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Old 12-08-2008, 08:03 AM   #31
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A 1 year old doesn't want to hold your hand when they learn to walk they want to go on there own this is perfect for them
My mother used one when i was about that age it allowed me to think i was on my own & i couldn't go to far.
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I see nothing wrong with them. I would rather have people think me a horrible parent with a safe and happy child on a leash than to have harm come to my child. It only takes a few seconds for someone to take a child and every parent can and will get distracted while out with their children.
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We live near Starved Rock which has a lot of potential for falls. I borrowed a harness from a friend when we took my three year old there. We got all kinds of harassment from people criticizing us for leashing a child like a dog but by God that child enjoyed the day without having to be repeatedly scolded for getting too close to the edge of a cliff or wandering off when I was distracted by our five-year old. I never borrowed it again but it saved the day for the whole family as far as I'm concerned. I wouldn't take a child on a leash anywhere else though.
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The argument could be made the same with strapping your child into a stroller...How many times have you strapped your kid in because you were in a hurry and didn't want to take the time out to walk at their pace? Or were shopping and strapped them in so you didn't have to wonder if they were roaming off...same thing essentially. I have seen many toddlers crying because they just wanted to get out of the stroller and be able to explore, which is natural for children...This is where the "leash" comes in handy. I see nothing wrong with it at all.

That is a VERY good point. I guess that if people think that "lazy" parents use leashes, that would make stroller users lazier yet.
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I think if used properly they are fine, I must say a child 3 4 5 6 or even 12 can be fooled by a Pedophile , they use techniques like lost puppy stories and more to gain the trust of young people, I am sorry but sometimes not even a 10yr old has the brain capacity to understand what these monsters are doing so how can a 3 4 or 5 yr old..JMO
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I had the same opinion about them when I had my oldest son, who was pretty close to being a perfect baby/toddler. I would not have thought about using one....then 6 years later came my youngest, red head....who decided at 8 months to not just walk but walk very fast. I didn't use one on him either...but should have. I think they are a great invention! The argument could be made the same with strapping your child into a stroller...How many times have you strapped your kid in because you were in a hurry and didn't want to take the time out to walk at their pace? Or were shopping and strapped them in so you didn't have to wonder if they were roaming off...same thing essentially. I have seen many toddlers crying because they just wanted to get out of the stroller and be able to explore, which is natural for children...This is where the "leash" comes in handy. I see nothing wrong with it at all.
Never thought about the whole stroller thing and being strapped in. It kind is the same thing in a way. Hmm that could be something great to use in my paper. I knew I'd get some great opinions and different outlooks on this issue.
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I'd like to thank everyone for your opinions on this issue. I got a lot of different opinions and outlooks. I might have to change my stance on my argument paper, although I might have to pick a side and stick to it.

You YT'ers are awesome!!

I'm about to go research the issue some more.
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:42 PM   #38
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I don't think it's lazy at all... how is caring for your child's safety and well being lazy???

If you're dog walked PERFECTLY at heel, right next to you all the time would you take your dog out without a leash? I think the majority of you would say no! Why? Because of other dangers to your dog. Because of another dog attacking your dog. Because someone might take your dog. Because your dog might decide to take off and you can't catch them quick enough to stop them being hurt. Because you could be distracted for a second, look back and your dogs gone.

Some of you don't think it looks stupid to dress your dogs in clothes and put them on a leash and take them for a walk but think it's stupid to put a child on a harness and take them for a walk!

I have every intention of using a harness on Amelia when she's walking for her own safety and not because I'm a lazy parent! Yes I could make her hold my hand but as Lenora said, a small child doesn't always want to hold your hand and they will fight you to get away. I would rather have her walking next to me, on a harness, secure and safe!

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I think the child leash thing is sad. And its a sad statement of how our world has changed. There are so many child molesters/sex offenders out there now, especially looking for their next victom in a crowded mall. I think it would be easy for a mom to get distracted now a-days. So I guess its kind of a safety thing.
Exactly! The world is full of awful people. I am paranoid enough when I'm out with Amelia in her stroller and won't even take my hand off it for a second because I am THAT worried!

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But a shopping mall (maybe find a baby sitter) or the grocery store. EHHH I don't agree with it. Maybe you could even shop online.
Yeah nice thought. Not everyone has that option though. I guess staying home and shopping online or even having someone else care for your child isn't as lazy as using a harness.

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I have 4 children two are toddlers, one 18 month old still in a pushchair and a 2 3/4 year old. I use a backpack with a strap with my older toddler. This is why;
The main reason we use leashes with our dogs is to protect them from harm, IMO dogs are easier to train than stubborn toddlers so are we lazy when we use leashes on our dogs? As much as I love my dogs my children are far more precious to me and it seems obvious to me to protect my children in this way.
There was a story on the news here in the UK (last year I think) of a mother in a similar situation to me with a child in a pram and a toddler walking. They came to cross the road and the toddler must have seen something across the road and ran out, there was a lorry coming so instinctively the mother ran out to save her toddler, and did. Unfortunately in her panic she didn't have time to put the brake on the pushchair which rolled into the road and her baby died an horrific death! Going further back there's the story of Jamie Bulger, a toddler who was abducted in a busy shopping mall whilst walking next to his mother. He was sexually assaulted, mutilated and murdered in a sick and twisted manner by two 12 year old boys!

Toddlers can be stubborn,disobidient and regulary act out against their parents, its part of growing up and I DO teach my children how to behave especially in public. These straps/reins/leashes whatever you want to call them should be used as training aids and children should still be taught alongside them. I do agree that some people misuse them but I still prefer to see a happy secure safe child walking alongside their parents than a news story like the ones I have mentioned.

I will continue to use my sons backpack until I KNOW I can trust him in any situation, its different if you only have one child to look out for but with two you have to be more cautious.

How many of you would take a 3/4 month old puppy out into town or near busy roads without a restraint???
I 100% agree with you and these are my reasons for planning to use one with Amelia.
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Old 12-08-2008, 05:39 PM   #39
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Okay, I see nothing wrong using a harness as long as it is used properly. I do not like the ones that attach to the wrist. I think that you can hurt a childs arm. Also, with a harness it is only used as a safety precaution, not a babysitter. My mom used them to keep us belted in our buggy, ( I stood up and before she could get to me I took a header out of the buggy) it scared the living daylights out of her, so she used the harness for added protection kinda like a seatbelt, because at that point I had figured out how to undo the belt in the buggy. When children are very busy it only takes a second for their tiny hand to slip out of yours and poof they are on the run. I have caught many a child from falling down an escalator or stairs because mum has her hands full and another child and the toddler wriggles free. These parents are paying attention to their children and they are good parents but if they had a harness the child would not have gotten far. Also if a child is on a harness you hold the childs hand don't let them wander 5 feet in front of you, that I do not agree with at all.

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I dunno I'm learning not to judge because I don't have kids and I really don't know. Just like people roll their eyes when we put coats on our Yorkies but we understand why it's necessary.

I mean, what if you have a totally ADHD kid who just can't walk perfectly next to you. Or a little kid who wants to walk on their own but can still be attached. I think as long as the kid isn't so old as to be embarrassed it's OK

I have watched my friend's 2 yr old a couple times who is like the best behaved kid EVER (i'd have one if i knew i'd get one like her, seriously) and she wanted goldfish crackers so I took her in the grocery store and she held my hand the whole time. I told her mom and she said she NEVER goes in the store without a cart even to get just 1 thing and she puts her in the cart. Makes sense (see, I'm not a parent so I don't think of this stuff in the same way!) but what if you just want to run in for 1 thing and don't want to get a cart? The leash totally makes sense!!!

Now those wheelie shoes - parents need to stop letting their kids wear THOSE to the grocery store!
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Just curious, what are "wheelie shoes?

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I dunno I'm learning not to judge because I don't have kids and I really don't know. Just like people roll their eyes when we put coats on our Yorkies but we understand why it's necessary.

I mean, what if you have a totally ADHD kid who just can't walk perfectly next to you. Or a little kid who wants to walk on their own but can still be attached. I think as long as the kid isn't so old as to be embarrassed it's OK

I have watched my friend's 2 yr old a couple times who is like the best behaved kid EVER (i'd have one if i knew i'd get one like her, seriously) and she wanted goldfish crackers so I took her in the grocery store and she held my hand the whole time. I told her mom and she said she NEVER goes in the store without a cart even to get just 1 thing and she puts her in the cart. Makes sense (see, I'm not a parent so I don't think of this stuff in the same way!) but what if you just want to run in for 1 thing and don't want to get a cart? The leash totally makes sense!!!

Now those wheelie shoes - parents need to stop letting their kids wear THOSE to the grocery store!
Those wheelie shoes, I think they're heelys. I CAN NOT stand those. If I counted the times I've been almost ran into (or should I say rolled into) by one of this kids... I'd have lots of money to buy my Yorkie everything she desires. Drives me nuts cuz they come out of nowhere to!
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Just curious, what are "wheelie shoes?

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They are called Heelys... although I think Skechers makes them too.
I found this on YouTube, a kid rolling around in the grocery store.

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I have not seen those before. Thanks for the video. In Canada you're not allowed to wear roller blades or use skateboards in the stores. I wonder if it applies to shoes that have wheels

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Now those wheelie shoes - parents need to stop letting their kids wear THOSE to the grocery store!
Alot of stores over here already did... I hate them In the supermarket once some kid was flying up and down lanes on them pushing a trolley!
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