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Txgurl06 08-16-2008 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2185246)
I have to agree with you completely Chachi. :thumbup: I think that everyone wants to see the Emma get only the best in care. I have yet anything that would suggest otherwise.

sammiz made some very good points in a post earlier and requested that discussions of 'concerns' be dropped from this thread so that its focus be returned to baby Emma, which is exactly what happened. Now all of a sudden issues from another site have been drug over here and the finger of blame is being pointed at YT members!? :thumbdown I think at the point that people here are being accused of and blamed for what some nutter on another site is saying then it can be said that this situation has gotten way out of hand. I didn't think this thread should be closed either because so many did want to keep up w/ Emma's progress, but if the only thing that is going to be posted is a bunch of rants and outbursts and blaming other members for something, then maybe it should be. :(

YorkiePI sounds like a Yt name to me!!

BamaFan121s 08-16-2008 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Txgurl06 (Post 2185253)
YorkiePI sounds like a Yt name to me!!
It's not on the list of YT members...:confused:

Txgurl06 08-16-2008 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2185260)
It's not on the list of YT members...:confused:
OMG lol not specifically a YT name but someone from "Yorkie"talk

i dont see whats the reason to even post bad stuff on that site for anyways?

BamaFan121s 08-16-2008 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Txgurl06 (Post 2185262)
OMG lol not specifically a YT name but someone from "Yorkie"talk
Or someone who at least reads here and keeps up with it...

In any case, I don't think any accusations should be made here and afterall, that's not the claimed "point" of this thread, right?

Txgurl06 08-16-2008 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2185264)
Or someone who at least reads here and keeps up with it...
OKAY practically the same thing. Still is on or comes to this site!

linda44 08-16-2008 07:42 AM
careful. Keep it positive....about Emma. Speaking of...that lil bugger sure does move around alot....Your gonna have your hands even more full when she can see where shes going. ha ha

Mom2BabyNatalie 08-16-2008 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2185246)
I have to agree with you completely Chachi. :thumbup: I think that everyone wants to see the Emma get only the best in care. I have yet anything that would suggest otherwise.

sammiz made some very good points in a post earlier and requested that discussions of 'concerns' be dropped from this thread so that its focus be returned to baby Emma, which is exactly what happened. Now all of a sudden issues from another site have been drug over here and the finger of blame is being pointed at YT members!? :thumbdown I think at the point that people here are being accused of and blamed for what some nutter on another site is saying then it can be said that this situation has gotten way out of hand. I didn't think this thread should be closed either because so many did want to keep up w/ Emma's progress, but if the only thing that is going to be posted is a bunch of rants and outbursts and blaming other members for something, then maybe it should be. :(
I'm not up for arguing today... but the reason that we are well aware that the person who was posting on the CNN site is a YT member, is due to the fact that they originally posted direct quotes from this YT thread... as well, mention was made of Natalie's illness and donations received last year.

It wasn't difficult to recognize...

BamaFan121s 08-16-2008 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Mom2BabyNatalie (Post 2185277)
I'm not up for arguing today... but the reason that we are well aware that the person who was posting on the CNN site is a YT member, is due to the fact that they originally posted direct quotes from this YT thread... as well, mention was made of Natalie's illness and donations received last year.

It wasn't difficult to recognize...
You know, unlike some people here, I'm not going to blinding start accusing or blaming other people. I don't know what was 'quoted' because I never saw any of the comments here or on the ireports site...I guess they had all been deleted when I looked?:confused: But it's very silly to assume that only actual members here read here or even that they are the only ones who comment on things that go on here. We all know that knot to be the case and frequently see subjects on one board being discussed on the next. In any case, what some nutter said on some other site, does not IMO, warrant lashing out and accusing YT members of something.
How does THAT keep the focus on Emma, may I ask? That is the claimed point of this thread, is it not?

Wylie's Mom 08-16-2008 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Txgurl06 (Post 2185249)
Maybe Dena can give Beabble (sorry but your #1 fan) control of the paypal site so no money comes out except to help Emma. All she has to do is fax her papers of proof from the vet as to how much was needed and then beabble send her the money through paypal.
Personally, I think THIS IS the continental divide right here. It's the issue of personal donations. If donations were made directly to a vet, or a neutral third party - I think everyone would then be on the same page. The issue that is making others speak up so vehemently is that of personal donations. If you could put that issue to rest, Dena, I think you'd save yourself a world of pain - and have some peace. A neutral funds-holder would probably smooth a lot of feathers. :)

BamaFan121s 08-16-2008 07:57 AM
Ann--

The opotion and information has been added to send the money directly to the vet's office. But again, as soliciting for donations isn't allowed here, I don't think it's being made a widely known fact here...as it should be.

:)

Txgurl06 08-16-2008 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2185289)
Personally, I think THIS IS the continental divide right here. It's the issue of personal donations. If donations were made directly to a vet, or a neutral third party - I think everyone would then be on the same page. The issue that is making others speak up so vehemently is that of personal donations. If you could put that issue to rest, Dena, I think you'd save yourself a world of pain - and have some peace. A neutral funds-holder would probably smooth a lot of feathers. :)
glad you agree!

Txgurl06 08-16-2008 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2185285)
You know, unlike some people here, I'm not going to blinding start accusing or blaming other people. I don't know what was 'quoted' because I never saw any of the comments here or on the ireports site...I guess they had all been deleted when I looked?:confused: But it's very silly to assume that only actual members here read here or even that they are the only ones who comment on things that go on here. We all know that knot to be the case and frequently see subjects on one board being discussed on the next. In any case, what some nutter said on some other site, does not IMO, warrant lashing out and accusing YT members of something.
How does THAT keep the focus on Emma, may I ask? That is the claimed point of this thread, is it not?
did they accuse you? no lol so why does it bother you so much??? If people are calling out dena she has that same right? dont call us negative or rude for giving out opinions on who the poster is.


off to work now!

chachi 08-16-2008 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2185289)
Personally, I think THIS IS the continental divide right here. It's the issue of personal donations. If donations were made directly to a vet, or a neutral third party - I think everyone would then be on the same page. The issue that is making others speak up so vehemently is that of personal donations. If you could put that issue to rest, Dena, I think you'd save yourself a world of pain - and have some peace. A neutral funds-holder would probably smooth a lot of feathers. :)
:thumbup:I agree with you Ann. Thanks for sharing your wisdom and understanding

BamaFan121s 08-16-2008 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Txgurl06 (Post 2185300)
did they accuse you? no lol so why does it bother you so much??? If people are calling out dena she has that same right? dont call us negative or rude for giving out opinions on who the poster is.
The finger of blame was pointed at those who'd posted in this thread earlier, so yes, I feel like I have every right to be offended. Furthermore, I and others were called negative and rude for giving MY opinion earlier, well the door swings both ways. If I didn't then I would not have started posting again. I would have dropped the whole issue, considered it thoroughly hashed over already and let the focus return to Emma as sammiz requested earlier.

If all this is going to turn into is the blame game, which is clearly all it has been for the past several pages, then maybe this thread has run it's course.

Gizmo's Mom 08-16-2008 08:08 AM
Dena~How is the princess this morning? Sending a hug and a smile yer way :).

ace611 08-16-2008 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo's Mom (Post 2185310)
Dena~How is the princess this morning? Sending a hug and a smile yer way :).
:thumbup::D:thumbup:

a2luckygirl 08-16-2008 08:14 AM
well, that's a simple plan!:)

a2luckygirl 08-16-2008 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2185289)
Personally, I think THIS IS the continental divide right here. It's the issue of personal donations. If donations were made directly to a vet, or a neutral third party - I think everyone would then be on the same page. The issue that is making others speak up so vehemently is that of personal donations. If you could put that issue to rest, Dena, I think you'd save yourself a world of pain - and have some peace. A neutral funds-holder would probably smooth a lot of feathers. :)
really simple plan- to bad someone did not post this 30 pages ago! LOL!!

Mom2BabyNatalie 08-16-2008 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2185289)
Personally, I think THIS IS the continental divide right here. It's the issue of personal donations. If donations were made directly to a vet, or a neutral third party - I think everyone would then be on the same page. The issue that is making others speak up so vehemently is that of personal donations. If you could put that issue to rest, Dena, I think you'd save yourself a world of pain - and have some peace. A neutral funds-holder would probably smooth a lot of feathers. :)
Ann, I don't even WANT donations from YT..... I would be perfectly content to have this whole donation thing just go away!! Sending a gift to Emma is one thing... and we're happy to accept.... I told everyone and anyone who contacted me from the start, that wanted to send a financial donation - NOT TO.... to send a little something especially for Emma if they wanted to support her... (a blanket, a toy, etc.)

Finally at the urging of others, I agreed to accept the donations being offered.

THIS happened..... I decided to STOP donations and have any returned that had already been given..... that was done.....

Another upset... this time of the people who I so care about and value... this time of the people who had been called by their own hearts to help Emma... and feelings were hurt.

Again, at their urging.... I threw my hands up and told Tracy (Beabble) that the entire thing was in her hands. Accept or don't accept.... whatever she wanted to do... but I wanted nothing to do with the dealings of any of it.

I have NEVER had "control" in this aspect.... never wanted it! The paypal account is NOT mine... it's Tracy's.... she was kind enough to set it up when I was talking to some LOCAL folks here and they inquired as to where they could donate. The myspace page is NOT mine.... again, Tracy was kind enough to do that for Emma.

The new forum for Emma... is NOT mine.... this, a gift from Sammi....

I put together the youtube video.... and yes, at the end, I put information and links to the available contacts to help Emma.... because THIS IS WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN SUPPORT OF HER WANT!!!

To anyone else who has such "concerns".........

Do you (not directed at anyone in particular) think that the 400.00 (or close to that, give or take) that we received in donations towards Natalie's care last year - kept me from getting the 6,000.00 treatment she needed??? NO! People gave because they WANTED TO HELP... and help, they did.

I don't feel the need to continue to try to prove anything to anyone here.... I've never asked for a thing financially... merely did I post Emma's story in search of information and prayer... Emotional support... and friendship... and if you all (again, not directed to any one person) need written documentation and financial stats to extend yourselves to offer that.... frankly, I don't want it.....


Wylie's Mom 08-16-2008 08:22 AM
Note: there is no proof whatsoever that anyone from YT posted comments on any other site.

Anyone can come here and copy/paste information from threads, not just members. Please do not speculate about or accuse your fellow YT members. If you have questions, please see YT Rules and Guidelines.

a2luckygirl 08-16-2008 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ace611 (Post 2185316)
:thumbup::D:thumbup:

sorry off topic!!

But I love the last line in your siggy!!!!:D

BamaFan121s 08-16-2008 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by a2luckygirl (Post 2185334)
really simple plan- to bad someone did not post this 30 pages ago! LOL!!
It WAS suggested 30 pages ago...unfortunately the person who suggested it was criticized for it and accused of having other motives.:(
In any case, I'm glad to see the suggestion was headed.

ace611 08-16-2008 08:30 AM
thanks...just wanted to show Bella and I are rooting for lil Emma! yours is nice as well! i actually got the idea from you! haha

a2luckygirl 08-16-2008 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mom2BabyNatalie (Post 2185335)
Ann, I don't even WANT donations from YT..... I would be perfectly content to have this whole donation thing just go away!! Sending a gift to Emma is one thing... and we're happy to accept.... I told everyone and anyone who contacted me from the start, that wanted to send a financial donation - NOT TO.... to send a little something especially for Emma if they wanted to support her... (a blanket, a toy, etc.)

Finally at the urging of others, I agreed to accept the donations being offered.

THIS happened..... I decided to STOP donations and have any returned that had already been given..... that was done.....

Another upset... this time of the people who I so care about and value... this time of the people who had been called by their own hearts to help Emma... and feelings were hurt.

Again, at their urging.... I threw my hands up and told Tracy (Beabble) that the entire thing was in her hands. Accept or don't accept.... whatever she wanted to do... but I wanted nothing to do with the dealings of any of it.

I have NEVER had "control" in this aspect.... never wanted it! The paypal account is NOT mine... it's Tracy's.... she was kind enough to set it up when I was talking to some LOCAL folks here and they inquired as to where they could donate. The myspace page is NOT mine.... again, Tracy was kind enough to do that for Emma.

The new forum for Emma... is NOT mine.... this, a gift from Sammi....

I put together the youtube video.... and yes, at the end, I put information and links to the available contacts to help Emma.... because THIS IS WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN SUPPORT OF HER WANT!!!

To anyone else who has such "concerns".........

Do you (not directed at anyone in particular) think that the 400.00 (or close to that, give or take) that we received in donations towards Natalie's care last year - kept me from getting the 6,000.00 treatment she needed??? NO! People gave because they WANTED TO HELP... and help, they did.

I don't feel the need to continue to try to prove anything to anyone here.... I've never asked for a thing financially... merely did I post Emma's story in search of information and prayer... Emotional support... and friendship... and if you all (again, not directed to any one person) need written documentation and financial stats to extend yourselves to offer that.... frankly, I don't want it.....

I never worried about it going to you

all this,because someone made some bad assumptions!:(

chachi 08-16-2008 08:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mom2BabyNatalie (Post 2185335)
Ann, I don't even WANT donations from YT..... I would be perfectly content to have this whole donation thing just go away!! Sending a gift to Emma is one thing... and we're happy to accept.... I told everyone and anyone who contacted me from the start, that wanted to send a financial donation - NOT TO.... to send a little something especially for Emma if they wanted to support her... (a blanket, a toy, etc.)

Finally at the urging of others, I agreed to accept the donations being offered.

THIS happened..... I decided to STOP donations and have any returned that had already been given..... that was done.....

Another upset... this time of the people who I so care about and value... this time of the people who had been called by their own hearts to help Emma... and feelings were hurt.

Again, at their urging.... I threw my hands up and told Tracy (Beabble) that the entire thing was in her hands. Accept or don't accept.... whatever she wanted to do... but I wanted nothing to do with the dealings of any of it.

I have NEVER had "control" in this aspect.... never wanted it! The paypal account is NOT mine... it's Tracy's.... she was kind enough to set it up when I was talking to some LOCAL folks here and they inquired as to where they could donate. The myspace page is NOT mine.... again, Tracy was kind enough to do that for Emma.

The new forum for Emma... is NOT mine.... this, a gift from Sammi....

I put together the youtube video.... and yes, at the end, I put information and links to the available contacts to help Emma.... because THIS IS WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN SUPPORT OF HER WANT!!!

To anyone else who has such "concerns".........

Do you (not directed at anyone in particular) think that the 400.00 (or close to that, give or take) that we received in donations towards Natalie's care last year - kept me from getting the 6,000.00 treatment she needed??? NO! People gave because they WANTED TO HELP... and help, they did.

I don't feel the need to continue to try to prove anything to anyone here.... I've never asked for a thing financially... merely did I post Emma's story in search of information and prayer... Emotional support... and friendship... and if you all (again, not directed to any one person) need written documentation and financial stats to extend yourselves to offer that.... frankly, I don't want it.....

Dena the reason why anyone receiving donations get scrutinized is because there have been instances where people have gotten taken advantage of on here and from people that had heart wretching stories. This is just an online forum and anyone can say anything and by what process can it be screened?
Thats why I think it is best that the forum have the rules about the donations. Now like I said before if you get donations from another site and how they are collected/distributed to is no concern of mine

a2luckygirl 08-16-2008 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2185348)
It WAS suggested 30 pages ago...unfortunately the person who suggested it was criticized for it and accused of having other motives.:(
In any case, I'm glad to see the suggestion was headed.

sorry , misseed that one!

Mom2BabyNatalie 08-16-2008 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo's Mom (Post 2185310)
Dena~How is the princess this morning? Sending a hug and a smile yer way :).
Fat, happy and ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL!!!! :)

Beabble 08-16-2008 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2185293)
Ann--

The opotion and information has been added to send the money directly to the vet's office. But again, as soliciting for donations isn't allowed here, I don't think it's being made a widely known fact here...as it should be.

:)
Which is exactly why the info wasn't posted here. I have already spoken with the admin about it and was told no about what her and I discussed so I didn't put that info here. My hands were tied.... So, check out her My Space daily for any updates on things like that.

Mom2BabyNatalie 08-16-2008 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 2185359)
This is just an online forum and anyone can say anything and by what process can it be screened?
Oh I don't know........... maybe by the HOLE IN HER FACE???

Regardless..... doesn't matter..... some people are so distrusting that they feel even GOD is a threat to them.... (JMO: not personally directed)

Beabble 08-16-2008 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Txgurl06 (Post 2185249)
Maybe Dena can give Beabble (sorry but your #1 fan) control of the paypal site so no money comes out except to help Emma. All she has to do is fax her papers of proof from the vet as to how much was needed and then beabble send her the money through paypal.

How can yall actually try to take Help away from Emma?

I did not say one thing offensive in here so if yall want to ban me then hop on it. I dont get on here that much anyways.
Sorry to but in here, just wanted to let ya know that "Beabble, the 1# fan:D has been handling the PayPal account. Beabble is the one who set it up, and that's all I got to say about that, lol.


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