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yorkietalkjilly 12-14-2012 01:02 PM
Killing your own mother or father or both and killing children, teachers...............hard to comprehend mental illness or evil that profound.

MishyMish 12-14-2012 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Fatalivy (Post 4078329)
I wish there was more control over who gets their hands on guns.
It's not as simple as making tougher gun laws. If someone wants to harm someone or a group of people, they will do it with or without a gun.

The underlining problems need to be addressed. You take away someone's hope and you take away their will to live. Life becomes meaningless.

Fatalivy 12-14-2012 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MishyMish (Post 4078517)
It's not as simple as making tougher gun laws. If someone wants to harm someone or a group of people, they will do it with or without a gun.

The underlining problems need to be addressed. You take away someone's hope and you take away their will to live. Life becomes meaningless.

Agreed. Mental illness needs to be taken more seriously, identified and addressed.

celstu1 12-14-2012 01:13 PM
I can't keep up with the news w/o a TV... the internet does not update as fast! Thanks for the details.

GuinnessStout 12-14-2012 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MishyMish (Post 4078517)
It's not as simple as making tougher gun laws. If someone wants to harm someone or a group of people, they will do it with or without a gun.

The underlining problems need to be addressed. You take away someone's hope and you take away their will to live. Life becomes meaningless.
This happen today too... No guns
AFP: Man stabs 22 children at China primary school

yorkietalkjilly 12-14-2012 01:25 PM
Tougher gun laws will just drive the desperate underground as dope, and other things that are against the law are. Cocaine is against the law and marijuana mostly yet I know that most people can get it fairly easily and no doubt guns will be the same. The person ill or evil enough to do something like this will be able to secure all the weapons he wants via other routes than a gun store. With the internet, I don't see how we can prevent people from buying guns from wherever they want.

celstu1 12-14-2012 01:25 PM
I did see that, how horrible! WTH is up with sick twisted people... Im at a loss. Do you think any of this may stem from the 'end of the world' thing? people going crazy?

MishyMish 12-14-2012 01:49 PM
Mental illness is not always the cause. People rush to conclud its a mental illness. Sane people do bad things, just like those with mental issues do bad things too. Just because the end reult of a bad decision is horrific, doesnt negate that the person was sane.

Fatalivy 12-14-2012 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MishyMish (Post 4078541)
Mental illness is not always the cause. People rush to conclud its a mental illness. Sane people do bad things, just like those with mental issues do bad things too. Just because the end reult of a bad decision is horrific, doesnt negate that the person was sane.
There is nothing sane about doing bad things. So yes, at the moment, it is mental. IMO

yorkietalkjilly 12-14-2012 02:23 PM
Sounds like the shooter was autistic with Asperger's, OCD, PD.

horsnaround 12-14-2012 02:29 PM
So very very sad. Why do people have to take others? Sending prayers to all the families

gemy 12-14-2012 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4078554)
Sounds like the shooter was autistic with Asperger's, OCD, PD.
Early time yet.... Not much real info coming out yet .... and of course not what a huge crime scene to investigate!

I just hope the dang media leaves the families alone!!!

Fatalivy 12-14-2012 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 4078562)
Early time yet.... Not much real info coming out yet .... and of course not what a huge crime scene to investigate!

I just hope the dang media leaves the families alone!!!


I hope they do, too. They deserve that much after dealing with this.

MishyMish 12-14-2012 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Fatalivy (Post 4078544)
There is nothing sane about doing bad things. So yes, at the moment, it is mental. IMO
So you have never did anything bad? I doubt that... Everything bad you have ever done was the effect of a mental illness? People need to take responsibility for their actions and stop copping out or blaming mental illness.

Fatalivy 12-14-2012 02:40 PM
The latest I'm seeing is that the shooter's mother was found dead in their home, not at the school. Not sure why he then, went to the school.


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