Question - Out of Curiosity.....

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Cha Cha

I was denied a rescue dog because I did not have a fenced in yard. I have also been denied because I already had a another dog (different time). I firmly believe that it is not always the best interest of the dog (animal) at heart at some shelters!

Just like some breeders are not selling pups to the right people....some rescues don't place pups in the right homes.

BUT....to say that all rescues adopt out the SAME way...one set of rules is just incorrect.

AND.....shelters and rescues are different...you cannot lump them together. Shelters do the best they can with what they have. Rescues can spend more time evaluating and placing pups.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Cha Cha

I was denied a rescue dog because I did not have a fenced in yard. I have also been denied because I already had a another dog (different time). I firmly believe that it is not always the best interest of the dog (animal) at heart at some shelters!

BUT....maybe the pup you wanted was one that the rescue felt NEEDED a fenced in yard? Just a thought.

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

I'm still looking for stuff for Nancy. It was posted on one of the lists I belong to, sometime last year.

Well we are keeping you busy today...haha..

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

I have seen this remark from you before and I honestly think you might be more effective focusing on the breeders who keep pumping these poor little babies out and selling them to just anyone with a buck.

Rescues are strict...and you say you understand; yet it does not seem to me that you do. You really are not correct when you say there is one set of rules. I have told you this before, but you somehow don't seem to understand it. I cannot even begin to tell you what an agonizing, time consuming job it is to find the right home for each pup.....we put a lot of time and love into these darling pups who have been through hell in many cases and NOT because they were poorly placed by a rescue....and we don't want them ever to be in another bad place.

While I can only speak for how I adopt a pup out, I know that many rescuers do exactly as I do...always looking at the needs of the pup first. We are the ones who are saving pups from places where they ended up because they were sold to the wrong people in the first place. I have rarely had a pup come to me that was poorly placed by a rescuer. It is more often one that was purchased from a breeder.

So, perhaps you need to refocus a bit on where the problem begins. It is not with rescue.

A good rescue is much like that of a good breeder. They are tuff and do run you through your paces. But, both have one thing in common the welfare of the pup.

I have certain criteria when placing pups, one is not placing a pup in a home where the kids are younger than 12. However, I just recently placed a pup in a home with a single mom and a son that was 8 years old. However, we had several meet and greets. I monitored both closely. The mother and child relationship was wonderful. He listened to everything she said. I think the first thing that made me feel everything would work out was he knew instinctively to leave his shoes at the front door. When he went into the kitchen he immediately layed down flat and let the pups climb all over him. Giggling the whole time while the pups nibbled on his ears and ran on his back.

Not every situation is the same, but we do set rules into place, based on the law of averages.

[Cha Cha]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

BUT....maybe the pup you wanted was one that the rescue felt NEEDED a fenced in yard? Just a thought.

LOL, that is a nice thought. I would love to compare my resume with that of the shelter staff! Experience, knowledge, and education.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

A good rescue is much like that of a good breeder. They are tuff and do run you through your paces. But, both have one thing in common the welfare of the pup.

I have certain criteria when placing pups, one is not placing a pup in a home where the kids are younger than 12. However, I just recently placed a pup in a home with a single mom and a son that was 8 years old. However, we had several meet and greets. I monitored both closely. The mother and child relationship was wonderful. He listened to everything she said. I think the first thing that made me feel everything would work out was he knew instinctively to leave his shoes at the front door. When he went into the kitchen he immediately layed down flat and let the pups climb all over him. Giggling the whole time while the pups nibbled on his ears and ran on his back.

Not every situation is the same, but we do set rules into place, based on the law of averages.

Well worded...and exactly what I meant! There are rules, but everything must be weighed. It IS all about the welfare of the pups.

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by Cha Cha

I was denied a rescue dog because I did not have a fenced in yard. I have also been denied because I already had a another dog (different time). I firmly believe that it is not always the best interest of the dog (animal) at heart at some shelters!

I know this is a sore subject for you and I am glad you are doing your own thing but age is a factor (many rescues won't tell you this) and frankly I have never seen a shelter really screen their dogs. Shelters usually by law have to move the animals in x number of days and so they gamble the dog will work well with the new owners. They know 50% of them will be returned.

Now the Humane Society is a private organization and is not what I consider a shelter like a city pound but I have not seen them make home visits but have to determine adopting with very little information and the concern of being sued. These dogs are safer than a pound but they have to make room also...

A breed rescue I believe does the best job as long as it is a reputable rescue...they will do home visits, they will look at many things...and will place the best intest of the dog over the humans. These dogs are in a safe home and can be a little more fussy.

So was it a shelter, humane society or a reputable breed rescue...

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by livingdustmops

Well we are keeping you busy today...haha..

I guess I'm just going to have to get a bit more organized with some of this stuff. It's a full time job keeping puppy records straight.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Cha Cha

LOL, that is a nice thought. I would love to compare my resume with that of the shelter staff! Experience, knowledge, and education.

Again, you are saying shelter. That is NOT rescue. And, placing a pup in the right home is more than just experience, knowledge and education. It is about evaluating and knowing the pup and his/her needs.

I am not talking about walking into a shelter and applying. I can say this: I would rather pass up a good home than to make a mistake and ignore the rules and have a pup go back to another hell.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Well worded...and exactly what I meant! There are rules, but everything must be weighed. It IS all about the welfare of the pups.

The only thing that I didn't like is what they, named him....now, think 8 year old boy; "Jedi"

[Patti]

I would either adopt from a shelter or find a rehome. Volunteering at a shelter for the past year has really opened my eyes. I now update the medical files on all the dogs and cats and the amount of dogs and cats returned or brought in because they no longer use the litter box/accidents in the house, moving, having kids etc is mind boggling. It breaks my heart. I sit tin the cat intake room to work and to see the look on their faces not knowing why they are now sitting in a cage (once they are cleared for health they go to the big cat room) or the dogs sitting in a cage. After awhile you see the anxiety turn to resignation. I wish this country would realize something needs to be done.

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by Patti

I would either adopt from a shelter or find a rehome. Volunteering at a shelter for the past year has really opened my eyes. I now update the medical files on all the dogs and cats and the amount of dogs and cats returned or brought in because they no longer use the litter box/accidents in the house, moving, having kids etc is mind boggling. It breaks my heart. I sit tin the cat intake room to work and to see the look on their faces not knowing why they are now sitting in a cage (once they are cleared for health they go to the big cat room) or the dogs sitting in a cage. After awhile you see the anxiety turn to resignation. I wish this country would realize something needs to be done.

So sad and I think every breeder in this country should have to spend time in the pounds and see the piles of dead animals...

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by livingdustmops

So sad and I think every breeder in this country should have to spend time in the pounds and see the piles of dead animals...

I have volunteered there, grooming the dogs that have found new homes.

[Patti]

Originally Posted by livingdustmops

I know this is a sore subject for you and I am glad you are doing your own thing but age is a factor (many rescues won't tell you this) and frankly I have never seen a shelter really screen their dogs. Shelters usually by law have to move the animals in x number of days and so they gamble the dog will work well with the new owners. They know 50% of them will be returned.

Now the Humane Society is a private organization and is not what I consider a shelter like a city pound but I have not seen them make home visits but have to determine adopting with very little information and the concern of being sued. These dogs are safer than a pound but they have to make room also...

A breed rescue I believe does the best job as long as it is a reputable rescue...they will do home visits, they will look at many things...and will place the best intest of the dog over the humans. These dogs are in a safe home and can be a little more fussy.

So was it a shelter, humane society or a reputable breed rescue...

The shelter I volunteer at is a no kill shelter and they are there for life or until adopted. The amount of vet bills and the loving, underpaid staff who work with these babies daily is amazing. At first I thought they turned away too many perspective owners but after seeing the amount of animals returned 1,2 or 3 times for stupid reasons, I see why they are so picky.

[Cha Cha]

It was a Humane Society that I was working with. At the time they euthanized after 3 days, but has since gone to no kill. It is not a sore subject with me, it was a long time ago. All I was saying is that I am as qualified as anyone to take on the most difficult cases and they denied me over not having a fenced in yard!