Walmart Trip -- grrrr.....

[MizMaRLeysMoM86]

Originally Posted by dogbert

The lady on Tyra was crying because she wasn't as heavy as she wanted to be. She wants to ride the cart! I can't remember if she was or wanted to be 500 pounds, I'd have to ask our daughter who saw the entire show.
I can't imagine why you would want to be in that state. Sounds like some serious counceling is needed for her. That being said I come from a heavy family, sometimes weight gain is not as easy to control when you have medical issues that cause you to gain treated by drugs that cause you to gain. Especially when you have the family fat gene to start with. I know what it's like to be heavy and treated like crap because of it. So I am careful how I treat heavy people as well. Believe me most heavy people are pretty sad, lonely and depressed before anyone says anything to them or about them that they can hear.

I have been called fat before by ex boyfriends ( I have a wonderful husband now ) and it cut like a knife. I do not think anyone should ever put anyone down because of your looks. That is just cruel. I keep comments like that to myself, there is no reason to be vocal about how someone else looks. BUT, I was overweight because I was lazy. I lost a little weight because I eat better now and exercise but it took hard work. I can see how people are sad and depressed, believe me, I was when I was just 40 lbs overweight. But when laziness is the determining factor is just makes me mad when they act like that lady. yah know??

[dogbert]

Once again it goes to not judging the book by the cover. We don't know who is heavy due to conditions beyond their control and who isn't.

[Rerun201]

Originally Posted by dogbert

Once again it goes to not judging the book by the cover. We don't know who is heavy due to conditions beyond their control and who isn't.

[MizMaRLeysMoM86]

Originally Posted by dogbert

Once again it goes to not judging the book by the cover. We don't know who is heavy due to conditions beyond their control and who isn't.

I know I am guilty of that at times when it comes to overweight people and I need to work on it. I never thought about it that way. I think my problem is I assume its to laziness because that is why I was overweight...and my uncle as well.. i've never really known anyone overweight due to medical issues.. but i know its possible

[Rerun201]

Originally Posted by MizMaRLeysMoM86

I know I am guilty of that at times and I need to work on it.

I think most of us are guilty of it now and then. I know I sure have been. I think that's why we're all called human. We're all a work in progress!

[Lioncross4]

I am so offended by this thread, I am thinking of leaving yorkie talk. I was a trainer and one of the most fit people on the planet. I almost died in a mountain climbing accident and live on 37 drugs a day to stay alive and have massive body damage due to the medicines they used to save my life.
If you look at me...I would fit the description so scornfully posted by the yorkie talk community. I live on 600 calories a day and work 3 jobs. I will never be able to live without drugs again...and will never be able to leave my wheelchair or the carts at Walmart. Yet, I mentor women, raise great kids and serve the community.

The amount of prejudice in this thread is cruel. I am the first to say that many people abuse the carts and see their disabilties as an avenue for entitlement....that is equally wrong. People in carts need to be aware and considerate just as if they were pushing a cart through the store--which I would give ANYTHING to do!

Oh to be free to do what i want without first taking drugs and dealing with mind altering pain. Hope you all enjoyed this rant. It was painful beyond words for me.

[MizMaRLeysMoM86]

Originally Posted by Lioncross4

I am so offended by this thread, I am thinking of leaving yorkie talk. I was a trainer and one of the most fit people on the planet. I almost died in a mountain climbing accident and live on 37 drugs a day to stay alive and have massive body damage due to the medicines they used to save my life.
If you look at me...I would fit the description so scornfully posted by the yorkie talk community. I live on 600 calories a day and work 3 jobs. I will never be able to live without drugs again...and will never be able to leave my wheelchair or the carts at Walmart. Yet, I mentor women, raise great kids and serve the community.

The amount of prejudice in this thread is cruel. I am the first to say that many people abuse the carts and see their disabilties as an avenue for entitlement....that is equally wrong. People in carts need to be aware and considerate just as if they were pushing a cart through the store--which I would give ANYTHING to do!

Oh to be free to do what i want without first taking drugs and dealing with mind altering pain. Hope you all enjoyed this rant. It was painful beyond words for me.

First off all, the people on this thread don't agree with people who don't need the carts using them , so that people LIKE YOURSELF can use them! I am horribly sorry that you are wheelchair bound and have to take prescriptions to survive. I would not wish that on my own worst enemy. I do not see how you find this thread offensive??? We are advocating for people that NEED to use them. Not teenagers that use them for the hell of it or overweight people that are just plain too lazy to walk! If I may ask, HOW do you find this offensive? And if you didn't notice , alot of the people that posted have disabilities as well, and need to use the carts themselves.

[Rerun201]

Originally Posted by MizMaRLeysMoM86

First off all, the people on this thread don't agree with people who don't need the carts using them , so that people LIKE YOURSELF can use them! I am horribly sorry that you are wheelchair bound and have to take prescriptions to survive. I would not wish that on my own worst enemy. I do not see how you find this thread offensive??? We are advocating for people that NEED to use them. Not teenagers that use them for the hell of it or overweight people that are just plain too lazy to walk! If I may ask, HOW do you find this offensive?

Yeah, I have to agree with you on this one. The whole thread was about people who use them when they don't need them. We also touched on how sometimes the disability isn't necessary obvious. I don't see how it offended so much. I'm not offended, and sometimes I need one. That's just the life we're dealt. Nobody asks for it, but it happens.

[chattiesmom]

Originally Posted by Lioncross4

I am so offended by this thread, I am thinking of leaving yorkie talk. I was a trainer and one of the most fit people on the planet. I almost died in a mountain climbing accident and live on 37 drugs a day to stay alive and have massive body damage due to the medicines they used to save my life.
If you look at me...I would fit the description so scornfully posted by the yorkie talk community. I live on 600 calories a day and work 3 jobs. I will never be able to live without drugs again...and will never be able to leave my wheelchair or the carts at Walmart. Yet, I mentor women, raise great kids and serve the community.

The amount of prejudice in this thread is cruel. I am the first to say that many people abuse the carts and see their disabilties as an avenue for entitlement....that is equally wrong. People in carts need to be aware and considerate just as if they were pushing a cart through the store--which I would give ANYTHING to do!

Oh to be free to do what i want without first taking drugs and dealing with mind altering pain. Hope you all enjoyed this rant. It was painful beyond words for me.

I am sorry you were offended by this thread. I, too am offended by many threads, and the moment I am offended, I quit reading and move on to a more pleasant thread. I am also offended by rude cart riders and/or pushers at stores.

I, too, was a very active person, the love of my life was raising and training my miniature horses. That love was robbed from me by a life threatening accident. Although I do not take a plethora of drugs daily, I will NEVER EVER live another day without pain. Pain sucks. , but I chose to endure the pain rather than take the horrible mind altering drugs. I do not judge anyone, in my own recovery I have learned that I am responsible for me and the way I feel. Others can only offend me if I allow it to happen.

I have gained weight and because I am not able to maintain the activity level that I once enjoyed gaining weight is easy, losing the extra lbs. isn't. I am one of those who has a permanent handicap tag on my car, and I find it necessary to ride carts at times - at other times I walk. Often when park in a handicap space and/or I ride a cart, people are less than polite because I have NO outward signs of a handicap, other than the surgery scars. For all practical purposes I appear to be a normal healthy person. Few of us go through life unscathed by adversity.

[MizMaRLeysMoM86]

Originally Posted by chattiesmom

Often when park in a handicap space and/or I ride a cart, people are less than polite because I have NO outward signs of a handicap, other than the surgery scars. For all practical purposes I appear to be a normal healthy person.

This really makes me sad, there is no call for that at all.....

[chattiesmom]

Originally Posted by MizMaRLeysMoM86

This really makes me sad, there is no call for that at all.....

I have learned to hold my head up high and keep on going. I honestly don't think that most people intend to be rude, but when you haven't been there done that it is hard to understand. It is so easy to judge on appearances, but you just never know.....

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by Lioncross4

I am so offended by this thread, I am thinking of leaving yorkie talk. I was a trainer and one of the most fit people on the planet. I almost died in a mountain climbing accident and live on 37 drugs a day to stay alive and have massive body damage due to the medicines they used to save my life.
If you look at me...I would fit the description so scornfully posted by the yorkie talk community. I live on 600 calories a day and work 3 jobs. I will never be able to live without drugs again...and will never be able to leave my wheelchair or the carts at Walmart. Yet, I mentor women, raise great kids and serve the community.

The amount of prejudice in this thread is cruel. I am the first to say that many people abuse the carts and see their disabilties as an avenue for entitlement....that is equally wrong. People in carts need to be aware and considerate just as if they were pushing a cart through the store--which I would give ANYTHING to do!

Oh to be free to do what i want without first taking drugs and dealing with mind altering pain. Hope you all enjoyed this rant. It was painful beyond words for me.

Lioncross -- I am so sorry you feel offended by the thread, but I think if you read carefully, you will see that nowhere is anyone saying anything against those that truly need to use a cart and are courteous. My complaint was about a person who drove her van into me as I was against a curb, then cussed me for getting in her way -- she happened to be a cart user and at least one of her reasons was being so very large -- which is actually a handicap when at that extreme. I am chunky myself, and would not say anything against someone just for being overweight.

I think everyone is really just saying the same as you did when you said, "I am the first to say that many people abuse the carts and see their disabilties as an avenue for entitlement....that is equally wrong. " And also adding that many are just down right rude -- they were probably rude when they were slim and healthy too. But maybe not, maybe their disability has soured them on life and that is pretty sad too. But being on the receiving end can be unnerving and this is just a place to vent.

I know that many, many of the disabilities that require a person to use a cart are unseen. Some may even be able to walk fine for short distances and appear healthy but need a cart for anything as tiring as a Super Walmart trek. I understand and appreciate what they have to go through. I too, have a chronic pain problem and am at the absolute topside of pain meds and still be able to drive. I could use more but am unwilling to give up my mobility. So, believe me, I do have empathy for what you are saying. But I am willing to bet that when you do use the cart, you are not rude to others. Just hearing what you do, it is easy to see you have made it a point to still be a gracious human being despite the pain and suffering you deal with daily. So, in no way was anything said in this thread meant for you, I hope you believe that! It is just the way of it that a truly good person as yourself, would worry that others might be talking about them because they are so conscious of other people's feelings, and the ones that were rude and obtrusive probably would not even see themselves in the posts.

[ritzydaisy]

Toxic people are always so frustrating. It is scary to realize these same people who can't steer a shopping cart are driving around in their cars. I try to use them as examples of how NOT to be.

Many disabilities are not always obvious, and we need to respect everyone. I finally convinced my girlfriend to try using one of those motorized carts in the store because her legs and feet were so painful she could not stand or walk more than a few steps. (diabetes) I told her she had every right to use one. That's what they are there for. She finally got up the erve to try it, and a very rude person came up to her and said she should get off and let someone who REALLY needed it use it. She was crushed and felt very guilty.

We are not to judge other people's disabilities or determine which person needs it most. If they are permanently disabled and need something to help them around, they should find a way to have their own.

As a disabled person myself, I try to understand the ignorance of people who make rude comments as they just don't know better. Have you seen the movie "Idiocracy"??? They buy their electrolytes at WalMart, don't you know? LOL

[dogbert]

I'm so sorry this thread was taken the wrong way by some. I truly don't believe anyone meant any harm. I thought we were sticking up for those in need.

[Rerun201]

Originally Posted by dogbert

I'm so sorry this thread was taken the wrong way by some. I truly don't believe anyone meant any harm. I thought we were sticking up for those in need.