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Old 04-06-2012, 03:23 PM   #31
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Duncan; there are a series of specific tests both the male and female should have done prior to breeding.

Not all show dogs are weak, namby pamby's; mine certainly isn't. He has no problems keeping up on hikes with our big 100+ pound dogs. He swims, dock dives, hikes, does obedience and rally. He also happens to be a Grand Champion as well.
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Old 04-06-2012, 05:13 PM   #32
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Am i in the wrong?

Yes you are? Why does she need to know what it is like to be a Mother?
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Old 04-06-2012, 11:27 PM   #33
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I purchased her from a shady store. Im working in finding out her true lineage now, i have never met her parents, but i have her so called " paperwork" . Im not sure if it is falsified or not, but the vet told me that she is a perfect image of health and she should make a great dam
If you purchased her from a shady store, she most likely unfortunately came from a puppy mill. Her parents are still probably suffering in their cages in that horrid puppy mill she came from. Even tho your vet gave her a clean bill of health, you have no idea what kind of faults/illnesses her line carries...i.e. hernias, liver shunts, lp, open fontanel, those are only a few.
But she's already w/a male...hope they didn't tie & you have more time to think things over.
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Old 04-06-2012, 11:31 PM   #34
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That is a great i dea. Thank you i will look for a breeder in my area today, im sure that they will be able to tell me everythin that i need to know, because its easy to read what to do but to accualy do it is a completly different story, again thank you, and i think that i am glad to be a member of the yorkie talk community
Do you know about AAI, Chiari, LP, LS as these are some things you could be passing on to the pups & potential owners as you don't really know her history & is why it would be best to just spay your girl & be happy with her as I am sure you would not want to create pups that could possibly have any of these conditions & it is highly likely that your girl could throw pups with 1 or more of these conditions, even if she shows No signs herself. Not knowing her genetic background basically means you are playing russian roulette with her pups.
Please don't think it can't happen as we see these things here on YT all of the time.
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I see you've already gotten some good advice and was just wondering something. In one of your posts, you said you wanted a boy puppy. What happens if she has all girls (it does happen)? Would you then breed her again, trying for that boy? For what it really costs to raise a healthy litter, you could buy a very nice quality boy puppy from a reputable breeder.

I bought my Luna from a pet store and she's from a puppymill. There's a website where they'll trace your puppy and tell you where they came from. PetShopPuppies.com, they found the mill where my baby had her rough start. She's got LP, seriously jacked up teeth, and has always been delicate. Please think before you do this
No thats harsh. Its not that serious
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If i uploaded a picture of her i think you guys would understand why i want ger to be a mother. she looks like she was born to give birth, the vet feels the same way she said it repeatedly. I understand there is risk involved but i know she will be ok. Every dog needs love big or small, and thats what i give her i appreciate the concern thank you for your help
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well, survey says??
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the vet feels the same way she said it repeatedly

Find a new vet quick
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No thats harsh. Its not that serious
How is anything I said in that post HARSH? Seriously! I shared what I found out about my pet store baby so maybe you could have your baby's lineage traced. If you got her from a pet store, then she IS from a puppymill, no matter what the store says. Some of them say they get them from local breeders, but no reputable breeder would sell to a pet store. They place their puppies individually, after careful screening and consideration.

You may find the following harsh, but I don't mean it to be, AND it's the truth. I've seen and learned so much from all the experienced Yorkie owners and breeders since joining in 2006.

There's no telling what congenital problems she might pass on to any offspring, anything from heart problems to legg-perthes disease (they have to surgically remove the hip bone for that one!) Quite a few of these conditions don't even show themselves for a few years, so just because your baby is the picture of health now, does not mean it will always be so (and I sincerely hope that she remains perfect)

The members here care about your girl and the breed itself. We all hate the tragic stories of unexperienced folks losing their bitch and the puppies (or having to hand raise surviving pups because Mommy didn't make it, forget sleep!). There have been a few times when a very experienced breeder has had bad things happen with a whelp, and having some knowledge and experience helped them keep things from getting worse. These same issues arising mid-whelp, with an inexperienced breeder, could end very badly Toy breeds seem to need intervention regularly with the whelp, as they are small and so domesticated that they don't all have the natural instinct. Puppies also can grow too large and need to be birthed surgically.

Hey, I thought I wanted to show and breed at one time, too, until I joined here and got an eyeful of all the testing, money, time, work, and sometimes tragedy that comes along with breeding. Not to mention the work and costs involved in the show ring! I changed my mind REAL quick I don't have the stomach or the resources for it, so I leave it to those who dedicate their lives to this wonderful breed

Your little girl is absolutely precious Please look deep into those little eyes and really think about this, okay? If after you read the whole breeding section, you still want to breed, and do it properly, then you'll know where to begin.

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Well, I just now noticed that you are no longer a member. That's really too bad, there is much to learn here and everyone here cares! I hope that you'll come back when you've had a chance to think about all the advice you've gotten here and realize that everyone has the best intentions.
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Well said.... It's nice to see that there are members who can get their point across without being nasty. I commend you for kepping it real and classy at the same time.

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How is anything I said in that post HARSH? Seriously! I shared what I found out about my pet store baby so maybe you could have your baby's lineage traced. If you got her from a pet store, then she IS from a puppymill, no matter what the store says. Some of them say they get them from local breeders, but no reputable breeder would sell to a pet store. They place their puppies individually, after careful screening and consideration.

You may find the following harsh, but I don't mean it to be, AND it's the truth. I've seen and learned so much from all the experienced Yorkie owners and breeders since joining in 2006.

There's no telling what congenital problems she might pass on to any offspring, anything from heart problems to legg-perthes disease (they have to surgically remove the hip bone for that one!) Quite a few of these conditions don't even show themselves for a few years, so just because your baby is the picture of health now, does not mean it will always be so (and I sincerely hope that she remains perfect)

The members here care about your girl and the breed itself. We all hate the tragic stories of unexperienced folks losing their bitch and the puppies (or having to hand raise surviving pups because Mommy didn't make it, forget sleep!). There have been a few times when a very experienced breeder has had bad things happen with a whelp, and having some knowledge and experience helped them keep things from getting worse. These same issues arising mid-whelp, with an inexperienced breeder, could end very badly Toy breeds seem to need intervention regularly with the whelp, as they are small and so domesticated that they don't all have the natural instinct. Puppies also can grow too large and need to be birthed surgically.

Hey, I thought I wanted to show and breed at one time, too, until I joined here and got an eyeful of all the testing, money, time, work, and sometimes tragedy that comes along with breeding. Not to mention the work and costs involved in the show ring! I changed my mind REAL quick I don't have the stomach or the resources for it, so I leave it to those who dedicate their lives to this wonderful breed

Your little girl is absolutely precious Please look deep into those little eyes and really think about this, okay? If after you read the whole breeding section, you still want to breed, and do it properly, then you'll know where to begin.

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Well said.... It's nice to see that there are members who can get their point across without being nasty. I commend you for kepping it real and classy at the same time.
Aw thanks This member is "no longer a member" though so probably won't even read it
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Aw thanks This member is "no longer a member" though so probably won't even read it
But other people will read it
Wonder if the op was a fake?
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Wonder if the op was a fake?
Honestly, I hope so, because if not, that little girl could be in trouble
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