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Old 08-05-2007, 04:26 PM   #1
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I HAVE A 20 MONTH OLD YORKIEHUAHUA, SHE LOOKS MORE LIKE A YORKIE WITH BIG EARS. SHE'S ONLY THREE- lbs. AND HAS THE BIGGEST HEART. HER GRANDMOTHER WAS TOY YORKIE AND GRANDFATHER IS CHIHUAHUA, BUT VERY SMALL.... I'D LIKE TO MATE HER WITH A TOY YORKIE THAT IS FULL GROWN WEIGHS NO MORE THAN HER (3LBS), NO PAPERS ARE NEEDED... SHE'S COMING INTO HER THIRD HEAT THIS MONTH OF AUGUST, WHICH I'D LIKE TO SKIP, AND GET HER READY FOR HER NEXT HEAT IN FEBUARY OF 08... SHE NEEDS TO GET CHECKED OUT PRYOR BY OUR VET, BUT I'D LIKE TO GET A PUPPY OFF OF HER... I WILL PAY FOR STUD SERVICE BECAUSE SHE WAS ONLY ONE BORN OF THE LITTER HER MOTHER HAD SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY PUPS SHE'LL HAVE... HER MOTHER HAD A SECOND LITTER OF THREE. IF THERES ANYBODY CLOSE TO OR AROUND THE HARBOR AREA OF CALI, PLEASE E-MAIL ME BEFORE 2008.
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She sounds to small to breed. The size of the male does not always reflect the size of the pups. You have to look at the bloodlines & the size of the grandparents.
Also most Yorkie breeders are trying to inprove the standard so will not breed to anything else.
Sorry, don't mean to sound so negative. LMO.
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I breed my first Yorkie, Duke to my sisters CHIHUAHUA. She is due to deliver around the 23rd of this month. I was calling them "Chorkies"
I lost Duke during the time we were breeding and wasn't sure it "Took" but I guess it did. I'm not sure now if I can let go of any of his pups, since he is now gone.
If you find a little one to breed to good luck and show us pictures. I'll post mine after they arrive.
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Please don't breed a 3.5lb female. She is too small to be bred and she may die. Also, please don't breed mixed breed dogs. There are enough dogs in the shelter as it is right now. Please have her spayed and let her be your baby. Don't put her through the high risk of pregnancy being so small.
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Thanks So Much For The Quick Response!!!... I Thought That Might Be A Problem With Her Size... I'm Gonna Have Her Checked Out Totally For Sure Before Doing Anything... I Don't Need Something That Bad As To Hurt Her...is It Possible To Find Something Her Size Or Smaller Or Not At All...? I Appreciate All Of Your Comments... I Will Stay Positive, But I Understand If Its Not Possible...i Enjoy Reading All Of Your Comments... Live On Yorkies!!!!
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I would never recommend breeding a 3 lb female. You will be putting her at such a high risk pregnancy and even death trying to give birth to puppies. Its best to have her spayed and keep her as a pet only IMO.
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You could just buy another puppy or look on www.petfinder.com
I cannot believe how many yorkie and chi puppies and adults are in need of a home. You might give that a shot...
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your probably right... she is very small... all my family and friends will understand... soooo many want a little bit of her... but they'll have to wait for something else, thanks for the info of where to look...
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I put flyers up to look for a stud
I got a good response.. and I live in a small town
Sounds like you are takeing the right steps about this
I do understand wanting a baby from your baby
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male can be very small (which is already not good following standard, btw), but you must know his bloodlines since he can make BIG puppies. Size no matter. females less that 5 pounds and more that appx 6.5 are NOT recommended for breeding
Plus, so many mixed breed in shelter .
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Are you aware that FIFTEEN MILLION animals were put to death in American shelters last year? Animals sentenced to die simply for the crime of being born in an overpopulated world. Some of us (such as myself) who work in animal sheltering and rescue, see this needless death every single day of the year. Purebred, mixed breed, it makes no difference... all are euthanized. Twenty five to forty percent of the dogs area shelters take in are purebred, and roughly twenty five percent of all dogs euthanized are purebred. The remainder are perfectly good, healthy, mixed breed dogs. Not a thing in the world wrong with them. And yet they are destroyed, each and every day, in staggering numbers. It tends to make those of us working in these fields a little militant about breeding.

Does that mean all of us are anti-breeding? No, of course not. Those of us with more than a spoonful of common sense realize that responsible breeding is vital to ensuring the continuation of breeds and sound, healthy bloodlines. The key, however, is RESPONSIBLE breeding. That means no intentional breeding of mixed breed dogs. That means no breeding for profit. That means no breeding of animals out of standard. That means no breeding of untested pets... both health testing and behavior testing. That means not intentionally breeding for pet quality animals.

The best breeding always results in some pet quality animals as well as the hoped-for show and competition animals. Breed for a PURPOSE.

You want to breed Chesapeake Retrievers? Fantastic! But breed them to either competition or field standards. You want to breed Cocker Spaniels? GREAT! But breed them to be gun dogs, to be the single best representation of the breed. Breed them the way they're supposed to be bred... not to simply fill some niche in a market that needn't exist.

If you want to breed Chihuahuas, breed Chihuahuas... but don't try to create some 2.5 pound, deer headed neurotic monstrosity just so some Paris Hilton-wannabe can carry it around in her purse until she loses interest in it. Don't breed "teacup" dogs. They don't exist. Period. They are simply runts with a clever name.
Don't breed Labradoodles. It's not a breed. They aren't hypoallergenic. Ditto for any other poodle-oodle-doodle mix. They aren't breeds... they are cleverly named marketing ploys.

They are, in reality, mutts... and millions upon millions of mutts are put to death in American shelters every year. Thousands every day.

Unless you are breeding the highest caliber of dogs, unless you are responsibly breeding purebreeds, breeding for purpose, tracing pedigrees and paying attention to genetics, unless you are breeding in conformance with REAL kennel club standards (and this doesn't mean CKC or APRI or any of the other illegitimate registries... UKC and AKC are the primary ones here in the US... most others service mills and bad breeders), unless you are planning litters MONTHS in advance, and have potential adopters lined up before conception occurs, DON'T BREED.

Don't think this applies just to dogs. More cats are killed annually in America than dogs. Summertime in American shelters is pure hell. It is Kitten Season. Cats are seasonal breeders. Queens come into season and breed in the spring, and May through November, the offspring POUR into the shelters. Thousands each day into Western Washington shelters alone... seven days a week. There is simply no way we can find homes for all of them. Hell, we're lucky to find homes for HALF of them. The other half wind up dead... laying on the killing room floor with the gleam of life fading from their eyes. SPAY OR NEUTER, PEOPLE! Unless you've got CFA Championship cats, SPAY OR NEUTER. There is absolutely no need to allow your animals to reproduce. Trust me, there are far too many doing that on a daily basis. Shelters nationwide are full to overflowing... and the blood of innocents is stilled each and every day. Tens of thousands of animals forfeit their lives for the crime of being born. And it is due entirely to human selfishness or ignorance.

Believe me, I know. I see it, seven days a week. I'm the guy holding the needle. I am the death-bringer at a Western Washington shelter. Each and every morning, I get to start my day by injecting somnolent death into the veins of the Puget Sound's unwanted animals. Every single day, forced to clean up the messes of others via euthanasia. Nothing would make me happier than to go into work tomorrow and have no surplus animals to euthanize... but the sad reality is that euthanasia will ALWAYS be necessary, simply because people will ALWAYS treat their pets as property and a means of income. People will ALWAYS continue to breed irresponsibly. But please, do your part. Spay or neuter your pets. If you want to breed, pleasee make sure your animal DESERVES to have it's genetics carried on into a new generation. Breeding is not a right, but a responsibility. It is a job, and it takes effort to do it right. The penalty for doing it wrong just means a continuation of the endless cycle of death.

BREED RESPONSIBLY, or DON'T BREED! Any questions?

PS: I like this letter and completely agree with every word, but I don't know the author.

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Are you aware that FIFTEEN MILLION animals were put to death in American shelters last year? Animals sentenced to die simply for the crime of being born in an overpopulated world. Some of us (such as myself) who work in animal sheltering and rescue, see this needless death every single day of the year. Purebred, mixed breed, it makes no difference... all are euthanized. Twenty five to forty percent of the dogs area shelters take in are purebred, and roughly twenty five percent of all dogs euthanized are purebred. The remainder are perfectly good, healthy, mixed breed dogs. Not a thing in the world wrong with them. And yet they are destroyed, each and every day, in staggering numbers. It tends to make those of us working in these fields a little militant about breeding.

Does that mean all of us are anti-breeding? No, of course not. Those of us with more than a spoonful of common sense realize that responsible breeding is vital to ensuring the continuation of breeds and sound, healthy bloodlines. The key, however, is RESPONSIBLE breeding. That means no intentional breeding of mixed breed dogs. That means no breeding for profit. That means no breeding of animals out of standard. That means no breeding of untested pets... both health testing and behavior testing. That means not intentionally breeding for pet quality animals.

The best breeding always results in some pet quality animals as well as the hoped-for show and competition animals. Breed for a PURPOSE.

You want to breed Chesapeake Retrievers? Fantastic! But breed them to either competition or field standards. You want to breed Cocker Spaniels? GREAT! But breed them to be gun dogs, to be the single best representation of the breed. Breed them the way they're supposed to be bred... not to simply fill some niche in a market that needn't exist.

If you want to breed Chihuahuas, breed Chihuahuas... but don't try to create some 2.5 pound, deer headed neurotic monstrosity just so some Paris Hilton-wannabe can carry it around in her purse until she loses interest in it. Don't breed "teacup" dogs. They don't exist. Period. They are simply runts with a clever name.
Don't breed Labradoodles. It's not a breed. They aren't hypoallergenic. Ditto for any other poodle-oodle-doodle mix. They aren't breeds... they are cleverly named marketing ploys.

They are, in reality, mutts... and millions upon millions of mutts are put to death in American shelters every year. Thousands every day.

Unless you are breeding the highest caliber of dogs, unless you are responsibly breeding purebreeds, breeding for purpose, tracing pedigrees and paying attention to genetics, unless you are breeding in conformance with REAL kennel club standards (and this doesn't mean CKC or APRI or any of the other illegitimate registries... UKC and AKC are the primary ones here in the US... most others service mills and bad breeders), unless you are planning litters MONTHS in advance, and have potential adopters lined up before conception occurs, DON'T BREED.

Don't think this applies just to dogs. More cats are killed annually in America than dogs. Summertime in American shelters is pure hell. It is Kitten Season. Cats are seasonal breeders. Queens come into season and breed in the spring, and May through November, the offspring POUR into the shelters. Thousands each day into Western Washington shelters alone... seven days a week. There is simply no way we can find homes for all of them. Hell, we're lucky to find homes for HALF of them. The other half wind up dead... laying on the killing room floor with the gleam of life fading from their eyes. SPAY OR NEUTER, PEOPLE! Unless you've got CFA Championship cats, SPAY OR NEUTER. There is absolutely no need to allow your animals to reproduce. Trust me, there are far too many doing that on a daily basis. Shelters nationwide are full to overflowing... and the blood of innocents is stilled each and every day. Tens of thousands of animals forfeit their lives for the crime of being born. And it is due entirely to human selfishness or ignorance.

Believe me, I know. I see it, seven days a week. I'm the guy holding the needle. I am the death-bringer at a Western Washington shelter. Each and every morning, I get to start my day by injecting somnolent death into the veins of the Puget Sound's unwanted animals. Every single day, forced to clean up the messes of others via euthanasia. Nothing would make me happier than to go into work tomorrow and have no surplus animals to euthanize... but the sad reality is that euthanasia will ALWAYS be necessary, simply because people will ALWAYS treat their pets as property and a means of income. People will ALWAYS continue to breed irresponsibly. But please, do your part. Spay or neuter your pets. If you want to breed, pleasee make sure your animal DESERVES to have it's genetics carried on into a new generation. Breeding is not a right, but a responsibility. It is a job, and it takes effort to do it right. The penalty for doing it wrong just means a continuation of the endless cycle of death.

BREED RESPONSIBLY, or DON'T BREED! Any questions?

PS: I like this letter and completely agree with every word, but I don't know the author.
I AM GONNA BREED RESPONSIBLY, THATS WHY I'M LOOKING 6MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME IF THE VETS SAYS SHE'S FINE AND I KNOW WHERE HER BABIES ARE GONNA GO, IF SHE HAS ENOUGH...I WOULD NEVER BUY FROM A BREEDER BECAUSE OF TH FACT THAT ALOT OF SHELTERS ARE EUTHANIZING... I KNOW FOR A FACT WHEN LOOKING FOR MY BUDDY THAT THE SHELTERS RE IN THE SOULTHLAND DON'T EUTHANIZE LIKE THEY USED TO. AND THATS WHERE I FOUND MY BUDDY, WHO TO ME IS A WHOLE LOT SMARTER THAN SOME OF THESE PUREBREADS, DON'T GET ME WRONG.... I WAS RAISED AROUND LARGER PUREBREEDS, ITS WHEN I GREW UP TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE SHELTERS DID I THEN START PROMOTING ADOPTIONS TO ALL MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND ANYBODY LOOKING FOR A PET TO GO TO A SHELTER, EXCEPT FOR KRISSY, SHE WAS GIVEN TO ME AND I'M GONNA DO THE BEST TO FIND THE RIGHT MALE FOR HER IF AT ALL.... IM GONNA DO WHATS IN HER BEST INTEREST IF THE VET SAYS OK. I'M GONNA GET A BABY FROM MY BABY AND I WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHERE HER BABIES WILL GO, IF THEY GO AT ALL... I JUST MIGHT KEEP ALL OF THEM, EVEN IF ITS OF SOME OTHER BREED... IT WOULD BE GREAT TO FIND A MALE YORKIE, EVEN IF HE IS A RUNT, CHECKED OUT AND HEALTHY. I COULDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING MORE!!!!
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Are you aware that FIFTEEN MILLION animals were put to death in American shelters last year? Animals sentenced to die simply for the crime of being born in an overpopulated world. Some of us (such as myself) who work in animal sheltering and rescue, see this needless death every single day of the year. Purebred, mixed breed, it makes no difference... all are euthanized. Twenty five to forty percent of the dogs area shelters take in are purebred, and roughly twenty five percent of all dogs euthanized are purebred. The remainder are perfectly good, healthy, mixed breed dogs. Not a thing in the world wrong with them. And yet they are destroyed, each and every day, in staggering numbers. It tends to make those of us working in these fields a little militant about breeding.

Does that mean all of us are anti-breeding? No, of course not. Those of us with more than a spoonful of common sense realize that responsible breeding is vital to ensuring the continuation of breeds and sound, healthy bloodlines. The key, however, is RESPONSIBLE breeding. That means no intentional breeding of mixed breed dogs. That means no breeding for profit. That means no breeding of animals out of standard. That means no breeding of untested pets... both health testing and behavior testing. That means not intentionally breeding for pet quality animals.

The best breeding always results in some pet quality animals as well as the hoped-for show and competition animals. Breed for a PURPOSE.

You want to breed Chesapeake Retrievers? Fantastic! But breed them to either competition or field standards. You want to breed Cocker Spaniels? GREAT! But breed them to be gun dogs, to be the single best representation of the breed. Breed them the way they're supposed to be bred... not to simply fill some niche in a market that needn't exist.

If you want to breed Chihuahuas, breed Chihuahuas... but don't try to create some 2.5 pound, deer headed neurotic monstrosity just so some Paris Hilton-wannabe can carry it around in her purse until she loses interest in it. Don't breed "teacup" dogs. They don't exist. Period. They are simply runts with a clever name.
Don't breed Labradoodles. It's not a breed. They aren't hypoallergenic. Ditto for any other poodle-oodle-doodle mix. They aren't breeds... they are cleverly named marketing ploys.

They are, in reality, mutts... and millions upon millions of mutts are put to death in American shelters every year. Thousands every day.

Unless you are breeding the highest caliber of dogs, unless you are responsibly breeding purebreeds, breeding for purpose, tracing pedigrees and paying attention to genetics, unless you are breeding in conformance with REAL kennel club standards (and this doesn't mean CKC or APRI or any of the other illegitimate registries... UKC and AKC are the primary ones here in the US... most others service mills and bad breeders), unless you are planning litters MONTHS in advance, and have potential adopters lined up before conception occurs, DON'T BREED.

Don't think this applies just to dogs. More cats are killed annually in America than dogs. Summertime in American shelters is pure hell. It is Kitten Season. Cats are seasonal breeders. Queens come into season and breed in the spring, and May through November, the offspring POUR into the shelters. Thousands each day into Western Washington shelters alone... seven days a week. There is simply no way we can find homes for all of them. Hell, we're lucky to find homes for HALF of them. The other half wind up dead... laying on the killing room floor with the gleam of life fading from their eyes. SPAY OR NEUTER, PEOPLE! Unless you've got CFA Championship cats, SPAY OR NEUTER. There is absolutely no need to allow your animals to reproduce. Trust me, there are far too many doing that on a daily basis. Shelters nationwide are full to overflowing... and the blood of innocents is stilled each and every day. Tens of thousands of animals forfeit their lives for the crime of being born. And it is due entirely to human selfishness or ignorance.

Believe me, I know. I see it, seven days a week. I'm the guy holding the needle. I am the death-bringer at a Western Washington shelter. Each and every morning, I get to start my day by injecting somnolent death into the veins of the Puget Sound's unwanted animals. Every single day, forced to clean up the messes of others via euthanasia. Nothing would make me happier than to go into work tomorrow and have no surplus animals to euthanize... but the sad reality is that euthanasia will ALWAYS be necessary, simply because people will ALWAYS treat their pets as property and a means of income. People will ALWAYS continue to breed irresponsibly. But please, do your part. Spay or neuter your pets. If you want to breed, pleasee make sure your animal DESERVES to have it's genetics carried on into a new generation. Breeding is not a right, but a responsibility. It is a job, and it takes effort to do it right. The penalty for doing it wrong just means a continuation of the endless cycle of death.

BREED RESPONSIBLY, or DON'T BREED! Any questions?

PS: I like this letter and completely agree with every word, but I don't know the author.
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I AM GONNA BREED RESPONSIBLY, THATS WHY I'M LOOKING 6MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME IF THE VETS SAYS SHE'S FINE AND I KNOW WHERE HER BABIES ARE GONNA GO, IF SHE HAS ENOUGH...I WOULD NEVER BUY FROM A BREEDER BECAUSE OF TH FACT THAT ALOT OF SHELTERS ARE EUTHANIZING... I KNOW FOR A FACT WHEN LOOKING FOR MY BUDDY THAT THE SHELTERS RE IN THE SOULTHLAND DON'T EUTHANIZE LIKE THEY USED TO. AND THATS WHERE I FOUND MY BUDDY, WHO TO ME IS A WHOLE LOT SMARTER THAN SOME OF THESE PUREBREADS, DON'T GET ME WRONG.... I WAS RAISED AROUND LARGER PUREBREEDS, ITS WHEN I GREW UP TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE SHELTERS DID I THEN START PROMOTING ADOPTIONS TO ALL MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND ANYBODY LOOKING FOR A PET TO GO TO A SHELTER, EXCEPT FOR KRISSY, SHE WAS GIVEN TO ME AND I'M GONNA DO THE BEST TO FIND THE RIGHT MALE FOR HER IF AT ALL.... IM GONNA DO WHATS IN HER BEST INTEREST IF THE VET SAYS OK. I'M GONNA GET A BABY FROM MY BABY AND I WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHERE HER BABIES WILL GO, IF THEY GO AT ALL... I JUST MIGHT KEEP ALL OF THEM, EVEN IF ITS OF SOME OTHER BREED... IT WOULD BE GREAT TO FIND A MALE YORKIE, EVEN IF HE IS A RUNT, CHECKED OUT AND HEALTHY. I COULDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING MORE!!!!
Responsible breeders (AKA Reputable breeders) do not intentionally breed mixed breed dogs. They do not breed 3lb dogs. When you are breeding purebred dogs, you have a comformation standard to breed to - there is a purpose to breeding purebreds - and that is to get a dog that matches the standard as closely as possible. There is no purpose to breeding mixed breed dogs. I know you want another dog just like the one you have, but that is not how genetics works. The puppies will get half of their genes from the mother and half from the father. They may not look like the mother or act like the mother at all. The puppies may kill the mother as they are being born and you may be left with several puppies to bottle feed every two hours. There really is a high risk of you losing your female by breeding her. And honestly, the puppies are not going to be just like your female. Genetics are very complicated, and when you are breeding mixed dogs it's even more complicated...giving you even less of a chance of getting a puppy just like your female. All of those friends and family that want a puppy from you - why don't they adopt a yorkie, chihuahua, or a yorkie/chihuahua mix from a rescue? There are a lot out there that need homes. Please be responsible and spay your little girl
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Sorry, but you are NOT going to breed responsible because...

- your female is simple MUTT

- her size is WAY TO SMALL for breeding

- you don't care about male's papers, however it is VERY important to KNOW his history. That mean you don't care about health of your dog and puppies. Maybe he has genetic problems? (with his size he probably will). Maybe he is runt himself, but makes BIG babies? What happen to your tiny girl then?

- have you even done genetic testing?

Sorry, but this is the true....
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