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TurtleDove 10-30-2007 07:26 PM

My boyfriend and I were together for 3 years before we got our first dog, Belle. He has allergies too, and didn't want a dog as well. But, I kept persuading him that I wanted a dog, and he eventually caved in. He was distant towards her at first, but he has learned to love her (those puppy kisses works wonders ;) ) We've been together for 5 years now, and recently got Ariel. He spoils them rotten! He has been truly converted to a dog lover :p

I say give your boyfriend some time ~ a lot can change from now till marriage. If your boyfriend truly loves you, he'll see that those dogs make you HAPPY, and that it's not fair of him to ask you to give up something that you love.

MyFairLacy 10-30-2007 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocoa's Momma (Post 1475382)
I can understand what you mean and its not that Kevin dislikes dogs he just dislikes them in the house. And lordy I know its another sin to have a dog outside but, I think if the dog is big enough, is given shelter, and heat in the winter and a shade in the summer then it is totally fine. He enjoys being around my dogs (except when Cocoa gets in his hyper fits, lol) and enjoys others dogs just would rather not have any in his house. And I can understand where he is coming from.

An outside dog may be provided its basic needs, but you'll be severely depriving it emotionally. Why would you want to do that to a dog? It would be like having a kid, providing the basic needs, but making it live away from the rest of the family. So, no, it is not totally fine to have an outside dog. Are you really going to spend hours every day with the dog outside?

I do have a question because you haven't really addressed this other than to say your boyfriend was okay with it after you got him. Knowing your boyfriend did not like dogs in the house and was not a "dog person", and you yourself not being a "dog person", what made you even get Cocoa in the first place? Was he an impulsive buy? I just can't imagine you thinking it through before buying him and then deciding to get him knowing you want to marry someone who doesn't want dogs. Did you talk to your boyfriend about buying a dog before you got him? Or did you just go out and buy him without consulting your "future husband"?

Also, I agree with what someone else said...seems like you've been trying to get rid of Cocoa a lot recently. I understood the being way too busy for him and wanting him to be in a better home. But now you are saying that there is a possibility that you'll have to rehome him in a few years anyway. Don't you think it would be better to rehome him now than to let him get more attached to you over the next few years? And poor Daisy...who knows what she went through before ending up in the shelter - already had such a hard life before you adopted her (which I do think it is great that you saved her). But now you might have to rehome her AGAIN in a few years. That poor dog...what a sad life to be thrown from home to home. And even if your boyfriend isn't mean to them, dogs are very smart - they KNOW when someone doesn't like them. Can you imagine having to live with someone that you know doesn't like you??? Either way, it's a sad situation that you've created for these poor dogs

YorkieShadow 10-30-2007 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocoa's Momma (Post 1475388)
YES, COCOA DOES GET ON MY MOM'S NERVES BUT, SHE WOULDN'T NOT TAKE CARE OF HIM IF I ASKED HER TO. YES, I DO HAVE HELP THREADS BECAUSE I WAS OVERWHELMED WITH SCHOOL, WORK, VOLUNTEERING AND TRYING TO TRAIN COCOA. I HAVE NOW GOTTEN SOME MORE TIPS AND AM WORKING ON DIFFERENT TECHNIQUES FOR TRAINING WHICH ARE WORKING WELL. I ALSO HAVE LOWERED MY VOLUNTEER TIME. AND NO, I DO NOT WANT TO GET RID OF HIM AND IF YOU WILL READ MY POSTS THAT IS CLEAR. NO ONE IS TAKING CARE OF HIM BUT, ME. HE IS SITTING RIGHT HERE BESIDE ME AT THIS MOMENT. HE WAS GOING TO GO TO KIM FOR TRAINING BUT, LIKE I SAID PLANS HAVE CHANGED. LIKE I ALREADY SAID MY BABIES ARE FINE AND TAKEN CARE OF BETTER THAN MOST KIDS. JUST BECAUSE I WAS HAVING A HARD TIME DOES NOT MAKE ME A BAD PARENT

You can get angry with me all you want. Your caps dont mean anything to me.I say it like I see it and I was only saying what you had said in your own threads. and then when someone says points it out you get all mad.

Help

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Ok, I need some advice please! I have a 9 month old Yorkie and my
boyfriend and family think I should sell him because I have been really
stressed since I got him but, I just can't seem to part with him. He is
a terror though! Let me list all of the problems I have right now and
see if anyone has had these problems and have solutions: not sleeping
throughout the night and barking loudly until I get up, tearing and
chewing up anything and everything, ripping apart his beds and toys,

pooping under the bed, peeing on the bed, going through my laundry,
biting my ankles and growling and biting my hands constantly, won't sit
still for even a minute, hyper hyper hyper! I'm a full time student,
work part time and volunteer part time at my local animal shelter. Any
advice is GREATLY appreciated. I love Cocoa to pieces and want things
to work out.
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-You have had this dog for 10 months , he should be trained by now.

Once again.....

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please look at my for sale ad. My price has gone down to $350. Thanks!
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10 mo. chocolate colored male for sale

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97277

Update

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If any of you recall I've been trying to find Cocoa a permanent home with someone who will be able to give him more time and attention than I can. I love him to pieces and hate to part with him but, after much consideration I know it will be in his best interest. I have been asking $500 but, now I've decided to go down to $400 in hopes that someone will be able to take him in. I would give him away to someone but, I've got college to pay for and atleast need to get back a little of what I paid for him. Please pass the word around! Thank you SO much for all of your help.

MyFairLacy 10-30-2007 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mizzwanned (Post 1475399)
I agree. I saw those threads about Cocoa for sale and i felt so bad for him. You wrote earlier in this thread that your mom isn't fond about you having them but she accepts it now so how do you know that she will keep them if you leave? It doesn't sound like she is too crazy about them. I think the best solution would be to rehome both the dogs now to great homes so that later down the road, 3-5 yrs later when you move out they won't be heartbroken. The move will be less hurtful on them while they are still young.

Is it really fair to your mom to make her keep your dogs for you when she doesn't really want them? Also not fair to the dogs, again, to live with someone who doesn't want them...

mizzwanned 10-30-2007 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocoa's Momma (Post 1475405)
I never said I was getting rid of them!!!!!!!!! I've been thinking of my options. My dogs are perfectly fine. Like I said earlier, I regret asking for advice SO much!

I'm srry i misunderstood. I figured if your mom isn't fond of them, and you said that your bf is first if you had to pick, and if anything you will pick him over them, then that leaves them going to new homes, right? I guess not but i just don't think it's right to leave them with your mom if anything cause she doesn't love them. Especially poor Cocoa. You said she is annoyed by his hyperness. That worries me because they all need love. Just becuase they are well cared for does not mean anything. They also need love and attention and your mom might not give them that. Is it just Cocoa she is annoyed by? You said Cocoa is really hyper and that annoys them. That is part of the Yorkie personality, some of them are like that. I have a male Teddy that gets really hyper whenever we have company, or whenever i come home, etc. So i know what you mean about being hyper but i love that. I feel bad for Cocoa:(

Cocoa's Momma 10-30-2007 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleDove (Post 1475412)
My boyfriend and I were together for 3 years before we got our first dog, Belle. He has allergies too, and didn't want a dog as well. But, I kept persuading him that I wanted a dog, and he eventually caved in. He was distant towards her at first, but he has learned to love her (those puppy kisses works wonders ;) ) We've been together for 5 years now, and recently got Ariel. He spoils them rotten! He has been truly converted to a dog lover :p

I say give your boyfriend some time ~ a lot can change from now till marriage. If your boyfriend truly loves you, he'll see that those dogs make you HAPPY, and that it's not fair of him to ask you to give up something that you love.

THANK YOU SO MUCH! Finally someone who has actually been in my situation! See, that is what I'm thinking is he will learn to love them. He is very sweet to them just doesn't exactly "love" them yet.

MyFairLacy 10-30-2007 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mizzwanned (Post 1475433)
I'm srry i misunderstood. I figured if your mom isn't fond of them, and you said that your bf is first if you had to pick, and if anything you will pick him over them, then that leaves them going to new homes, right? I guess not but i just don't think it's right to leave them with your mom if anything cause she doesn't love them. Especially poor Cocoa. You said she is annoyed by his hyperness. That worries me because they all need love. Is it just Cocoa your bf and mom get annoyed by? You said Cocoa is really hyper and that annoys them. That is part of the Yorkie personality, some of them are like that. I have a male Teddy that gets really hyper whenever we have company, or whenever i come home, etc. So i know what you mean about being hyper but i love that. I feel bad for Cocoa:(

I know...I Love when Lacy has her hyper moments too (not so much the barking...but the running around like crazy!). She just gets so excited and I love seeing how happy she is.

Just thinking more about your mom. My parents really don't like my cats being in their house when I visit. They're okay with the yorkies because they don't shed...but the cats shed a lot. They like the cats but don't want them in the house. When I visit I keep them enclosed in one part of the house because of this which is fine for the few weeks (and really just about as big as my whole house here). But I would never expect them to keep my cats permenantly for me if I couldn't keep them anymore because I know they don't want them

Cocoa's Momma 10-30-2007 07:38 PM

I'm done defending myself. I will never ask another question on this website.

MyFairLacy 10-30-2007 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocoa's Momma (Post 1475461)
I'm done defending myself. I will never ask another question on this website.

Okay...you asked advise on a Yorkie forum where we all LOVE our dogs. And you don't expect for several people to feel bad for the dogs because of the situation you've created? No one is saying you're a terrible person because you aren't...just that you created a bad situation for the dogs (and your boyfriend). But you really have to realize that we are all thinking about the best interest of the dogs which is why we aren't telling you what you want to hear.

mizzwanned 10-30-2007 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 1475430)

Help

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Ok, I need some advice please! I have a 9 month old Yorkie and my
boyfriend and family think I should sell him because I have been really
stressed since I got him but, I just can't seem to part with him. He is
a terror though! Let me list all of the problems I have right now and
see if anyone has had these problems and have solutions: not sleeping
throughout the night and barking loudly until I get up, tearing and
chewing up anything and everything, ripping apart his beds and toys,

pooping under the bed, peeing on the bed, going through my laundry,
biting my ankles and growling and biting my hands constantly, won't sit
still for even a minute, hyper hyper hyper! I'm a full time student,
work part time and volunteer part time at my local animal shelter. Any
advice is GREATLY appreciated. I love Cocoa to pieces and want things
to work out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
-You have had this dog for 10 months , he should be trained by now.

Once again.....

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

please look at my for sale ad. My price has gone down to $350. Thanks!
------------------------------------------------------------------------
10 mo. chocolate colored male for sale

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97277

Update

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If any of you recall I've been trying to find Cocoa a permanent home with someone who will be able to give him more time and attention than I can. I love him to pieces and hate to part with him but, after much consideration I know it will be in his best interest. I have been asking $500 but, now I've decided to go down to $400 in hopes that someone will be able to take him in. I would give him away to someone but, I've got college to pay for and atleast need to get back a little of what I paid for him. Please pass the word around! Thank you SO much for all of your help.

One of the reasons why Cocoa has all these problems is because he is asking for attention and doesn't have it to begin with. He is lacking training and something is missing. All he wants is love and the time it takes to discipline him to be the loving dog that you want him to be. You cannot change his hyperness though, that is his personality. Also some of the things he does like chewing up his toys, biting your ankles is just part of him being a puppy. He is only 9 months old and won't outgrow it yet. It takes time. Also is he neutered? I heard that can calm them down a little and make them less aggressive. The barking and ripping apart everything is just him wanting attention.

YorkieShadow 10-30-2007 07:46 PM

You don't have to defend your self, But when you took those babies in you made them your responsibility. If you decide not to keep them and your moms not fond of them why put them in that kind of situation? If you will be fine with out any dogs like you said in this thread, then why don't you just find those babies forever homes and think about them for a minute. They deserve a forever home. dogs are dogs they will be hyper from time to time. Cocoa's 10 months old and you say hes driving you crazy. and the Chi who knows what kind of life that poor baby has had. If you dont want them Ill take them both. thats how sorry I feel for them.

mizzwanned 10-30-2007 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocoa's Momma (Post 1475461)
I'm done defending myself. I will never ask another question on this website.

I'm sorry you felt attacked:( We all just really care about the dogs and were being honest. There are many good ppl here that give great advice, i hope you don't leave just cause one thread got out of hand in your opinion.

mizzwanned 10-30-2007 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1475455)
I know...I Love when Lacy has her hyper moments too (not so much the barking...but the running around like crazy!). She just gets so excited and I love seeing how happy she is.

Me 2. I love when Teddy is hyper. It makes me happy to see him running full speed back and forth for like 5 min straight lol and jumping all over me. He's just a very happy dog and it makes me happy to see him happy but i know not everyone likes hyper dogs. I guess i have one of each cause London is really lazy and spoiled and Sophie is in between lol She can get very hyper too tho when she wants:p

Cocoa's Momma 10-30-2007 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mizzwanned (Post 1475481)
One of the reasons why Cocoa has all these problems is because he is asking for attention and doesn't have it to begin with. He is lacking training and something is missing. All he wants is love and the time it takes to discipline him to be the loving dog that you want him to be. You cannot change his hyperness though, that is his personality. Also some of the things he does like chewing up his toys, biting your ankles is just part of him being a puppy. He is only 9 months old and won't outgrow it yet. It takes time. Also is he neutered? I heard that can calm them down a little and make them less aggressive. The barking and ripping apart everything is just him wanting attention.

Yes, I have realized that since that post and he doesn't have those "problems" anymore. He was going through his puppy stage and esp. since I got Daisy has calmed down.

Cocoa's Momma 10-30-2007 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 1475490)
You don't have to defend your self, But when you took those babies in you made them your responsibility. If you decide not to keep them and your moms not fond of them why put them in that kind of situation? If you will be fine with out any dogs like you said in this thread, then why don't you just find those babies forever homes and think about them for a minute. They deserve a forever home. dogs are dogs they will be hyper from time to time. Cocoa's 10 months old and you say hes driving you crazy. and the Chi who knows what kind of life that poor baby has had. If you dont want them Ill take them both. thats how sorry I feel for them.

I never said I didn't want them. I also never said I was getting rid of them. Just stating the options I do have. I understand you are just looking out for them but, trust me I am too.

MyFairLacy 10-30-2007 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mizzwanned (Post 1475516)
Me 2. I love when Teddy is hyper. It makes me happy to see him running full speed back and forth for like 5 min straight lol and jumping all over me. He's just a very happy dog and it makes me happy to see him happy but i know not everyone likes hyper dogs. I guess i have one of each cause London is really lazy and spoiled and Sophie is in between lol She can get very hyper too tho when she wants:p

Yeah, Lacy's really in between. Most of the time she's really calm and lazy a lot of the time. She sleeps a lot too. But then she'll have her really hyper moments. It's like two different dogs. I love it

MyFairLacy 10-30-2007 08:11 PM

Just wanted to post this question again since it hasn't been answered

I do have a question because you haven't really addressed this other than to say your boyfriend was okay with it after you got him. Knowing your boyfriend did not like dogs in the house and was not a "dog person", and you yourself not being a "dog person", what made you even get Cocoa in the first place? Was he an impulsive buy? I just can't imagine you thinking it through before buying him and then deciding to get him knowing you want to marry someone who doesn't want dogs. Did you talk to your boyfriend about buying a dog before you got him? Or did you just go out and buy him without consulting your "future husband"?

I'm not asking you to defend yourself...just actually curious about why you got him

Cocoa's Momma 10-30-2007 08:12 PM

I'm sorry I asked for help in the past if it offended you but, I have never owned a Yorkie before and yes I was very overwhelmed. I have been researching alot and have tried different techniques and am very satisfied with how well Cocoa is doing. I know that all of his "problems" were my fault and that is why I asked for help. I know a lot of people are very knowledgable on here and were very helpful.

Cocoa's Momma 10-30-2007 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1475560)
Just wanted to post this question again since it hasn't been answered

I do have a question because you haven't really addressed this other than to say your boyfriend was okay with it after you got him. Knowing your boyfriend did not like dogs in the house and was not a "dog person", and you yourself not being a "dog person", what made you even get Cocoa in the first place? Was he an impulsive buy? I just can't imagine you thinking it through before buying him and then deciding to get him knowing you want to marry someone who doesn't want dogs. Did you talk to your boyfriend about buying a dog before you got him? Or did you just go out and buy him without consulting your "future husband"?

I'm not asking you to defend yourself...just actually curious about why you got him

I didn't answer your question because anything and everything I say is the wrong thing to you and am tired of being belittled. I got Cocoa in the first place because I have always loved the Yorkie breed and found one I could actually afford. Kevin was not completely thrilled but, was fine with it. I do admit I didn't do all of the research I should have regarding training before I got him.

MyFairLacy 10-30-2007 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocoa's Momma (Post 1475568)
I didn't answer your question because anything and everything I say is the wrong thing to you and am tired of being belittled. I got Cocoa in the first place because I have always loved the Yorkie breed and found one I could actually afford. Kevin was not completely thrilled but, was fine with it. I do admit I didn't do all of the research I should have regarding training before I got him.

No one is belittling you. Just giving advise, opinions, and their own experience.

Cocoa's Momma 10-30-2007 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1475572)
No one is belittling you. Just giving advise, opinions, and their own experience.

Several times you and others have said I don't take care of my babies like they should be and I consider that belittling. Most of us are all strangers here and know nothing about how each other's dogs are taken care of. Mine are taken care of very well.

MyFairLacy 10-30-2007 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocoa's Momma (Post 1475576)
Several times you and others have said I don't take care of my babies like they should be and I consider that belittling. Most of us are all strangers here and know nothing about how each other's dogs are taken care of. Mine are taken care of very well.

No one ever said your dogs aren't being well taken care of. We're just worried about what will happen to the dogs once you get married...if they'll stay with you and still be spoiled and well taken care of, if they'll stay with you but be put on the backburner, or if they'll be rehomed...that's all. No one said you didn't take care of your dogs now.

Cocoa's Momma 10-30-2007 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1475581)
No one ever said your dogs aren't being well taken care of. We're just worried about what will happen to the dogs once you get married...if they'll stay with you and still be spoiled and well taken care of, if they'll stay with you but be put on the backburner, or if they'll be rehomed...that's all. No one said you didn't take care of your dogs now.

Oh ok....let's try to settle this and quit getting at one another's throats. Like I've tried to say several times I'm not getting rid of them and didn't say I was. I was just stating the options I do have. I couldn't bare parting with either one of them. Why do you think I was trying to sell him and now I'm not. I even had some offers to buy him and didn't accept. I just can't do that to him. (Him as in Cocoa). They will always be well taken care of and spoiled. What I was saying about my mom keeping them was IF and I repeat IF I had to get rid of them later down the road then she would take them in (along with my sister). I know they would be well taken care of and they love my mom and sister (ALMOST as much as me ;) I know deep down that Kevin would never ask me to get rid of them seriously (he wasn't being completely serious the other night just telling me what he would prefer) he loves me too much to force me to do something that he knows I wouldn't be happy doing. I started this post in hopes that others could relate to my situation and share their stories. Not be judgmental towards me.

MAN 11-01-2007 02:11 PM

From a MAN's point of view,,,,he'll fall in love with them....I wasn't much on dogs being in the house, but I like to keep the MRS happy and I gave in. And I'm betting he'll wanna do whatever it take to keep you happy too!!!!

RandomHeart 11-11-2007 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocoa's Momma (Post 1475138)
No, I want people to reply that have been in my shoes not those who say "I wouldn't be with anyone who didn't like my dogs" and such. I didn't ask should I stay with Kevin or not I asked for advice from those that have been in my situation.

I just found this thread. I was wondering how you resolved this dilemma?

I am getting a new puppy in a few weeks and my boyfriend said it was a great idea. I suppose I may have thought differently about it if it was going to be an issue and cause friction with us ...

but your question is a loaded one, because no one has an exact situation as yours. (Perhaps in a parallel universe???) and you do not seem to welcome suggestions or criticism.

Seems your mind is made up... you WILL have dogs whether or not your boyfriend says yes, and you WILL do what you want (and that just may turn out to be rehoming the Yorkie because you are having problems training him properly) and eventually you will be a martyr and make your boyfriend into the bad guy you had to give in to.....

does not appear to make for a great relationship.

I guess we all do what we have to (or simply want to) ...
good luck!


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