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Betty'sMom · 08-16-2008, 04:37 AM

What a shame! Someone who has gone through SO much to try to discredit another...Try to do something nice today. Go visit friends, volunteer somewhere, go to an anger management class...

chachi · 08-16-2008, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mom2BabyNatalie

Okay.... here it is..... I PRAY that I am not hindering Emma's progress by doing this and getting banned or suspended from YT.... AND... I PROMISE that I will be stating this in THE UTMOST RESPECTFUL MANNER that I am able to muster.....

I'm calling you out........... the YT member who CONSTANTLY (despite ongoing "flagging" and removal) posts these horrendous accusations about me on a public message board.

This is a cowardly attempt at sabotaging our efforts to support this little girl.

For the life of me, I cannot understand your grudge with me.

Your statements are FALSE, UNFOUNDED, INVALIDATED and flat out CRUEL!!! Your actions are SLANDEROUS!!

And now you post the following on Emma's ireport page....

YorkiePI // 20 minutes ago
I seriously question the integrity of any site that would allow a person who has repeatedly scammed individuals to glorify their newest attempt in this manner.

Are you KIDDING ME????

Bring your PROOF to this board... to this thread... to the people who ARE IN SUPPORT OF EMMA........................ give them VALIDATION that what you are PUBLICALLY PREACHING is TRUTH..................................

When you are able to do that................... I will gracefully back out of this entire situation.... will place Emma with a rescue group.... withdraw from my membership to YT.... and publically apologize to any and all who have extended their hands and hearts to me and to Emma.

Until then....................... ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! PLEASE stop trying to break down what so many of us are trying to build in an attempt to help one tiny baby!!!!!!!!

Admin.... I honestly feel I am making these statements in a respectful, factual manner.... it is directed to ONE person.... is NOT an attack... and should be allowed to remain. Thank you!

I just wanted to let you know that even though I did have concerns about donations on here I am not the one posting on the CNN site. Its not my concern if Emma receives donations there and I wouldnt want to hinder a qualified vet from maybe seeing her story and helping her. My only concern with donations was on put on here so any new people would see it an thats where I left it. I wish you good luck though I am too hoping a qualified surgeon sees Emmas story

spr377 · 08-16-2008, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Please be very certain you know who it is before posting spectulations...innocent members can be hurt and a good forum can be destroyed so easily. Best wishes

I would never post the name of a "speculation".....for the very reason it could hurt the reputation of an innocent person, that is why I didn't say a name. I am just concerned about Emma and Dena and have their best interests at heart, just as most everyone in this thread.

KwiddyKat · 08-16-2008, 05:02 AM

Wow, so much has happened since last night! I'm glad the iReport is still up, or up again, or whatever! I gave all of Emma's links to my next door neighbor last night (she's been out of town since last Friday) because She has a female Chi as well and I'm sure she would totally get into this support system!

Just know little Emma, we are all here to watch you grow and be strong, carry you when you are weak, and do everything we can to make life that much better for you! Keep going lil punkin butt! We LOVE YOU!

JeanieK · 08-16-2008, 05:11 AM

I keep seeing comments about Dena being a scam artist, blah blah blah. I have no idea what Dena may or may not have done in the past. Frankly it doesn't concern me. This is not about Dena, it's about Emma, and getting her the help that she needs.

If it were me I would certainly appreciate donations, but I would pay for her care whether she got the donations or not.

Dena has made a commitment to Emma, and has now helped Emma to survive for 11 days. What would you have her do, just let her lay there now and starve. her eyes will soon be open, she is beyond the point of semi consciousness, and can feel Dena"s warm loving hands caring for her. There is no going back now. So if the entire thing bothers you, just don't read the thread and then it won't upset you.

You must be a very angry person to be so focused on one thing that is truely bothering you. I really feel bad for you for harboring so much anger. May God reach down and touch your heart as Emma has touched so many of ours. For I believe that we are all creatures of God and each one of us has a purpose, even Emma.

OK Stepping down.

SassyAnn101 · 08-16-2008, 05:16 AM

Does anyone know of any surgerons who are experienced with this? I live in east Tennessee, and the University of Tennessee is know for their speciality with Liver Shunts. Is there another hospital that specializes in this? Maybe if there is we could write letters, send e-mails, call, and beg if needed to get this little girl noticed, and get someone to help her. Just a thought, I will help out in any way I can.

linda44 · 08-16-2008, 06:08 AM

We have UC Davis, which is a Vet school out here in California, it would be nice to find something closer to Dena though.

ladyj · 08-16-2008, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SassyAnn101

Does anyone know of any surgerons who are experienced with this? I live in east Tennessee, and the University of Tennessee is know for their speciality with Liver Shunts. Is there another hospital that specializes in this? Maybe if there is we could write letters, send e-mails, call, and beg if needed to get this little girl noticed, and get someone to help her. Just a thought, I will help out in any way I can.

I live in east Tennessee, too, about 17 miles from Knoxville and the UT Vet School. It's a teaching hospital and state-of-the-art. I don't know if they "specialize" in mouth surgery, but I would bet they would do a great job with this little girl. I hope someone sees her story and steps forward to take care of her problem.

may · 08-16-2008, 06:25 AM

Dena, I'm so sorry that i once again missed so much. but please know that Saki and myself are here to support what you've done and will be doing for Baby Emma.

deanne · 08-16-2008, 06:51 AM

It really seems like a shame that Dena has to use any of energy to defend herself, (I'm not going to quote dena's remarks anyone that has been following this knows what I am referring to.)She is probably tired enough without having to come on YT and do so. regardless of how this person feels about Dena she is obviously taken the best care of emma that she can. I am mostly just a reader and not to much of a poster, but it is tiresome to me as well expecting to see updates and have to read thru negative comments. I just wish it would all end and I hope to someday see video of emma happily running around and eating on her own.

a2luckygirl · 08-16-2008, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SassyAnn101

Does anyone know of any surgerons who are experienced with this? I live in east Tennessee, and the University of Tennessee is know for their speciality with Liver Shunts. Is there another hospital that specializes in this? Maybe if there is we could write letters, send e-mails, call, and beg if needed to get this little girl noticed, and get someone to help her. Just a thought, I will help out in any way I can.

Mizzu has a vet teaching school that is suppose to be very good- I will see if I can get info from them for Dena!!(Missouri University)

It's about 35 miles from me!!

Wylie's Mom · 08-16-2008, 07:16 AM

If it were me taking care of this baby - I would contact what I think is THE best animal rescue organization/sanctuary in the United States: Best Friends Animal Society. They take in some of the worst horror stories around - they took in Michael Vick's dogs and rehabilitated them, they take in animals w/ deformities and/or horrendous injuries and bring them to health.

I am SURE they would know of a surgeon or referral for you. And who knows, maybe they would even pay the surgeon directly for Emma's surgery - without you having to surrender Emma. I had PMd you about Best Friends previously, but never heard back. They truly are incredible.

Mom2BabyNatalie · 08-16-2008, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

If it were me taking care of this baby - I would contact what I think is THE best animal rescue organization/sanctuary in the United States: Best Friends Animal Society. They take in some of the worst horror stories around - they took in Michael Vick's dogs and rehabilitated them, they take in animals w/ deformities and/or horrendous injuries and bring them to health.

I am SURE they would know of a surgeon or referral for you. And who knows, maybe they would even pay the surgeon directly for Emma's surgery - without you having to surrender Emma. I had PMd you about Best Friends previously, but never heard back. They truly are incredible.

Hi Ann,

I did send them some information early on about Emma and the video of her first bottle feeding. Then followed up with the newest video of Emma that is on youtube with an update.

I haven't yet tried to put a call into them, but that is the next step if I've not heard back soon.

I know that they have a stunning reputation and am hopeful for some solid direction and advice!

BamaFan121s · 08-16-2008, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by chachi

I just wanted to let you know that even though I did have concerns about donations on here I am not the one posting on the CNN site. Its not my concern if Emma receives donations there and I wouldnt want to hinder a qualified vet from maybe seeing her story and helping her. My only concern with donations was on put on here so any new people would see it an thats where I left it. I wish you good luck though I am too hoping a qualified surgeon sees Emmas story

I have to agree with you completely Chachi.

I think that everyone wants to see the Emma get only the best in care. I have yet anything that would suggest otherwise.

sammiz made some very good points in a post earlier and requested that discussions of 'concerns' be dropped from this thread so that its focus be returned to baby Emma, which is exactly what happened. Now all of a sudden issues from another site have been drug over here and the finger of blame is being pointed at YT members!?

I think at the point that people here are being accused of and blamed for what some nutter on another site is saying then it can be said that this situation has gotten way out of hand. I didn't think this thread should be closed either because so many did want to keep up w/ Emma's progress, but if the only thing that is going to be posted is a bunch of rants and outbursts and blaming other members for something, then maybe it should be.

Txgurl06 · 08-16-2008, 07:30 AM

I do not post much because of all the drama but i will say that posting crappy stuff on here is one thing but to do it on the CNN report you should be ashamed of yourselves.

I know where yall are getting at with the whole baby natalie thing. Im sorry if this offends you Dena but i must say it. With baby natalie we personally were giving donations blind. We could not see she was sick because it was on the inside. But i will say Rustys_mom (Angie) a beloved YT member did go see her and did confirm natalie was sick. I too had my doubts, not about natalie being sick mostly but just that after natalie passed Dena seemed like she had money. But with this baby you shouldnt even be questioning Dena. You can see the problems with Emma.

Maybe Dena shouldnt take on stuff like this if she doesnt have the money but she does and we would never turn down a different YTer for this. I would do the same thing that she is doing and im not rich either. There has been people on here a long time ago i remember that lost her dog and someone on YT gave her 2 puppies. I seen YT all form up and help this women maybe not through money but through flyers and ect. Did we actually know her dog was gone? im not questioning this person just proving a point.

I Do think at points we should be cautious but no one is going in blind on this one. IF the Cnn report does find someone to help Emma then Dena will have to hand over emma for them to fix her. So how is she fake? How are yall questioning her on this one?

Maybe Dena can give Beabble (sorry but your #1 fan) control of the paypal site so no money comes out except to help Emma. All she has to do is fax her papers of proof from the vet as to how much was needed and then beabble send her the money through paypal.

How can yall actually try to take Help away from Emma?

I did not say one thing offensive in here so if yall want to ban me then hop on it. I dont get on here that much anyways.

08-16-2008, 04:37 AM	#946
Betty'sMom Donating YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 6,234	What a shame! Someone who has gone through SO much to try to discredit another...Try to do something nice today. Go visit friends, volunteer somewhere, go to an anger management class... __________________ Jeanne: Mom to Betty & Juju Bean

08-16-2008, 05:16 AM	#951
SassyAnn101 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 647	Help for Baby Emma Does anyone know of any surgerons who are experienced with this? I live in east Tennessee, and the University of Tennessee is know for their speciality with Liver Shunts. Is there another hospital that specializes in this? Maybe if there is we could write letters, send e-mails, call, and beg if needed to get this little girl noticed, and get someone to help her. Just a thought, I will help out in any way I can. __________________ My Gang: Tanner,Trouble, Chip, Gus, Pee Wee,Haley, Razzle, & Pixie Rest In Peace My Sweet Gizmo & My Pretty Pretty Princess Tenci

08-16-2008, 07:16 AM	#957
Wylie's Mom Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 35,889 Blog Entries: 2	If it were me taking care of this baby - I would contact what I think is THE best animal rescue organization/sanctuary in the United States: Best Friends Animal Society. They take in some of the worst horror stories around - they took in Michael Vick's dogs and rehabilitated them, they take in animals w/ deformities and/or horrendous injuries and bring them to health. I am SURE they would know of a surgeon or referral for you. And who knows, maybe they would even pay the surgeon directly for Emma's surgery - without you having to surrender Emma. I had PMd you about Best Friends previously, but never heard back. They truly are incredible. __________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann \| Pfeiffer \| Marcel Verdel Purcell \| Wylie \| Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨°

08-16-2008, 07:30 AM	#960
Txgurl06 RIP Skoshi! Love You Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wichita falls,tx Posts: 3,383	Sorry I do not post much because of all the drama but i will say that posting crappy stuff on here is one thing but to do it on the CNN report you should be ashamed of yourselves. I know where yall are getting at with the whole baby natalie thing. Im sorry if this offends you Dena but i must say it. With baby natalie we personally were giving donations blind. We could not see she was sick because it was on the inside. But i will say Rustys_mom (Angie) a beloved YT member did go see her and did confirm natalie was sick. I too had my doubts, not about natalie being sick mostly but just that after natalie passed Dena seemed like she had money. But with this baby you shouldnt even be questioning Dena. You can see the problems with Emma. Maybe Dena shouldnt take on stuff like this if she doesnt have the money but she does and we would never turn down a different YTer for this. I would do the same thing that she is doing and im not rich either. There has been people on here a long time ago i remember that lost her dog and someone on YT gave her 2 puppies. I seen YT all form up and help this women maybe not through money but through flyers and ect. Did we actually know her dog was gone? im not questioning this person just proving a point. I Do think at points we should be cautious but no one is going in blind on this one. IF the Cnn report does find someone to help Emma then Dena will have to hand over emma for them to fix her. So how is she fake? How are yall questioning her on this one? Maybe Dena can give Beabble (sorry but your #1 fan) control of the paypal site so no money comes out except to help Emma. All she has to do is fax her papers of proof from the vet as to how much was needed and then beabble send her the money through paypal. How can yall actually try to take Help away from Emma? I did not say one thing offensive in here so if yall want to ban me then hop on it. I dont get on here that much anyways. __________________ To The"Coolest" Friend A Girl Could Have

08-16-2008, 05:02 AM	#949
KwiddyKat Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Richmond, Virginia, United States Posts: 17 Blog Entries: 1	Wow, so much has happened since last night! I'm glad the iReport is still up, or up again, or whatever! I gave all of Emma's links to my next door neighbor last night (she's been out of town since last Friday) because She has a female Chi as well and I'm sure she would totally get into this support system! Just know little Emma, we are all here to watch you grow and be strong, carry you when you are weak, and do everything we can to make life that much better for you! Keep going lil punkin butt! We LOVE YOU!

08-16-2008, 05:11 AM	#950
JeanieK Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa Posts: 12,552	I keep seeing comments about Dena being a scam artist, blah blah blah. I have no idea what Dena may or may not have done in the past. Frankly it doesn't concern me. This is not about Dena, it's about Emma, and getting her the help that she needs. If it were me I would certainly appreciate donations, but I would pay for her care whether she got the donations or not. Dena has made a commitment to Emma, and has now helped Emma to survive for 11 days. What would you have her do, just let her lay there now and starve. her eyes will soon be open, she is beyond the point of semi consciousness, and can feel Dena"s warm loving hands caring for her. There is no going back now. So if the entire thing bothers you, just don't read the thread and then it won't upset you. You must be a very angry person to be so focused on one thing that is truely bothering you. I really feel bad for you for harboring so much anger. May God reach down and touch your heart as Emma has touched so many of ours. For I believe that we are all creatures of God and each one of us has a purpose, even Emma. OK Stepping down.

08-16-2008, 06:08 AM	#952
linda44 Luv my 7 Furkids Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: napa Posts: 9,655 Blog Entries: 4	We have UC Davis, which is a Vet school out here in California, it would be nice to find something closer to Dena though.

08-16-2008, 06:25 AM	#954
may Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bermuda Posts: 62	Dena, I'm so sorry that i once again missed so much. but please know that Saki and myself are here to support what you've done and will be doing for Baby Emma.

08-16-2008, 06:51 AM	#955
deanne Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: DeMotte, Indiana Posts: 127	It really seems like a shame that Dena has to use any of energy to defend herself, (I'm not going to quote dena's remarks anyone that has been following this knows what I am referring to.)She is probably tired enough without having to come on YT and do so. regardless of how this person feels about Dena she is obviously taken the best care of emma that she can. I am mostly just a reader and not to much of a poster, but it is tiresome to me as well expecting to see updates and have to read thru negative comments. I just wish it would all end and I hope to someday see video of emma happily running around and eating on her own.