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08-12-2011, 12:37 PM | #16 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | I kind of think everyone is in too much denial including pit bull owners. Pit bulls are still a very popular dog in the dog fighting world, and sometimes I wonder if the dogs involved in attacks have had any involvement in that.
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08-12-2011, 12:42 PM | #17 |
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| Everyone uses the "slippery slope" argument about pitbulls and where you draw the line. I would draw it at the owner doing real time!
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08-12-2011, 01:09 PM | #18 |
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| Oh gosh; that is such a horrible story. I'm no fan of pitbulls; I recognize that I physically could not handle one and, therefore, would never try. They are so powerful and owned by all the wrong people. Why was the one dog not neutered? They are not given the training and exercise that a dog like that requires. I do think something needs to be done; but I don't know what. Whenever I think they should be banned; I think to Cesar Milan's Daddy and how sweet he was. I'm not sure if he was a pitbull or an American Staffordshire . or what the difference is. I just know too many people are being hurt by a dog that a lot of folks just cannot control. This poor woman and her unborn child. Horrific.
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08-12-2011, 01:33 PM | #19 | |
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08-12-2011, 01:41 PM | #20 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | I've read that unneutered dogs are more aggressive than neutered dogs. However, dog fighting enthusiasts are really behind some of the anti-neutering campaigns.
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08-12-2011, 02:18 PM | #21 | |
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Just yesterday I and my breeder friend took 3 un-neutered males swimming. There was some jostling for place; and the youngum 18mths old, once he got too "enthusiastic" with Magic, I put Magic away. The point is the "owner" needs to be vigilant all the time. I read the body dynamics of the young male, and decided that was enough Magic got put back into the car. Would something have happened? Maybe yes, maybe no, but believe you me I would never risk it; if I had some forewarning. Most of "our " bad experiences come from neutered males/females trying to dominate Magic. He won't be dominated. And from clueless owners, and dogs that are not trained. I don't know what is going on with this "pitbull" mutt/mix, there is no universally accepted breed definition of pitbull. But I do know they get reported upon, time and time again. Any dog including my dog, if he attacks a family member, quite simply needs to be put down. To kill a family member? What gives there? That is beyond the pale.
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08-12-2011, 02:30 PM | #22 | |
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08-12-2011, 02:40 PM | #23 | |
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08-12-2011, 02:45 PM | #24 |
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| How sad, tragic and awful these stories are. I love dogs and this breaks my heart. I don't have the answer either. Do we write a new law and enforce it ? Who pays for it ? Do we include all bull dog types ? Pitbull is not a breed, but a description, like the hated tea cup word. And who decides which dogs go on the dangerous list ? Do we let politicians who may know nothing about dogs, draft the laws ? Do we create a dog profile based only on physical appearances ? Do we toss in weight limits, bite size , containment laws like required for wild animals ? We know the debate is endless. Just like guns, the bad guys get them too. People who obey the law will follow the rules, pay a special licence fees or what ever is needed. But the bad guys will still breed, sell and have dangerous dogs. |
08-12-2011, 03:00 PM | #26 | |
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08-12-2011, 03:01 PM | #27 |
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| I do think something needs to be done but Im not sure what. I wouid hate to see banning of a breed because it could be any breed next. It just seems a dog as powerful as this should only be with an owner thats going to put them through extensive training. So there should be some requirements for ownership.
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08-12-2011, 03:05 PM | #28 | |
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08-12-2011, 03:10 PM | #29 | |
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This is my experience so far. Un neutered or for that matter neutered females in the BRT's are more often likely to get more aggressive to dogs as they age. And females once fighting will likely try to fight to the death, versus the male studs. But I still don't like the automatic assumption that all the behavioural woes of dogs be they female or male is put at the foot of un-neutered animals.
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08-12-2011, 05:05 PM | #30 | |
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