to the officer getting shot. so unless they have that on video, I remain to be skeptical.

I think the forum post you are talking about came from a compilation of pictures and a post compiled by 4chan, the internet hackers group. It can be found here, the pictures as well as the internet post, which you can see if you scroll down. It's easy to find because, well, it's text instead of pictures.

4chan ThinkTank - Imgur

The poster said that it would all be used to try and further restrict materials to make ammo. Well, they didn't find anything like that (that we know of) in his apartment. They did find more crudely made explosives, I think.

Re what would you do if you were wrongly named the suspect: When the FBI (before they released the pictures of the two brothers) gave descriptions of two suspects, a lot of people that had been looking at the 4chan pics and they thought that 2 of the guys shown at the link were the bombers. You can find them easily, they are circled. One even had a white hat, although it was worn the regular way and not on backwards as described by the FBI. Both of these guys immediately contacted police and went into to talk to them, and they were quickly cleared. It turned out that they were a running coach and a high school long-distance runner.

Can I believe that someone would be wrongly fingered and run because of it? Absolutely. But I can't believe they would have guns, IED's (another pressure cooker), and homemade grenades with them when they tried to run? No.

And I cannot get the past the eye-witness account of Jeff Bauman, the guy that had both of his legs blown off. When he first woke up in the hospital, the first thing he asked for was pen and paper so that he could write down what he saw. He described what the older brother was wearing as he dropped the bag at his feet. I doubt he would allow his legs to be blown off in order to be in on some sort of a conspiracy to finger an innocent person.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Staged?????? What in the world?????? WHY would this country feverishly work to conspire to do this, involving a such a huge number of people you couldn't even begin to count them all, asking them to dump their principles and beliefs and risk everything from their careers to prison to the death penalty, make and plant bombs, kill people outright and put all of those seriously wounded people on total and permanent disability for life, rock the foundations of this country and cost tax-payers tens of millions of dollars for lawsuit settlements, death benefits, workmens' compensation injuries involved in the whole project, lifelong disability payments for the victims and other injuries, all of the law-enforcement costs, the legal and court costs, the planning and time to interview needed conspirators and test them for fidelity to the plan, and manage to bring it all off in front of a host of CCTV and digital cameras - all to conspire against two brothers living in Watertown, Mass.? Why?

[Islandloverr]

I hope I didn't come off as that crazy person who thinks everything is a conspiracy. Lol. I was just saying somethings didn't seem right. Trust me I used to be one of those people whenever I heard conspiracy theories I would just roll my eyes and brush them off. But as I've gotten older I've seen so many unjust and down right outrageous things happen to innocent citizens. And I'm supposed to just listen to everything that is being TOLD to me??

I can't. And that fact that some of you think the Government...or whoever the hell is running things can't be or hasn't ever displayed questionable actions is quite disturbing.

I mean even police officers have BLATANTLY framed people, killed people, or beat innocent citizen without any real reason besides them just wanting to or they were covering up their own a**es and guess what? They STILL got away scott free.

So is it really impossible to believe that people in high places with endless connections could ever have another agenda all for the sake of what they believed in?

To be quite frank...I've had this conversation multiple times this week and I'm tired of wracking my brain over the unknown. Conspiracy or not....I wish it never happened.


Honestly I shouldn't be putting too much energy in these situations because these incidents have been happening back to back. I don't even watch the news much because all that ever shows is death, pain, and struggle. It's quite discouraging and my mind and heart cant take to hear anymore: hit and runs, or bombings or shootings. And i'm one of those firm believers that believe we're in the ending days, corruption, chaos, plagues, extreme natural disasters, falling economies...It's all coming to pass and all I can do pray.

And because of this I'm not as naive as I used to be, I don't believe everything I hear. ESPECIALLY after the KONY 2012 campaign, I learned my lesson not to be so quick to jump on a bandwagon without doing my own research.

[chachi]

If it were staged why would they be carrying a pressure cooker bomb that they threw out at the police during the chase that thankfully didnt go off

[chachi]

Also why would they tell the guy they car jacked they were responsible for the bombings the police have alot of evidence they did it