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06-15-2005, 09:06 AM | #1 |
YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northeast Georgia
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| stealing internet pictures With it being so easy to steal pictures off someones web page I know people are using stolen pictures to advertise puppies from them. Is there anything that can be done to stop these individuals and are there any legal steps that can be taken to file charges on them.. I know its a minor thing but just wondering what the laws are in situations like this. thanks
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06-15-2005, 09:22 AM | #2 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Florida
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| It happened to me. Breeder said it was a mistake and removed the picture. When this happens ,just email the breeder/website and explain that this is your pet and you never purchased from them. Then ask for the picture to be removed. If that doesnt work I would contact them personally. Most have phone numbers listed Genie |
06-15-2005, 09:33 AM | #3 |
Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon
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| If they are AKC or any other registry you can file a complaint for misrepresentation and request a record keeping investigation. I just had something very similar happen yesterday to my shock and dismay!
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06-15-2005, 09:33 AM | #4 |
Got Yorkie? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Virginia
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| Well, its copyright infringement first of all. On top of that, the smart thing for ANYONE to do would be to ask to see that puppy live on cam. That may help to cut down on people using fake pics.
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06-15-2005, 10:45 AM | #5 |
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| Maybe just put a watermark on your pictures if you are going to post them on the internet, that way it's almost impossibel for someone to use your picture...
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06-15-2005, 10:55 AM | #6 |
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| Pat and I had an experience on a forum.Whisper's pic was in the album section and the adm/owner or whatever, decided to start an ad forum and just put her pic on there. It looked like she was for sale and she had not made any effort to ask our permission. Said she did that all the time and then got permission within a half hour. TAKE IT DOWN! was our reply. Another time, a person placed a for sale ad for Biewers and used a pic of my Remi standing on my family room pegged oak floor. Wanted people to reserve a puppy that was not born yet but knew her mom was gonna have 4 puppies and you could reserve one for only $3500.00 payable thru Paypal.That ended up being a really ugly situation cause she also posted foreign dogs as parents. They had never even been in this country..I think there are no foolproof ways of protecting personal pictures.. |
06-15-2005, 10:57 AM | #7 | |
YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central NY state
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Heather- is this true? I've heard that there's nothing you can do about it. Wouldn't you need to copyright the info/photo in order for it to be an infringement? I would definitely suggest using a watermark on all photos. Of course, now that I say that, I realize that I've posted pictures on here without a watermark! LOL!! | |
06-15-2005, 10:57 AM | #8 | |
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The problem is you have to be able to prove damages and if they are using a picture of a yorkie that they get off a public website that has no copyright warning then they could claim the picture was not protected and that they were just using it as a representative photo of a yorkie, period. There is also the argument that you have made your yorkie a "public figure" so photos of it are free game. It's like celebrity who puts out a poster and then claims the picture on the poster was copyrighted when someone uses in their marketing. It is free game because it was already used in marketing and no longer has the copyright privilege attached. this gets complicated, but if you have a business like some of the members here have doggie clothing websites and you use your yorkie in the marketing, you should make sure you state on the website that all the photos are copyrighted. I know there is a way to prevent things from being copied off a website but I don't know how that's done. Maybe we could ask admin. | |
06-15-2005, 11:00 AM | #9 |
Mom loves Gucci Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New York City
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| That is awful. I guess watermarking the pics is one way to go. Kim you are very knowledgeable. Im glad you are here to help us. Last edited by Marie; 06-15-2005 at 11:03 AM. |
06-15-2005, 11:05 AM | #10 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida
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| pictures It has happened to both myself and Whispersmom. I had the administrator of Yorkiebreeders forum use a photo of our dogs in her "puppies for sale" site. I was so nice, honestly. I asked her to please remove the photo asap..she wanted to know why, everyone else thought it was a honor when she used theirs. I tried to explain as a member of the Yorkie club I was not permitted by the code of ethics to advertize where brokers/millers advertized. The poop hit the fan and she cursed me up one side and down the other...I told her what she did was unethical and that got me banned..which is just fine as I have no time now...this forum is all I can keep up with and enjoy! |
06-15-2005, 11:09 AM | #11 | |
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06-15-2005, 11:20 AM | #12 |
YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northeast Georgia
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| Thank you all for your advice. I keep hearing the same story over and over about the thief that curses the copyright holder of the pictures when asked to stop using it fraudulantly. I think the idea of 'right click' block on web pages is the best but if you don't have that then a watermark would be second best. It makes me sick that someone would steal a picture and represent it as their own and advertise it as the parents of puppies. I guess that's all the more reason for puppy buyers to be able to see the puppies and parents in person as opposed to shipping. thanks again |
06-15-2005, 11:53 AM | #13 |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: tx
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| Pirating pictures is very common. There have been a few big high volume breeders websites that have included this practice. One of the most well known was the famed HollyBelle Maltese scandal, which was a high volume breedrer with a nice website. Hollybelle advertised in some well known dog publications had a nice website, which included pirated pictures. She went down in a huge scandal after many complaints from dissatisfied consumers with sickly pups, customers not getting what they thought they were buying and some people were not getting pups that were paid for. There were also problems with "papers", bloodlines, etc and her animal living in horrid conditions. She also had a cattery. This site looked and sounded great, she bred for years had even advertised as having sold pups to famous people so it "looked" good to the consumer. It was a huge mess with lots of coverage. Not to mention that she even had her kids taken from the home by authorities after her "mill" was busted.
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06-15-2005, 11:59 AM | #14 |
Owned by Fred Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX
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| I've seen it happen all over the internet. Sometimes people go as far as stealing a person's picture (or an owner posing with a pet) and playing it off as themselves with their puppy. I think, like someone mentioned, to watermark a picture. If you have an editing program such as Photoshop, you could write your name across the picture and play with the transparency so you don't distort your picture and people can see yet, yet it protects it because if it's in the middle of the picture.. there is no way to cut it out so the theft cannot use the picture. I think it's a common practice and a lot of people think they can get away with doing it since it's through the internet and most of the people never meet them or see them. |
06-15-2005, 12:14 PM | #15 |
YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northeast Georgia
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| I remember the HollyBelle Maltese bust.. it was horrible.. Whatever happened in that case?.. I know there were so many people wanting to adopt those pups but couldn't because they were evidence in the case.
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