what does everyone think about this maltese

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by crystalsmom

I know you just lost Stormy but I am so concerned about your daughter with bull terriers, they have massive strength full grown no less as a puppy. Have you ever trained dogs before, this breed is not one to fool around with and although you can make some mistakes with some breeds this breed does need experience. Of course like you said experience does have to start somewhere but why with a breed just a few days ago you were thinking of rehoming. I could think of a 100 breeds to get your experience with that would be easier to train and not such a worry.

If you really need to know, you could simply PM me and ask privately but since you'd like your answer public here it goes, but I will say first off it really isn't any of your business but since inquiring minds would like to know.

Yes a few days ago I was a mess, I lost my beloved dog and was thinking about rehoming this dog. Wouldn't any normal person think that? I had anger, sadness and guilt working inside of my head, I didn't know what to think. We have come to the conclusion instead of getting rid of this dog and putting our family through more saddness we will do what we can to fix the problem. Getting this dog was a LIFE COMMITMENT. If we can't fix her issues and she is a danger then she will be placed in the appropriate home. Secondly it has been mentioned before but this was something we were thinking about PREVIOUSLY before this accident happen. There is no need for you to be concerned about my child. This dog has NOT shown any type of aggression. There was research done and this isn't some dog we picked up who knows where. She isn't a "PITBULL" she is a BULL TERRIER, these are two different breeds, and yes they are strong dogs, but that doesn't make them bad dogs. They don't have the kind of rep that a pitbull does, these dogs aren't ones that just "attack". If you read up about them these are big goofy dogs that are very loyal to their ENTIRE family, they are GREAT with children. And with proper training make very good family pets. It just so happens that my fiancee loves this breed, he has been looking into owning one for about 6 months before he brought her home. These aren't "vicious" dogs and they will avoid conflict at best. I read a story about a Bully and a small breed dog, where the small breed dog was bothering the bull terrier, the bully instead of attacking or hurting the dog simply picked the dog up and put him in a trash can just so he could avoid the conflict.

I also mentioned I am now regularly speaking with a very nice bull terrier breeder. We have discussed MY dog, and possible options with her and we both feel best that she would do well with some training courses and that once she she has another heat cycle or two she will mature and "cool down" with her rough play. As well she has shared great information and tips on how to deal with my bully. I also know it's best not to mix a male bull terrier with another male dog, females do best with other females or males.

I am not looking to be a "breeder", we would be interested in having a litter and seeing how this goes. This is why I am getting the information I need to make a good decision whether or not to go about this, I am finding out the proper testing that needs to be done with these dogs as well as I am going to attend shows with my dog in hopes of meeting the right people to guide me.

This really isn't a bad dog, she is very sweet and loving, she has not shown any issues, she isn't what you are sort of making her seem like some kind of horrible dog. Her only problem is rough playing, but again she is a puppy and learning. We are going to do what we can to fix this issue. She is extremely smart and learns very quickly so I am sure it won't be an issue to correct this. Of course they need alot of dicipline because they can tend to be stubborn.

I hope this is good enough for you?

[magsy17]

Originally Posted by julietimothy

And I have not been on MT in Months it was just to much trouble going from YT to MT so I staied on here. I don't think you do know where I go my dogs, they came from different breeders. I have not tried to force beliefs on anyone, all I have every said is all breeders is not bad people and not to judge with out seeing them for your self. I am not sure why you or anyone find that wrong. I am not the mad person you have made me out to be. I take very good care of my dogs.

No Julie, I mean your suspension on MT I don't like people who shade the truth. Also, you did say where you got your breeding stock from on MT and actually I find it very interesting that the OP got her pup from the same place that some of your dogs came from. Here is the link if you like. malteseuluv5's photos and albums on webshots Which btw they also breed mixed breeds at that kennel. Hi, Cathy of clmaltese Brewton, Ala - MalteseTalk.com Forums - Maltese Forum

Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22

There is no need for you to be concerned about my child. This dog has NOT shown any type of aggression. There was research done and this isn't some dog we picked up who knows where. She isn't a "PITBULL" she is a BULL TERRIER, these are two different breeds, and yes they are strong dogs, but that doesn't make them bad dogs.
I hope this is good enough for you?

I also have a Bull Terrier they are extremely people friendly. They tend to be dog aggressive and on the hyper side. If you have any questions please feel free to pm me.

[bjh]

I would never trust any big dog with a child. I have heard too many horror stories of dogs attacking children they have been raised with. When my daughter was 3 years old she was attacked by my in-laws basset hound because she tried to crawl in his dog house. She had to have 3 stitches in her eye lid. She was lucky she did not lose an eye.

Also, a few years about my daughter had an American Staffordshire Bull Terrier and he was so friendly to everyone and other dogs. Well one evening their neighbor come over carrying a small Pom that the Staff was familiar with but for some reason the Staff grabbed the Pom and locked his jaws on the poor little dog. My daughter could not get the Staff to let go and it was not until the neighbors husband walked in the door and yelled at the Staff then he let go. Fortunately the Pom survived.

[julietimothy]

[QUOTE=magsy17;2716837]No Julie, I mean your suspension on MT I don't like people who shade the truth. Also, you did say where you got your breeding stock from on MT and actually I find it very interesting that the OP got her pup from the same place that some of your dogs came from. Here is the link if you like. malteseuluv5's photos and albums on webshots Which btw they also breed mixed breeds at that kennel. Hi, Cathy of clmaltese Brewton, Ala - MalteseTalk.com Forums - Maltese Forum


I was not suspensed from there I have not been there in a very long time. And I do have some of Mrs. Cathy's Maltese, she is a very good breeder, but is not breeding anymore. For as Mixed breeds not sure what you are talking about. Mrs Cathy has not breed mix breeds that I know of. I am not sure what you may be talking about. Any you don't know me, so you need to stop talking about me too. For as you find it interestion that the OP (what ever that is) got her puppy from Mrs Cathy, I don't know who all she sold to. She breed for over 20 years how would I know what you are talking about. stop acting like you know me you don't you have never seen me, been to my house, so just stop.

[Julie1760]

To the op......congrats on finding your puppy. I know you'll have a lifetime of joy. I'm sorry to see that your post has some people up in arms. I do think they should take their differences to another topic and not ruin your happiness.

Can't wait to see pictures.

[magsy17]

[quote=julietimothy;2716864]

Originally Posted by magsy17

No Julie, I mean your suspension on MT I don't like people who shade the truth. Also, you did say where you got your breeding stock from on MT and actually I find it very interesting that the OP got her pup from the same place that some of your dogs came from. Here is the link if you like. malteseuluv5's photos and albums on webshots Which btw they also breed mixed breeds at that kennel. Hi, Cathy of clmaltese Brewton, Ala - MalteseTalk.com Forums - Maltese Forum


I was not suspensed from there I have not been there in a very long time. And I do have some of Mrs. Cathy's Maltese, she is a very good breeder, but is not breeding anymore. For as Mixed breeds not sure what you are talking about. Mrs Cathy has not breed mix breeds that I know of. I am not sure what you may be talking about. Any you don't know me, so you need to stop talking about me too. For as you find it interestion that the OP (what ever that is) got her puppy from Mrs Cathy, I don't know who all she sold to. She breed for over 20 years how would I know what you are talking about. stop acting like you know me you don't you have never seen me, been to my house, so just stop.

I'm sorry I must have been mistaken. I don't personally know you and that's a good thing. That's all. Have a good night.
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[cynsir]

So happy that you got your maltese. I ended up with at 8 weeks old female Maltese, her name is Cassie. You can check out her pictures in her album on my page. Congratulations.

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by bjh

I would never trust any big dog with a child. I have heard too many horror stories of dogs attacking children they have been raised with. When my daughter was 3 years old she was attacked by my in-laws basset hound because she tried to crawl in his dog house. She had to have 3 stitches in her eye lid. She was lucky she did not lose an eye.

Also, a few years about my daughter had an American Staffordshire Bull Terrier and he was so friendly to everyone and other dogs. Well one evening their neighbor come over carrying a small Pom that the Staff was familiar with but for some reason the Staff grabbed the Pom and locked his jaws on the poor little dog. My daughter could not get the Staff to let go and it was not until the neighbors husband walked in the door and yelled at the Staff then he let go. Fortunately the Pom survived.

That isn't the correct name for that dog, this is why some people get different breeds mixed up. Those are called American Staffordshire Terriers and they are very much like a PITBULL terrier, which over here those are illegal, this type I have is not illegal and may be in the "terrier" family but these have not been found to be dangerous in my city otherwise Canadian Customs would of took her away when we tried to cross the border.

I know what you mean about large dogs though because my mom has an older very large boxer, she was never raised with children and sometimes can get a bit snippy with my daughter if she is bothering her. As long as you don't bug her when she is having her time alone she is fine, wouldn't hurt a fly. It all depends on the dog, like I said, this dog I have now has not shown any type of aggression towards children, she loves to play. She is very calm and not hyper like some others may be, shes very lazy but gets her spouts of wanting to play like ANY other type of dog. These aren't even that big, shes quite short and around 35-40lbs, But of course strong.

I personally was raised around dogs and never ever had one bite me or anything, I was always careful and gentle around dogs as my daughter has received this trait I had too. I don't remember ever meeting an aggressive dog when I was young, the only bad experience I had is when we had a Springer Spanial that was territorial over my moms bed if my mom was sleeping in it. And when a pitbull attacked her for no reason in our front yard.

[crystalsmom]

Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22

If you really need to know, you could simply PM me and ask privately but since you'd like your answer public here it goes, but I will say first off it really isn't any of your business but since inquiring minds would like to know.

Yes a few days ago I was a mess, I lost my beloved dog and was thinking about rehoming this dog. Wouldn't any normal person think that? I had anger, sadness and guilt working inside of my head, I didn't know what to think. We have come to the conclusion instead of getting rid of this dog and putting our family through more saddness we will do what we can to fix the problem. Getting this dog was a LIFE COMMITMENT. If we can't fix her issues and she is a danger then she will be placed in the appropriate home. Secondly it has been mentioned before but this was something we were thinking about PREVIOUSLY before this accident happen. There is no need for you to be concerned about my child. This dog has NOT shown any type of aggression. There was research done and this isn't some dog we picked up who knows where. She isn't a "PITBULL" she is a BULL TERRIER, these are two different breeds, and yes they are strong dogs, but that doesn't make them bad dogs. They don't have the kind of rep that a pitbull does, these dogs aren't ones that just "attack". If you read up about them these are big goofy dogs that are very loyal to their ENTIRE family, they are GREAT with children. And with proper training make very good family pets. It just so happens that my fiancee loves this breed, he has been looking into owning one for about 6 months before he brought her home. These aren't "vicious" dogs and they will avoid conflict at best. I read a story about a Bully and a small breed dog, where the small breed dog was bothering the bull terrier, the bully instead of attacking or hurting the dog simply picked the dog up and put him in a trash can just so he could avoid the conflict.

I also mentioned I am now regularly speaking with a very nice bull terrier breeder. We have discussed MY dog, and possible options with her and we both feel best that she would do well with some training courses and that once she she has another heat cycle or two she will mature and "cool down" with her rough play. As well she has shared great information and tips on how to deal with my bully. I also know it's best not to mix a male bull terrier with another male dog, females do best with other females or males.

I am not looking to be a "breeder", we would be interested in having a litter and seeing how this goes. This is why I am getting the information I need to make a good decision whether or not to go about this, I am finding out the proper testing that needs to be done with these dogs as well as I am going to attend shows with my dog in hopes of meeting the right people to guide me.

This really isn't a bad dog, she is very sweet and loving, she has not shown any issues, she isn't what you are sort of making her seem like some kind of horrible dog. Her only problem is rough playing, but again she is a puppy and learning. We are going to do what we can to fix this issue. She is extremely smart and learns very quickly so I am sure it won't be an issue to correct this. Of course they need alot of dicipline because they can tend to be stubborn.

I hope this is good enough for you?

Sure whatever you say.

In England the Am. staffordshire terrier and the Pit bull terrier are one and the same. In Ohio if you own one you can't even get insurance on your home. But you know what if you think it is none of my business to worry about your child, I won't !! If you want to play with fire go ahead.

[bjh]

My youngest daughter's friend has a lab mix that is several years old and a few months ago my daughter was bragging about how gentle the dog was and that he would never hurt a flea. Well, just a few days after that my daughter was outside her apartment with the dog and she was talking to her neighbor. The neighbor had a little boy around 5 years old and the boy kept running up to the dog, yelling in his face. Melissa kept telling the boy to stop but the kid did it one to many times and the dog bit him. So no matter how gentle you think a dog is they all have a breaking point.

It makes me sick when people tell me 'Oh, my dog is so gentle the kids can climb all over him and pull his ears and the dog just lets them' What the heck are these people thinking. You should never let a child do that to a dog, no matter how gentle they are. It just takes a split second for tragedy to strike.

[crystalsmom]

Originally Posted by bjh

My youngest daughter's friend has a lab mix that is several years old and a few months ago my daughter was bragging about how gentle the dog was and that he would never hurt a flea. Well, just a few days after that my daughter was outside her apartment with the dog and she was talking to her neighbor. The neighbor had a little boy around 5 years old and the boy kept running up to the dog, yelling in his face. Melissa kept telling the boy to stop but the kid did it one to many times and the dog bit him. So no matter how gentle you think a dog is they all have a breaking point.

It makes me sick when people tell me 'Oh, my dog is so gentle the kids can climb all over him and pull his ears and the dog just lets them' What the heck are these people thinking. You should never let a child do that to a dog, no matter how gentle they are. It just takes a split second for tragedy to strike.

I agree!!

Can't wait to see pictures of baby Clora

[magsy17]

Originally Posted by crystalsmom

Sure whatever you say.

In England the Am. staffordshire terrier and the Pit bull terrier are one and the same. In Ohio if you own one you can't even get insurance on your home. But you know what if you think it is none of my business to worry about your child, I won't !! If you want to play with fire go ahead.

A Bull Terrier, an American Staffordshire Terrier and a Pit Bull are three different dogs. Where I live in Miami-Dade County the Pit Bull's are illegal and it is really hard to distinguish the difference between the Pit Bull and the Am Staffordshire but the Bull Terrier is a totally different look and temperament. Just looking at the head of a Bully you can see the difference. I have had my Snoopy for 6 years and he has been great with my family. For those who don't know what they look like they are the Target dog or for you beer drinkers the old Spuds McKenzie.

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by magsy17

A Bull Terrier, an American Staffordshire Terrier and a Pit Bull are three different dogs. Where I live in Miami-Dade County the Pit Bull's are illegal and it is really hard to distinguish the difference between the Pit Bull and the Am Staffordshire but the Bull Terrier is a totally different look and temperament. Just looking at the head of a Bully you can see the difference. I have had my Snoopy for 6 years and he has been great with my family. For those who don't know what they look like they are the Target dog or for you beer drinkers the old Spuds McKenzie.

Thank you! I think that people are mixing up the breeds here. Since the name is so similar.

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by bjh

My youngest daughter's friend has a lab mix that is several years old and a few months ago my daughter was bragging about how gentle the dog was and that he would never hurt a flea. Well, just a few days after that my daughter was outside her apartment with the dog and she was talking to her neighbor. The neighbor had a little boy around 5 years old and the boy kept running up to the dog, yelling in his face. Melissa kept telling the boy to stop but the kid did it one to many times and the dog bit him. So no matter how gentle you think a dog is they all have a breaking point.

It makes me sick when people tell me 'Oh, my dog is so gentle the kids can climb all over him and pull his ears and the dog just lets them' What the heck are these people thinking. You should never let a child do that to a dog, no matter how gentle they are. It just takes a split second for tragedy to strike.

Right this is very true, people and animals all have a breaking point, it is the owners responisbility to ensure that it doesn't happen. This is why I and my mom don't allow my daughter or ANY child for that matter climb, bug or annoy the dog, because yes the dog can bite and WILL bite, but who's fault is it really? It isn't the dogs fault if he has to snap, they can't speak and say leave me alone, they are doing what the were intended to do and that can happen with the smallest of dogs as well.

I don't sit and brag that my dog is this and that, I just said she is calm and has shown no aggression. I don't let my daughter climb all over and and try to provoke her. We are being even more careful now, nobody is able to watch the dog shes in the kitchen where it's gated off.

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by crystalsmom

Sure whatever you say.

In England the Am. staffordshire terrier and the Pit bull terrier are one and the same. In Ohio if you own one you can't even get insurance on your home. But you know what if you think it is none of my business to worry about your child, I won't !! If you want to play with fire go ahead.

I think you should look up what a Bull terrier is, sometimes they go by the name of "english bull terriers". This is NOTHING like a pit bull or a staffy. Yes a pit and staffy look the same and I probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference but my bully is NOTHING like that breed. I think you are misunderstanding. Sorry if I come off rude but I don't believe my child is in harms way. There is chances we all take having ANY type of dog and a child. This is why we go to find a breeder who knows what they are doing and aren't breeding "fighting dogs". Bull terriers don't fight other dogs like pitbulls can. Like I mentioned mine is very mellow and she has not even shown aggression towards dogs. It's all in how you raise your dog.
The bull terrier is also referred to the "DON CHERRY DOG". Big snout.