YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community


Welcome to the YorkieTalk.com Forums Community - the community for Yorkshire Terriers.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. You will be able to chat with over 35,000 YorkieTalk members, read over 2,000,000 posted discussions, and view more than 15,000 Yorkie photos in the YorkieTalk Photo Gallery after you register. We would love to have you as a member!

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please click here to contact us.

Go Back   YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community > YorkieTalk > General Yorkshire Terrier Discussion
Register Blogs FAQ Calendar JavaChat Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-15-2005, 09:06 AM   #1
YT Addict
 
Prissy012899's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Northeast Georgia
Posts: 251
Default stealing internet pictures

With it being so easy to steal pictures off someones web page I know people are using stolen pictures to advertise puppies from them. Is there anything that can be done to stop these individuals and are there any legal steps that can be taken to file charges on them.. I know its a minor thing but just wondering what the laws are in situations like this.

thanks
__________________
Prissy012899 is offline   Reply With Quote
Welcome Guest!
Not Registered?

Join today and remove this ad!

Old 06-15-2005, 09:22 AM   #2
Donating YT 1000 Club Member
 
Cookie2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,568
Default

It happened to me. Breeder said it was a mistake and removed the picture.
When this happens ,just email the breeder/website and explain that this is your pet and you never purchased from them. Then ask for the picture to be removed. If that doesnt work I would contact them personally. Most have phone numbers listed


Genie
Cookie2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2005, 09:33 AM   #3
Donating YT 4000 Club Member
 
feminvstr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 4,405
Default

If they are AKC or any other registry you can file a complaint for misrepresentation and request a record keeping investigation.

I just had something very similar happen yesterday to my shock and dismay!
__________________
Kimberly
feminvstr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2005, 09:33 AM   #4
Got Yorkie?
 
HeatherHamptons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 923
Default

Well, its copyright infringement first of all.

On top of that, the smart thing for ANYONE to do would be to ask to see that puppy live on cam. That may help to cut down on people using fake pics.
__________________
R.I.P sweet Prince.. You are dearly missed. My heart breaks thinking of you, but i know you're in a peaceful place. We love you sooooo much sweet boy
HeatherHamptons is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2005, 10:45 AM   #5
YT 500 Club Member
 
yorkiegal719's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 603
Default

Maybe just put a watermark on your pictures if you are going to post them on the internet, that way it's almost impossibel for someone to use your picture...
__________________
Theresa & The Boys +1 The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue
yorkiegal719 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2005, 10:55 AM   #6
Inactive Account
 
whispersmom2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: MD
Posts: 2,985
Default

Pat and I had an experience on a forum.Whisper's pic was in the album section and the adm/owner or whatever, decided to start an ad forum and just put her pic on there. It looked like she was for sale and she had not made any effort to ask our permission. Said she did that all the time and then got permission within a half hour. TAKE IT DOWN! was our reply.
Another time, a person placed a for sale ad for Biewers and used a pic of my Remi standing on my family room pegged oak floor. Wanted people to reserve a puppy that was not born yet but knew her mom was gonna have 4 puppies and you could reserve one for only $3500.00 payable thru Paypal.That ended up being a really ugly situation cause she also posted foreign dogs as parents. They had never even been in this country..I think there are no foolproof ways of protecting personal pictures..
whispersmom2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2005, 10:57 AM   #7
YT 1000 Club Member
 
centralnewyorki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Central NY state
Posts: 1,741
Animal Smiley 019

Quote:
Originally Posted by HeatherHamptons
Well, its copyright infringement first of all.

On top of that, the smart thing for ANYONE to do would be to ask to see that puppy live on cam. That may help to cut down on people using fake pics.

Heather- is this true? I've heard that there's nothing you can do about it. Wouldn't you need to copyright the info/photo in order for it to be an infringement? I would definitely suggest using a watermark on all photos. Of course, now that I say that, I realize that I've posted pictures on here without a watermark! LOL!!
__________________
Susan & Olivia
Visit Olivia's Dogster Page!
centralnewyorki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2005, 10:57 AM   #8
BANNED!
 
SoCalyorkiLvr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 8,246
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HeatherHamptons
Well, its copyright infringement first of all.
It is copyright infringement in a lot of cases and the best protection is to put a bubble on the picture with the photographer's logo or other identification. If that has not been done, then you would have to sue them for copyright infringement and whatever other causes of action you can think of including fraud and misrepresentation if they do not remove the photo when you ask them to. I have also seen people place an ad on puppyfind.om when someone steals picture there and I bet that is effective!

The problem is you have to be able to prove damages and if they are using a picture of a yorkie that they get off a public website that has no copyright warning then they could claim the picture was not protected and that they were just using it as a representative photo of a yorkie, period.

There is also the argument that you have made your yorkie a "public figure" so photos of it are free game. It's like celebrity who puts out a poster and then claims the picture on the poster was copyrighted when someone uses in their marketing. It is free game because it was already used in marketing and no longer has the copyright privilege attached. this gets complicated, but if you have a business like some of the members here have doggie clothing websites and you use your yorkie in the marketing, you should make sure you state on the website that all the photos are copyrighted. I know there is a way to prevent things from being copied off a website but I don't know how that's done. Maybe we could ask admin.
SoCalyorkiLvr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2005, 11:00 AM   #9
Mom loves Gucci
Donating Member
 
Marie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New York City
Posts: 6,427
Post

That is awful. I guess watermarking the pics is one way to go. Kim you are very knowledgeable. Im glad you are here to help us.
__________________
Huggies, Gucci and Marie
http://www.dogster.com/?132187
"I have been egged"

Last edited by Marie; 06-15-2005 at 11:03 AM.
Marie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2005, 11:05 AM   #10
No Longer a Member
 
YorkieRose's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: South Florida
Posts: 8,577
Default pictures

It has happened to both myself and Whispersmom.
I had the administrator of Yorkiebreeders forum use a photo of our dogs in her
"puppies for sale" site.
I was so nice, honestly. I asked her to please remove the photo asap..she wanted to know why, everyone else thought it was a honor when she used theirs. I tried to explain as a member of the Yorkie club I was not permitted by the code of ethics to advertize where brokers/millers advertized.

The poop hit the fan and she cursed me up one side and down the other...I told her what she did was unethical and that got me banned..which is just fine as I have no time now...this forum is all I can keep up with and enjoy!
YorkieRose is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2005, 11:09 AM   #11
Mom loves Gucci
Donating Member
 
Marie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New York City
Posts: 6,427
Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by YorkieRose
It has happened to both myself and Whispersmom.
I had the administrator of Yorkiebreeders forum use a photo of our dogs in her
"puppies for sale" site.
I was so nice, honestly. I asked her to please remove the photo asap..she wanted to know why, everyone else thought it was a honor when she used theirs. I tried to explain as a member of the Yorkie club I was not permitted by the code of ethics to advertize where brokers/millers advertized.

The poop hit the fan and she cursed me up one side and down the other...I told her what she did was unethical and that got me banned..which is just fine as I have no time now...this forum is all I can keep up with and enjoy!
The nerves of that lady. Well Im glad that you are here with us. We are very lucky that we can count on your wisdom. Is that ladies loss.
__________________
Huggies, Gucci and Marie
http://www.dogster.com/?132187
"I have been egged"
Marie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2005, 11:20 AM   #12
YT Addict
 
Prissy012899's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Northeast Georgia
Posts: 251
Default

Thank you all for your advice. I keep hearing the same story over and over about the thief that curses the copyright holder of the pictures when asked to stop using it fraudulantly.
I think the idea of 'right click' block on web pages is the best but if you don't have that then a watermark would be second best.
It makes me sick that someone would steal a picture and represent it as their own and advertise it as the parents of puppies.
I guess that's all the more reason for puppy buyers to be able to see the puppies and parents in person as opposed to shipping.

thanks again
Prissy012899 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2005, 11:53 AM   #13
YT 500 Club Member
 
Luvmypupster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: tx
Posts: 624
Default

Pirating pictures is very common. There have been a few big high volume breeders websites that have included this practice. One of the most well known was the famed HollyBelle Maltese scandal, which was a high volume breedrer with a nice website. Hollybelle advertised in some well known dog publications had a nice website, which included pirated pictures. She went down in a huge scandal after many complaints from dissatisfied consumers with sickly pups, customers not getting what they thought they were buying and some people were not getting pups that were paid for. There were also problems with "papers", bloodlines, etc and her animal living in horrid conditions. She also had a cattery. This site looked and sounded great, she bred for years had even advertised as having sold pups to famous people so it "looked" good to the consumer. It was a huge mess with lots of coverage. Not to mention that she even had her kids taken from the home by authorities after her "mill" was busted.
__________________
Emme & Faith R.I.P. Mia & Bentley
Luvmypupster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2005, 11:59 AM   #14
Owned by Fred
 
natalie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 1,352
Default

I've seen it happen all over the internet. Sometimes people go as far as stealing a person's picture (or an owner posing with a pet) and playing it off as themselves with their puppy.
I think, like someone mentioned, to watermark a picture. If you have an editing program such as Photoshop, you could write your name across the picture and play with the transparency so you don't distort your picture and people can see yet, yet it protects it because if it's in the middle of the picture.. there is no way to cut it out so the theft cannot use the picture.
I think it's a common practice and a lot of people think they can get away with doing it since it's through the internet and most of the people never meet them or see them.
natalie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2005, 12:14 PM   #15
YT Addict
 
Prissy012899's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Northeast Georgia
Posts: 251
Default

I remember the HollyBelle Maltese bust.. it was horrible..
Whatever happened in that case?.. I know there were so many people wanting to adopt those pups but couldn't because they were evidence in the case.
__________________
Prissy012899 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off




Google
 

SHOP NOW: Amazon :: eBay :: Buy.com :: Newegg :: PetStore :: Petco :: PetSmart


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2003 - 2018 YorkieTalk.com
Privacy Policy - Terms of Use

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730 731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 836 837 838 839 840 841 842 843 844 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 883 884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 892 893 894 895 896 897 898 899 900 901 902 903 904 905 906 907 908 909 910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 919 920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929 930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939 940 941 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 950 951 952 953 954 955 956 957 958 959 960 961 962 963 964 965 966 967 968 969 970 971 972 973 974 975 976 977 978 979 980 981 982 983 984 985 986 987 988 989 990 991 992 993 994 995 996 997 998 999 1000 1001 1002 1003 1004 1005 1006 1007 1008 1009 1010 1011 1012 1013 1014 1015 1016 1017 1018 1019 1020 1021 1022 1023 1024 1025 1026 1027 1028 1029 1030 1031 1032 1033 1034 1035 1036 1037 1038 1039 1040 1041 1042 1043 1044 1045 1046 1047 1048 1049 1050 1051 1052 1053 1054 1055 1056 1057 1058 1059 1060 1061 1062 1063 1064 1065 1066 1067 1068 1069 1070 1071 1072 1073 1074 1075 1076 1077 1078 1079 1080 1081 1082 1083 1084 1085 1086 1087 1088 1089 1090 1091 1092 1093 1094 1095 1096 1097 1098 1099 1100 1101 1102 1103 1104 1105 1106 1107 1108 1109 1110 1111 1112 1113 1114 1115 1116 1117 1118 1119 1120 1121 1122 1123 1124 1125 1126 1127 1128 1129 1130 1131 1132 1133 1134 1135 1136 1137 1138 1139 1140 1141 1142 1143 1144 1145 1146 1147 1148 1149 1150 1151 1152 1153 1154 1155 1156 1157 1158 1159 1160 1161 1162 1163 1164 1165 1166 1167