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|  07-17-2007, 05:15 PM | #16 | |
| I heart Hootie & Hobbs Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA 
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|  07-17-2007, 05:15 PM | #17 | 
| Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: VA 
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				 |    i agree 100% with Lisa on this situration question: the case with parvo, is that technically the breeders fault. its not illegal to let a pup go at 6-7 weeks, that usually not the cause of death (no vet here = ) its not like the breeder gave the pup parvo, the pup could have gotten from the vets office, from the breeders home, from the new parents home. THIS IS IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS RIGHT, CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG PEASE. because what i have learned about parvo is that someone can walk through it, and walk in to your home or yard and infect the pup if that pup has not had any vaccines. so is it really the breeders fault in that case? she technically didnt do anything wrong letting the puppy go at 6 weeks, thats just a matter of opinion really. if the breeder had the pup examed and vaccined, and the new owners took it home. then the breeder did as her part legally, right? Then she got parvo. how is it the breeders is responsible and needed to give a refund? it wasnt a genetic defect.... seriously im interested in responses on that............thanks   | 
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|  07-17-2007, 05:19 PM | #18 | 
| Love my Boys Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: w/ my boys 
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				 |    That is so awful!!!...I feel so bad for your friend...this link has the laws for purchasing a pup from a breeder, it's long but very informative...hope it helps... http://www.animallaw.info/articles/dduspetsales.htm 
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|  07-17-2007, 05:22 PM | #19 | 
| No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida 
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				 |  puppy  How sad! The puppy did not die due to age, it was ill. Did the puppy come to the owner with a health check and did the owner get a new puppy check from their vet after purchase? Unless, the owner takes the body to the vet and find out the cause of death, the breeder is only ethically responsible, not legally. | 
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|  07-17-2007, 05:23 PM | #20 | 
| Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: DFW, Texas 
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				 |    I think it was a form of kennel cough that killed the puppy. Was the puppy not showing any symptoms before the day it died? I just find it hard to believe it wouldn't be.  Did they not have the puppy checked by a vet after they purchased it?  I'm surprised that there wouldn't be an emergency clinic around where they live. Aren't they from Nashville or some pretty large city?  
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|  07-17-2007, 05:23 PM | #21 | 
| BANNED! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky 
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				 |    well, I wasn't going to say anything at all but seeing who the puppy belonged to has made my blood just boil.  The vets almost always have emergency numbers for weekends.  there are hundreds of vets in Nashville.  poor little dog.  never had a chance.  I hope Tanner will be alright.  Last edited by Sugar's Mom; 07-17-2007 at 05:26 PM. | 
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|  07-17-2007, 05:25 PM | #22 | 
| Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member |    That was just horrible to read and I'm so sorry for that poor puppy.       | 
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|  07-17-2007, 05:32 PM | #23 | 
| Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member |    I'm sorry the puppy died.  I remember him asking about getting a 7 week old puppy.  many warned him not to and let it stay with the breeder a little longer.  the poor pup probably had kennel cough or pneumonia which of course was not their fault at all.  I honestly think that Nodak and his fiancee are good people, and i have nothing against them despite what others have said here on YT.   If they get the autopsy done and the vet finds something wrong that they can hold against the breeder then i think it would be all worth it. They will be refunded or get another puppy, tho in this instance i would want my money back and not another pup from this particular breeder. I know its hard to lose a baby so young. Even if the pup was only with them for 9 day i'm sure they still got attached. please send them my condolences. edit: oh and i would like to add that not all areas have emergency vets. And, even if there are quite a few emergency vets in the area not all regular vets put the number on their answering machine. I know because i have to call many vets during the course of the week. 
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|  07-17-2007, 05:37 PM | #24 | 
| Gizzy & Kandi spoil me Donating Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Waco, Texas 
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				 |    My biggest concern here is Tanner.  If he hasn't finished his shots (and even if he has), he really needs to get checked out by the vet.  They should probably exhume the body of the little female and take her also so that she can be tested.  They can't really do anything about the little one who died, but they can still help Tanner.  In my opinion, he needs to be their first priority.  
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|  07-17-2007, 05:41 PM | #25 | 
| I love Jackson too! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ohio 
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				 |    I am so sorry to hear of your friend's loss.   Did the breeder give her any kind of health guarantee? 
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|  07-17-2007, 05:42 PM | #26 | |
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|  07-17-2007, 05:42 PM | #27 | |
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|  07-17-2007, 05:45 PM | #28 | 
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				 |    I would take some kind of action. I have always been told the breeders are just puppy mills if they let the babies leave any earlier than 12 weeks and to stay away from those breeders. 7 weeks is way to early.  
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|  07-17-2007, 05:48 PM | #29 | 
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				 |    Poor baby. I wish he would've taken the massive amount of advice that was provided to him on YT. That would've saved a lot of pain and heartbreak. I don't think there's a case against the breeder without an autopsy and without a guarantee. I also remember him being reminded to make sure there was a good health guarantee, but that seemed to be brushed off as well... No one deserves to suffer such a loss. Chris, Heidi, and Tanner are in my prayers. 
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|  07-17-2007, 06:42 PM | #30 | 
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				 |    I am so sorry to hear about the loss of that poor puppy!  
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