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Lexi Rae 01-20-2009 07:57 AM
he's a piece of s**tand deserves s**t.

Rudys Mom 01-20-2009 11:06 AM
Tina, I'm just seeing this now. I'm going to sign the Petition. He does NOT deserve to be back in the NFL.:(

Akbritt 01-20-2009 11:17 AM
signed it

Nikki+2 01-20-2009 11:20 AM
Going to sign right now.:thumbup:

ARCHIE 01-20-2009 11:32 AM
Michael Vick deserves nothing! Get a job like any other person who has
to find a way to make a living! That is no excuse, "It's all he knows how
to do" Poor U. Who cares, wash cars, flip hamburger's etc.
He had it all and choose his fate as far as I'm concerned.
No, he should not be allowed to return to the NFL.
I voted!
The majority of his dogs found loving homes. If he did not get
caught they would still be suffering or dead!

Lexi Rae 01-20-2009 11:51 AM
thats right!!! he would still be doing it... he deserves nothing

shirlblack 01-20-2009 11:55 AM
Thank you for posting this. I first thought that surely he wouldn't be allowed back in but money talks and really nothing surprises me anymore.

BamaFan121s 01-20-2009 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ARCHIE (Post 2428590)
Get a job like any other person who has
to find a way to make a living! Who cares, wash cars, flip hamburger's etc.
He had it all and choose his fate as far as I'm concerned.
No, he should not be allowed to return to the NFL.
So, he has a right to and should get a job, but others have the right to say what type job he should have...:confused:

DukesMommy 01-20-2009 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2429117)
So, he has a right to and should get a job, but others have the right to say what type job he should have...:confused:
He doesn't deserve the status he had before. Being in the NFL makes him a celebrity. He had that position and we saw what he chose to do. He effed up-he made that decision, knowing the consequences. If I had children, I wouldn't want them looking up to someone like that, and I sure as hell wouldn't want them to see him regain what he once had just because he could grease a few palms, or whatever would get him back to where he was.
The same goes for other celebs (just because someone brought it up earlier) I don't think they should be rewarded for the negative attention they get with DUI's.
they should all get treated the same way anyone else would. If I got busted for dog fighting and animal cruelty, went to prison, then got out, I know I wouldn't be able to go back to working in the preschool I worked at.

BamaFan121s 01-20-2009 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DukesMommy (Post 2429405)
He doesn't deserve the status he had before. Being in the NFL makes him a celebrity. He had that position and we saw what he chose to do. He effed up-he made that decision, knowing the consequences. If I had children, I wouldn't want them looking up to someone like that, and I sure as hell wouldn't want them to see him regain what he once had just because he could grease a few palms, or whatever would get him back to where he was.
THAT is actually my opinion on it too, believe it or not. I don't think he should be viewed as a role model either. I don't want him back in the NFL either and would never support a team that would have him. But that is just MY opinion. I don't think it's my place to dictate what company can hire him and which can't. As far as not wanting your children (theoretically speaking) to look up to someone like that...shouldn't that be the parent's job to instill those values in their child and teach them right from wrong? It's not the NFL's responsibility to instill values on the youth of America, that is something that comes from parenting.

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Originally Posted by DukesMommy (Post 2429405)
The same goes for other celebs (just because someone brought it up earlier) I don't think they should be rewarded for the negative attention they get with DUI's.
they should all get treated the same way anyone else would. If I got busted for dog fighting and animal cruelty, went to prison, then got out, I know I wouldn't be able to go back to working in the preschool I worked at.
You wouldn't be allowed because of the type of work you do. I personally don't think that he "got special treatment" because of who he is. He got a sentence a heck of a lot stricter that any average Joe would have gotten. People are convicted of the same crime frequently and get community service and a fine IF that even. Do I think the penalties for animal cruelty should be more harsh? You bet I do, for both the suffering the animals are subjected to AND because I think it masks a deeper, dangerous psychological issue. But they aren't as strict as they should be and per our justice system, he will have served his time and at that point should be free to re-enter the work force, whatever that may be. I'm confused by how he has been rewarded over all of this? :confused: He got and is getting what he deserves, fines, jail time, loss of property, a tarnished reputation, fired from his job and loss of his income from endorsements. Which is exactly what he deserves. If you feel that strongly about it, boycott the team that signs him, or boycott the NFL altogether.

megansmomma 01-20-2009 06:59 PM
I signed the petition and have passed it on to everyone of my contacts. Michael Vick came from nothing and was given the world but instead of leading by example he decided to throw it all away. His deplorable behavior is so much farther reaching than just his dog fighting conviction. He was given opportunities that so many dream about. Instead of embracing his God given talents and what life offered he instead decided it would be better to be disrespectful to his fans, test positive for drug use, have numerous children by multiple women and his felonious activities are just the final icing on his party. Because of these behavior he lost many very lucrative endorsement contracts and continued on this path until ultimately he single handedly drove his career into the ground with his dog fighting conviction. He managed to do all of this in a matter of just a few short year and is now a bankrupt felon. We should feel sorry or take pity on him? I have not one ounce of pity or sympathy for this horrible man.

BamaFan121s 01-20-2009 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 2429451)
We should feel sorry or take pity on him? I have not one ounce of pity or sympathy for this horrible man.
Who in their right mind would take pity on him!? :eek: He did it to himself!

chloesMama 01-20-2009 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2429117)
So, he has a right to and should get a job, but others have the right to say what type job he should have...:confused:

I have to agree with Bamafan121s here. While I DO NOT like Michael Vick , quite frankly I detested him as a person long before he did what he did, but after he has served his sentence in accordance with our laws his debt to society is considered paid.

The problem is that with most crimes after the convicted have served their sentence and are released , both the person and the community know what kind of job they will qualify to hold. If you are a convicted felon you can't become FBI agent and carry a weapon . If you are a sex offender you can't work with children . In Michael Vick's case the NFL is a sports league and the only way he would be permanently banned was if he was convicted of gambling and personal monetary gain , his plea agreement made sure that was not the case.

BamaFan121s 01-20-2009 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chloesMama (Post 2429500)
In Michael Vick's case the NFL is a sports league and the only way he would be permanently banned was if he was convicted of gambling and personal monetary gain , his plea agreement made sure that was not the case.
He certainly has his lawyers to thank for that one! :mad:

DukesMommy 01-20-2009 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2429449)
THAT is actually my opinion on it too, believe it or not. I don't think he should be viewed as a role model either. I don't want him back in the NFL either and would never support a team that would have him. But that is just MY opinion. I don't think it's my place to dictate what company can hire him and which can't. As far as not wanting your children (theoretically speaking) to look up to someone like that...shouldn't that be the parent's job to instill those values in their child and teach them right from wrong? It's not the NFL's responsibility to instill values on the youth of America, that is something that comes from parenting.


You wouldn't be allowed because of the type of work you do. I personally don't think that he "got special treatment" because of who he is. He got a sentence a heck of a lot stricter that any average Joe would have gotten. People are convicted of the same crime frequently and get community service and a fine IF that even. Do I think the penalties for animal cruelty should be more harsh? You bet I do, for both the suffering the animals are subjected to AND because I think it masks a deeper, dangerous psychological issue. But they aren't as strict as they should be and per our justice system, he will have served his time and at that point should be free to re-enter the work force, whatever that may be. I'm confused by how he has been rewarded over all of this? :confused: He got and is getting what he deserves, fines, jail time, loss of property, a tarnished reputation, fired from his job and loss of his income from endorsements. Which is exactly what he deserves. If you feel that strongly about it, boycott the team that signs him, or boycott the NFL altogether.
You're right that it is the parents responsibility to instill values in their children. But, I don't think it's a good representation of the way we all work as a whole, when you see people who make ridiculous amounts of money, and are in the publics eye, then one day they blatantly break the law (I was surprised myself, at the sentence he actually got. I thought he would pay a fine and be done with it) then return back to the lifestyle they had before after everything is said and done, I don't think that is right.
I know he served his time, but I still think it would be rewarding him in a way by allowing him to go right back into the NFL. I just think things like that shouldn't be taken as lightly as they are. Personally I have no interest in football, I think it is boring, so I don't watch it either way. But I am not just looking at it as one person in one career field, he isn't the first celeb to do something apalling, I think when any of them do something that disgusting they should lose their "on top of the world" social status.


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