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kval07 · 08-18-2010, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bribunny

Thanks!! Maybe I am overreacting a bit. My hormones are flying these days!!

No, you aren't overreacting. This site has some very judgemental and hideously rude people on it. All forums online have rude people, but some of the comments I've seen here are over the line, especially for people asking for advice. There are extremely nice people as well, don't get me wrong. But it is those unmoderated bad seeds that can color your opinion of the place...

BamaFan121s · 08-18-2010, 05:44 AM

bribunny--I am very sorry that someone's comments made you feel bad, especially when you were undobtedly already worried about your little one.

Generally speaking, when people complain about not liking the 'way things are' on YT, I always wonder "if you hate it so much, why are you still here?" Presumably because your positive experiences outweigh the negative. Otherwise, it would just be silly to stick around, right?
I always just assumed that was the case with ANY internet site/forum. With a large site such as this, naturally there will be answers and beliefs from one end of the spectrum to the other. I see frequent post here that really irritate me, and I've certainly had my fair share that ruffled feathers as well.
Not everyone is going to agree with you 100% of the time and not everyone is going to phrase their responses the way you think they should. So, you can look past what you disagree with and concentrate on the positive, you can dwell on it to the point of insanity, or you move on. Expecting everyone to change until there is overall harmony certainly isn't going to happen.

shodanusmc · 08-18-2010, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kval07

No, you aren't overreacting. This site has some very judgemental and hideously rude people on it. All forums online have rude people, but some of the comments I've seen here are over the line, especially for people asking for advice. There are extremely nice people as well, don't get me wrong. But it is those unmoderated bad seeds that can color your opinion of the place...

Hideously? I read the thread, and I dod not read a rude comment. Sure, perhaps it could have been worded better, but that lady took the time to answer the qyestion and offer another opinion. Right or wrong, let's not vlow this out of the water. We Vaccine Max, to be safe, and we worry about the reaction. She has had a few over the years. It is our decision. I know, I am rude.

kval07 · 08-18-2010, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by shodanusmc

Hideously? I read the thread, and I dod not read a rude comment. Sure, perhaps it could have been worded better, but that lady took the time to answer the qyestion and offer another opinion. Right or wrong, let's not vlow this out of the water. We Vaccine Max, to be safe, and we worry about the reaction. She has had a few over the years. It is our decision. I know, I am rude.

I didn't read that thread. I don't even know what thread to which the OP refers. I am referring to things I have seen in the past. But thanks for proving my point!

Mitzis Mom · 08-18-2010, 06:07 AM

I only can say: "Wlcome to the club!" I guess most of the active members here have been bashed some way or another and it made me leave the forum for almost 2 years. Well... I'm back and learned to just pick the good comments and leave the bad ones like you do with apples...

BamaFan121s · 08-18-2010, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitzis Mom

pick the good comments and leave the bad ones like you do with apples...

LOL...my grandmother always told me that the bad apples make the sweetest pie.

bribunny · 08-18-2010, 06:25 AM

Thanks everyone. This isn't a debate on whether the comment in question was rude or not. I understand everyone is titled to their opinion and you can fully express that. But, in my case everything had already been done and the comment gave little information for the future, and more anger against the decision I already made. That being said, I understand that when you post here you have to take things being negative.

Like I said, I could be overreacting. I'm not here for sympathy, I just wanted to make it aware that we can express opinions without judging or making harmful comments to others.

adrianne · 08-18-2010, 06:27 AM

For all of you all I am saying is I can really see her point in getting a bashing!!!! And what you all have to remember is
That you also had to get your information from somewhere be it here or somewhere else I also said if you would have read it
Properly is that for the people who do Answer your questions you can learn a lot, I have Never been rude to anyone on this site ever however when I post about my new babies being born I don't expect a bashing either, it is a joyous time for especially as my new grand daughter was born on
Monday also, I just wonder why people here can't be nice, well I do apologise about my comment it was uncalled for, I'm just sick of all the new people getting slated all they want is a bit of advice , that is not too much to ask for if you ask me , please. Remember breeders you were not born with your knowledge you have to learn like everyone else so
If you don't want to give it give us all a break and don't reply at all. I would much rather have no replies to my posts than have someone be ignorant and uncaring I thought when I first joined here it would be a nice place to be getting advice and and general chat about yorkies I was wrong that's why I rarely post anymore and this week was the first in months and I only did because I wanted to share my joy of maggie having her 2 girls but just as usual there's always 1 or 2 who try to put the dampeners on it, well my girls are doing great 2 weeks old and half a kilo each if I have offended anyone about dressing up their dogs well I am sorry what you do to your dogs is your business

Marilize · 08-18-2010, 06:28 AM

I've been a member here for a long time and I've definitely seen an increase in the bluntness of some comments. I think this comes mostly from the Breeding section, where I've been spending a lot of time for the last year or so. The reason for the hostility in the breeding section is the reckless and uneducated breeding of Yorkies with no consequence for their health and the futures of the puppies and I completely understand that!
I mean, the reputable breeders try to help wherever they can, but they get tired of telling people the same thing over and over again. And they get angry when some abuses their dogs. Rightfully so!

If you are angry, you may have the right to be angry. But that never gives you the right to be cruel!

cally930 · 08-18-2010, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by chattiesmom

I have been a member for over 6 years. In the earlier days when everyone "knew" everyone, it was a kinder, gentler place. We reminded each other to be kind and it worked most of the time.

Since YT has grown to over 60,000 members it has changed. I honestly believe that the vast majority of members here are caring, kind people who aviod being hateful or hurtful. It is sad that some forget that although you have the right to say something, it may not be the right thing to say. We all have right to free speech, but with that right comes the responsibility of how our free speech affects others.

We are members of YT because we are passionate about our Yorkies - we all need to temper that passion with compassion.

OMG!!! Beautifully said. I just want to hug you.

BamaFan121s · 08-18-2010, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by adrianne

I have Never been rude to anyone on this site I do apologise about my comment it was uncalled for

Kind of contradictory, no? LOL...if you've never been rude, then what are you apologizing for. I didn't really think you *meant* to be malicious or insulting with your comment. I figured it was just one of those things said 'in the heat of the moment.'

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Originally Posted by adrianne

Remember breeders you were not born with your knowledge you have to learn like everyone else

Ah, but that's just the thing. You are exactly right, EVERYONE has to learn somewhere. The difference is how you start: Do you start by researching, learning all you can and working with a mentor BEFORE you start breeding? Or do you jump in blind, without a clue what you are doing and try to pick it up as you go?
I have NEVER, here on YT or elsewhere EVER seen anything but support when someone starts their journey as a breeder by adequately preparing themselves FIRST. It's the latter of the two--those who breed without prior preparation, thus putting their dogs at risk, that generally receive criticism.

Honestly, I went back and read your first thread where your very small, young female and male had 4 'accidental' ties. After being here for a year, and learning more about the breed in the process, do you not understand WHY people were so concerned given the situation?

cally930 · 08-18-2010, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kval07

I didn't read that thread. I don't even know what thread to which the OP refers. I am referring to things I have seen in the past. But thanks for proving my point!

Ahahahahaha!!!!

shodanusmc · 08-18-2010, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by kval07

I didn't read that thread. I don't even know what thread to which the OP refers. I am referring to things I have seen in the past. But thanks for proving my point!

You are very welcome. Have a great day, and thanks so much for proving your own point!

shodanusmc · 08-18-2010, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitzis Mom

I only can say: "Wlcome to the club!" I guess most of the active members here have been bashed some way or another and it made me leave the forum for almost 2 years. Well... I'm back and learned to just pick the good comments and leave the bad ones like you do with apples...

Welcome back. I agree with you. It is a forum. Some great people and some great info.

lil fu fu girl · 08-18-2010, 06:54 AM

I would not let it bother me...not one bit. People here sometimes get very passionate about their opinions, and sometimes come on like a freight train. They might not realize how they are coming across.... or they might.

Either way, each and everyone of us has been sideswiped, broad-sided, and smacked so many times by obtrusive comments such that if we were cars,,, well ,,,we would probably look like a 1978 Ford Pinto!

The secret is to just extract the information that you need, and leave the "crumbs" (lol) to fall where they may.

Ignorance and naivete can only be changed through education, not through rudeness and degradation. I would like to think that all humans will one day realize this.

08-18-2010, 05:44 AM	#17
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	bribunny--I am very sorry that someone's comments made you feel bad, especially when you were undobtedly already worried about your little one. Generally speaking, when people complain about not liking the 'way things are' on YT, I always wonder "if you hate it so much, why are you still here?" Presumably because your positive experiences outweigh the negative. Otherwise, it would just be silly to stick around, right? I always just assumed that was the case with ANY internet site/forum. With a large site such as this, naturally there will be answers and beliefs from one end of the spectrum to the other. I see frequent post here that really irritate me, and I've certainly had my fair share that ruffled feathers as well. Not everyone is going to agree with you 100% of the time and not everyone is going to phrase their responses the way you think they should. So, you can look past what you disagree with and concentrate on the positive, you can dwell on it to the point of insanity, or you move on. Expecting everyone to change until there is overall harmony certainly isn't going to happen. Last edited by BamaFan121s; 08-18-2010 at 05:45 AM.

08-18-2010, 06:25 AM	#22
bribunny YT Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: The South Posts: 272	Thanks everyone. This isn't a debate on whether the comment in question was rude or not. I understand everyone is titled to their opinion and you can fully express that. But, in my case everything had already been done and the comment gave little information for the future, and more anger against the decision I already made. That being said, I understand that when you post here you have to take things being negative. Like I said, I could be overreacting. I'm not here for sympathy, I just wanted to make it aware that we can express opinions without judging or making harmful comments to others. __________________ Mommy to Bri

08-18-2010, 06:28 AM	#24
Marilize YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cape town, South Africa Posts: 703	I've been a member here for a long time and I've definitely seen an increase in the bluntness of some comments. I think this comes mostly from the Breeding section, where I've been spending a lot of time for the last year or so. The reason for the hostility in the breeding section is the reckless and uneducated breeding of Yorkies with no consequence for their health and the futures of the puppies and I completely understand that! I mean, the reputable breeders try to help wherever they can, but they get tired of telling people the same thing over and over again. And they get angry when some abuses their dogs. Rightfully so! If you are angry, you may have the right to be angry. But that never gives you the right to be cruel! __________________ Cash & Orio RIP Beautiful Joni

08-18-2010, 06:07 AM	#20
Mitzis Mom No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,837	I only can say: "Wlcome to the club!" I guess most of the active members here have been bashed some way or another and it made me leave the forum for almost 2 years. Well... I'm back and learned to just pick the good comments and leave the bad ones like you do with apples...

08-18-2010, 06:27 AM	#23
adrianne Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: newtownabbey, co, antrim, northern ireland Posts: 71	For all of you all I am saying is I can really see her point in getting a bashing!!!! And what you all have to remember is That you also had to get your information from somewhere be it here or somewhere else I also said if you would have read it Properly is that for the people who do Answer your questions you can learn a lot, I have Never been rude to anyone on this site ever however when I post about my new babies being born I don't expect a bashing either, it is a joyous time for especially as my new grand daughter was born on Monday also, I just wonder why people here can't be nice, well I do apologise about my comment it was uncalled for, I'm just sick of all the new people getting slated all they want is a bit of advice , that is not too much to ask for if you ask me , please. Remember breeders you were not born with your knowledge you have to learn like everyone else so If you don't want to give it give us all a break and don't reply at all. I would much rather have no replies to my posts than have someone be ignorant and uncaring I thought when I first joined here it would be a nice place to be getting advice and and general chat about yorkies I was wrong that's why I rarely post anymore and this week was the first in months and I only did because I wanted to share my joy of maggie having her 2 girls but just as usual there's always 1 or 2 who try to put the dampeners on it, well my girls are doing great 2 weeks old and half a kilo each if I have offended anyone about dressing up their dogs well I am sorry what you do to your dogs is your business

08-18-2010, 06:54 AM	#30
lil fu fu girl No Longer a Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,410	I would not let it bother me...not one bit. People here sometimes get very passionate about their opinions, and sometimes come on like a freight train. They might not realize how they are coming across.... or they might. Either way, each and everyone of us has been sideswiped, broad-sided, and smacked so many times by obtrusive comments such that if we were cars,,, well ,,,we would probably look like a 1978 Ford Pinto! The secret is to just extract the information that you need, and leave the "crumbs" (lol) to fall where they may. Ignorance and naivete can only be changed through education, not through rudeness and degradation. I would like to think that all humans will one day realize this.