I think I just bought a puppy mill Pup :(

[puppy_Love08]

Originally Posted by punkie

Well, there is one in my building named Peanut and he is about 2.5 lbs. At least that's what the owner says. He's the one I see the most. Then there are 2 others owned by another woman and one is 3 lbs and the other is almost 4 (so I've been told). There is also a a girl who owns a Yorkie and a Maltese in my building as well. Her Yorkie, Precious is 3 lbs and her Maltese, Maddy is 3.5 lbs. Then there was a Yorkie I saw at the mall the other day and the owners were really nice and friendly. My boyfriend and I chatted with them for a while and told them we were looking for a Yorkie. They let us play with theirs and hold her for a while. She was almost 4 lbs.

All of these dogs I mentioned are more than 2 years of age. I've also seen them at random outings before and they all looked about the same as the ones I have mentioned previously. So I have never seen a Yorkie 6-7 lbs or more before.

I have had a hard time finding a small one for the same reason you mentioned. Reputable breeders don't seem to have them often and when they do, they want a lot of money for them. Even more if it's a girl. At least that's my experience. Which is exactly why I fell into the trap I did.

The reason most reputable breeders don't have the tiny Yorkies is because reputable breeders know that low-weight Yorkies tend to have more health problems. According to my research, the weight listed for a Yorkie is 7 pounds!

[punkie]

Originally Posted by puppy_Love08

Punkie, come on. There isn't that big of a difference between 3 and 6 pounds. Have you ever weighed your purse? You might be surprised to find out just how much weight you carry around there.

I think the bottom line is what you keep repeating: you resent not getting what you were told you were getting. In that case, this is a matter of pride, right? I don't mean to come across so harshly, especially since I just joined, but let's be honest.

Umm, actually it has nothing to do with pride... It has to do with getting ripped off and not knowing what step to take next. I didn't post here to get picked on by you. I posted here to get advice and support.

[puppy_Love08]

Well, I gave you advice, but I cannot support your attitude. I just hope and pray your puppy ends up in a good home where he is loved just the way he is

[punkie]

Originally Posted by puppy_Love08

Punkie, come on. There isn't that big of a difference between 3 and 6 pounds. Have you ever weighed your purse? You might be surprised to find out just how much weight you carry around there.

I think the bottom line is what you keep repeating: you resent not getting what you were told you were getting. In that case, this is a matter of pride, right? I don't mean to come across so harshly, especially since I just joined, but let's be honest.

Also, I highly doubt my tiny purses weigh 6 lbs.

[punkie]

Originally Posted by puppy_Love08

Well, I gave you advice, but I cannot support your attitude. I just hope and pray your puppy ends up in a good home where he is loved just the way he is

I'm not sure I really understand why people seem to be irritated with my so called "attitude". I got a puppy and he is not what I had asked for or paid for. and I'm not happy. Why is that so hard to understand? If you bought a house or something you were going to have for a really long time and you were mislead about what you were getting, wouldn't you be upset and want compensation?

[chachi]

Originally Posted by punkie

I'm not sure I really understand why people seem to be irritated with my so called "attitude". I got a puppy and he is not what I had asked for or paid for. and I'm not happy. Why is that so hard to understand? If you bought a house or something you were going to have for a really long time and you were mislead about what you were getting, wouldn't you be upset and want compensation?

A house isnt a living thing there is a difference

[punkie]

Originally Posted by chachi

A house isnt a living thing there is a difference

So you love and respect all living things and care for them? Have you ever eaten meat?

I'm really starting to think that I came to the wrong place for advice and support.

[drawlins27]

About how big are the Yorkies you are seeing? I have a 5 pound Yorkie and he is only about 6 inches tall (bottom of foot to top of shoulder). I also have a 2.5 pound Yorkie (she suffers from Dwarfism, MVD, and hydrocephalus) and she is 5 inches tall. Build has a lot to do with weight but I just wonder if the people you are meeting really know how much their Yorkie weighs.

I have had experience with a lot of Yorkies through rescue work and my mother being a breeder. My personal preference is that I would never buy a Yorkie that I knew was going to be less than 5 lbs. They just get hurt way too easily.

[puppy_Love08]

Originally Posted by punkie

I'm not sure I really understand why people seem to be irritated with my so called "attitude". I got a puppy and he is not what I had asked for or paid for. and I'm not happy. Why is that so hard to understand? If you bought a house or something you were going to have for a really long time and you were mislead about what you were getting, wouldn't you be upset and want compensation?

I really do understand your disappointment. We all face disappointments, get ripped off, and don't always get what we wanted or expected. I just think sometimes we have to "step up" to the disappointment and do the right thing. In your case, I think the right thing is to keep and love your dog. We are talking about a living creature, not a car, house, or other object.

But I also think the next best thing is to give your puppy to someone who will take good care of him. But do it before he becomes too attached to you. So if your disappointment is going to keep you from loving your dog properly (however unintentional that may be), please give him to a good home.

[punkie]

Originally Posted by drawlins27

About how big are the Yorkies you are seeing? I have a 5 pound Yorkie and he is only about 6 inches tall (bottom of foot to top of shoulder). I also have a 2.5 pound Yorkie (she suffers from Dwarfism, MVD, and hydrocephalus) and she is 5 inches tall. Build has a lot to do with weight but I just wonder if the people you are meeting really know how much their Yorkie weighs.

I have had experience with a lot of Yorkies through rescue work and my mother being a breeder. My personal preference is that I would never buy a Yorkie that I knew was going to be less than 5 lbs. They just get hurt way too easily.

Well, I would think that they would probably know. Especially since they only grow up to a certain time.

I would say that they were probably all around 6 or 7 inches tall. I just remembered that I used to have a friend who's wife had a Yorkie and she was about 3.5 lbs from what I remember.

[celstu1]

Originally Posted by punkie

Well, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding then. Some people have been very quick to judge me and attack me just because I expected to get what I wanted, so I'm a bit sore I guess.

I did buy the puppy and picked him out of two boys (not the litter), but that's only because he was the smallest one and since I haven't seen a lot of 9 week old Yorkies, he looked so tiny to me. The breeder also told me that he was less than a pound. The next day when I had him weighed, he was almost 2 lbs (1.8). The guy told me he would be 3 lbs at the most. So I was completely duped. I never would have gotten him, had I known that he was almost 2 lbs. I'm sorry if that sounds shallow to some people, but if I didn't care about size, then I would have just gotten a different breed. Like a poodle or something and I certainly wouldn't have spent so much money.

Is it so wrong to know what you want and expect to get it? Maybe I'm not as passionate about this puppy as some of the people on here are about their dogs, but I've only had him for a week and he isn't what I thought I was getting.

Punkie,
Are you denying this pup bc you are MAD at the breeder? You do realize that you are denying YOURSELF precious time to bond and spend nurturing a baby who probably feels lonely! If this pup is TRUELY not what you want (keep in mind you have NO idea how this pup will turn out, or how ANY pup for that matter will turn out) then I hope you find him a new home very quickly where he can get the love, affection and socialization he deserves and needs.

However if you are mad at the breeder, feel like you were duped and don't want to keep the dog bc of the way everything went down, well my biggest suggestion to you is this: all during life you are going to meet people who are good, honest, caring and kind hearted. On the flip side you are going to meet people who would sell thier mom to make a $, who don't care about others, who are lazy and dirty and selfish enough to try to do things the easy way, swindle others if they can. That is just a fact of life. You can look at this guy as an enemy who screwed you over.... or you can look at him as a jerk who happened to breed a pup who can be your best friend and constant companion.

When you come onto a board like this, and you say you are denying a pup, you outright bought, regardless of the HUGE RED FLAGS that you saw where you bought him at, and want SUPPORT from YORKIE LOVERS bc your pup is going to 6lbs and you don't want him... well to the defense of the WONDERFUL people here, this is not the place for you to come for support. The people here CARE about the DOG! And that is not exactly the BEST treatment to give a baby you bought. You are not mean or abusive, nothing like that. Since you are set on wanting a tiny dog you are doing the right thing by trying to find a home for this baby.

People are not mad at you so to speak, but if they are quick to judge its bc stories similar to this come up ALL the time. Its very very sad to see shelters and rescues and all those innocent faces of the pups who were let go bc they did not suit their owner anymore. Getting a pup is a MANY years decision. Its not something you just up & do (unless you are britney spears haha). There are ups and downs with owning any animal. Imagine you get your 3lb dog and he/she has health problems that prevent you from taking him EVERYWHERE?? Then what? You re-home that one too? I think that due to your busy lifestyle right not might not be the best time in your life for a puppy. They need downtime too, as much as some may think it, puppies are NOT cute little accessories that you tote around everywhere with bows in their hair and get compliements. Yes that is a perk but they are soooooo much more work than that.

Please think about getting another dog at this point... think long and hard about it. Its a 15+ year commitment. There are many MANY times I find myself at home with my boys then out and about bc they need me and they are tired from the action the day before and want to curl in moms lap. It would be this case whether I had one or two or a 3lber or a 10lber.

Just think about it! And again, good luck with rehoming him. He is precious and I really wish you'd think it through more before making a final decision.

[wengaroni]

i'm sorry that you feel offended or upset by some of the comments left on your thread, but in all honesty, we (or i am) are just a little appalled by the reason you're giving in saying you don't want want him, which is his size. i feel as though you made a bad decision and now you're looking for a way out.

when i first got mocha she was 1-2 lbs and she's almost a year old at around 4.5 lbs. let me tell you, she is a tiny little thing. i'm hoping she'll grow a little bit more in the next couple of years (to 6-7 lbs), just in fear that i won't accidently step on her!

i think i read that you said you're a pretty busy person. if that is the case, yorkies are a demanding breed and require a lot of attention and care. i can attest to this (as many others can too!). my boyfriend bought me this puppy (my first) and it has been a lot of work. since she is my first puppy, i've grown a lot and learned a lot within the past year. all i know is that if you cannot give them the time that they need, then this is not the breed for you.

i really feel bad that you were mislead by that breeder and it has led you to here, but i really do hope you find him a good home so that he will be loved and taken care of.

best wishes.

[drawlins27]

Originally Posted by punkie

I'm not sure I really understand why people seem to be irritated with my so called "attitude". I got a puppy and he is not what I had asked for or paid for. and I'm not happy. Why is that so hard to understand? If you bought a house or something you were going to have for a really long time and you were mislead about what you were getting, wouldn't you be upset and want compensation?

You have to understand that most people on this board are passionate not only about their own Yorkies but about the breed in general and it is very sad for many of us to see a wonderful little Yorkie rejected. Here is what the YTCA (Yorkshire Terrier Club of America) states:


Special circumstances often come with extra tiny dogs. They are extremely
susceptible to both hereditary and non-hereditary health problems, including
birth defects that may go undetected for a long time. Other common
problems may include, but are not limited to, diarrhea, vomiting, along with
extra and expensive tests prior to routine teeth cleanings and surgeries.
Small ones are more likely to have poor reactions to anesthesia and die from
it. Tiny dogs are more easily injured by falls, being stepped on and being
attacked by other dogs. These health problems nearly always result in
large veterinary bills.

Please take this into consideration and make purchasing a healthy pet your top priority, not size. The “novelty” is certainly not worth the pain, heartbreak, or extra expense. Remember, all Yorkies are comparatively small. The most important thing is finding a healthy puppy that will grow into a healthy adult, especially since you looking at an 11 to 15 year commitment with your Yorkie.

http://www.ytca.org/faq.html#A

[puppy_Love08]

Originally Posted by celstu1

Punkie,
Getting a pup is a MANY years decision. Its not something you just up & do (unless you are britney spears haha). There are ups and downs with owning any animal. Imagine you get your 3lb dog and he/she has health problems that prevent you from taking him EVERYWHERE?? Then what? You re-home that one too? I think that due to your busy lifestyle right not might not be the best time in your life for a puppy. They need downtime too, as much as some may think it, puppies are NOT cute little accessories that you tote around everywhere with bows in their hair and get compliements. Yes that is a perk but they are soooooo much more work than that.
.

Wow. You said it all right there.

[punkie]

Originally Posted by puppy_Love08

But I also think the next best thing is to give your puppy to someone who will take good care of him. But do it before he becomes too attached to you. So if your disappointment is going to keep you from loving your dog properly (however unintentional that may be), please give him to a good home.

I agree. Which is what I have been trying to do. I could have been shallow or irresponsible like some people suggested I was and given him back to the guy I got him from to exchange him for a smaller one, but I didn't.

I've been looking for a good home for him. Two people called me yesterday who were interested. I called them back, but didn't get an answer. A couple of people suggested that I post an ad here as well, so I will do that.

Hopefully he will soon find an owner who will think he is the "perfect dog for them".