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alexbnieto · 10-04-2007, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erin

There's no way that is a last resort. My trainer would NEVER advise anyone do that. I've trained with her from puppy all the way through advanced with Loki and I'm starting over again with Sammy. Did you find a positive reinforcement trainer or a trained animal behaviorist?

It's basic conditioning. You teach the dog that taking something away from him is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing. You can phase out the reward if you want. There is science behind it.

Of course Yorkies aren't stupid. Loki will "fetch" socks and bring them to me and spit them out thinking he will get a treat for it. Who cares? I don't leave anything dangerous around and if you just ignore them they will stop doing it because it's no fun anymore.

As a matter of fact we did get a personal behaviorist trainer for Bruin during the first few weeks of correction. She didn't really help at all (she did everything right too as you explain it, Bruin just wanted it his way). Sometimes the unconventional works. Like Erin said, some dogs do this other do not. It's not a matter of a bad owner or trainer. And i agree with Erin about sometimes needing to treat them like the dogs they are. All my intention was to share what i did and its unconventional correction.

Yorkiekids · 10-04-2007, 12:38 PM

You really have to stop this behavior right away, even if it means taking all his things away. He needs to learn the drop and leave it command. Have they taken him for any formal training. Sounds like he's trying to be the Alpha in the house.

ketters12 · 10-04-2007, 12:48 PM

Wow, I hope this doesn't start happening with Tobey- he is also 10 months old. He steals things he knows he is not supposed to have and then darts around as we chase him until we get him cornered then he drops it and hangs his head. If he started being aggressive It would take me totally by surprise like it did your daughter. They are doing a lot of things right- I also make tobey do a "sit" or "down" before he gets a toy, treat, food, or let outside into the backyard to play. I feel like I have done a good job establishing that I am the boss, not him, but it seems like this behavior with your daugther's dog was unexpected when they were trying to do everything right. You've gotten some good advice- i don't know about trying to pretend like you are a dog, but the drop it command is one that we've been working on for MONTHS!! he's a quick learner in every command except that one. Good luck!

Erin · 10-04-2007, 01:00 PM

Here is a great article that explains it far better than I can. There is also a book out there called "Mine!" that is really good.

http://www.clickersolutions.com/arti...ctguarding.htm

alexbnieto I don't mean to pick on you. I've just seen how the wrong type of dog can react to that type of correction. It's just too dangerous. A lady in puppy class with us had to put her first dog down because it object guarded and she was told by a trainer to use corrections for it. Many dogs guard because they fear you will take their stuff. By using a physical correction, they learn that their fear is justified! Sadly, her dog got worse, not better.

alexbnieto · 10-04-2007, 02:53 PM

everyone has an opinion about method of correction, thats what these posts are for. fortunately, through those experiences, Bruin did not become scared of me, nor did i reinfornce his thinking im going to be physical for no reason. anyway, that was 6 months ago and all is a-ok now

great conversations here!

myboy · 10-04-2007, 07:08 PM

That is good advise. Thanks for reminding me of picking up a toy or snack. I would be scared to death if Deiter would start that. So Thank you to everybody for all the tips to keep him happy, and how to share.

ARCHIE · 10-05-2007, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erin

Here is a great article that explains it far better than I can. There is also a book out there called "Mine!" that is really good.

http://www.clickersolutions.com/arti...ctguarding.htm

alexbnieto I don't mean to pick on you. I've just seen how the wrong type of dog can react to that type of correction. It's just too dangerous. A lady in puppy class with us had to put her first dog down because it object guarded and she was told by a trainer to use corrections for it. Many dogs guard because they fear you will take their stuff. By using a physical correction, they learn that their fear is justified! Sadly, her dog got worse, not better.

I read that article a long time ago when I did some research into this
problem. It was very helpful.
Thanks for posting it again.

10-04-2007, 12:38 PM	#17
Yorkiekids Piper & Sebastian Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: florida Posts: 14,495	You really have to stop this behavior right away, even if it means taking all his things away. He needs to learn the drop and leave it command. Have they taken him for any formal training. Sounds like he's trying to be the Alpha in the house. __________________ Susan, Piper ,Harley & Suiki

10-04-2007, 12:48 PM	#18
ketters12 YT Addict Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 251	Wow, I hope this doesn't start happening with Tobey- he is also 10 months old. He steals things he knows he is not supposed to have and then darts around as we chase him until we get him cornered then he drops it and hangs his head. If he started being aggressive It would take me totally by surprise like it did your daughter. They are doing a lot of things right- I also make tobey do a "sit" or "down" before he gets a toy, treat, food, or let outside into the backyard to play. I feel like I have done a good job establishing that I am the boss, not him, but it seems like this behavior with your daugther's dog was unexpected when they were trying to do everything right. You've gotten some good advice- i don't know about trying to pretend like you are a dog, but the drop it command is one that we've been working on for MONTHS!! he's a quick learner in every command except that one. Good luck! __________________ Karena Tobey's mommy (otherwise known as "pumpkin pants" )

10-04-2007, 01:00 PM	#19
Erin Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 3,306	Here is a great article that explains it far better than I can. There is also a book out there called "Mine!" that is really good. http://www.clickersolutions.com/arti...ctguarding.htm alexbnieto I don't mean to pick on you. I've just seen how the wrong type of dog can react to that type of correction. It's just too dangerous. A lady in puppy class with us had to put her first dog down because it object guarded and she was told by a trainer to use corrections for it. Many dogs guard because they fear you will take their stuff. By using a physical correction, they learn that their fear is justified! Sadly, her dog got worse, not better. __________________ Erin, Sammy & Loki Sewing patterns and tutorials @ www.dogundermydesk.com

10-04-2007, 07:08 PM	#21
myboy Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,416	That is good advise. Thanks for reminding me of picking up a toy or snack. I would be scared to death if Deiter would start that. So Thank you to everybody for all the tips to keep him happy, and how to share. __________________ Deiter, Cozmo & Lynda Yorkie say I Love You with there tail. Deiter says Kalina Last edited by myboy; 10-04-2007 at 07:10 PM.

10-04-2007, 02:53 PM	#20
alexbnieto Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: san diego Posts: 34	everyone has an opinion about method of correction, thats what these posts are for. fortunately, through those experiences, Bruin did not become scared of me, nor did i reinfornce his thinking im going to be physical for no reason. anyway, that was 6 months ago and all is a-ok now great conversations here!