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Fran42478 · 06-06-2005, 06:15 PM

I got my Sammi at Quality Canines as well

ja9nyc · 06-06-2005, 06:16 PM

yea, but what happens then i leave her and someone else will just take her i wish that i didnt leave a deposit she most likely would have had a home already...

the puppys on there sight are cute.. anyone know there price range?

LvMyYorki · 06-06-2005, 06:20 PM

I am sure it is heartbreaking to know that the puppy you looked at is in that pet store, but the only way we can stop puppy mills is to educate people that don't know about them, which is what is so great about having a public forum like YT with all of the members that have posted on this thread have done. The second way to shut them down is to stop supporting them by giving them your money! If you can find out where this puppy came from and it ends up that they are getting their puppies from a puppy mill, I think you should let the store know that you are not buying their puppies bc you don't support puppy mills and that you are going to tell everyone you know where they get their dogs from. Hopefully one of the members in your area can help you find a caring and responsible breeder. I am sure that this is a hard decision for you, but I urge you to forget the cute puppy in the window and think about the torture that the breeding stock endures and the horrific lives that they are sentenced to as long as we support pet stores that get their puppies from puppy mills.

Fran42478 · 06-06-2005, 06:22 PM

When I went (3/04) the range was $700 - $2000

The pup at puppy paradise...Can you bring her to your vet they day you will pick her up to be checked out??

My mother in law got a puppy from Puppy Boutique and brought him her vet the next day where he discovered he had a heart condition as well as knee problems...She of course fell in love with him in a day, but had to return him

The gentleman at the store told her if she didnt tell anyone about the incident he would give her 2 yorkies for the yorkie she was giving back...

Terrible huh?

Fran42478 · 06-06-2005, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LvMyYorki

I am sure it is heartbreaking to know that the puppy you looked at is in that pet store, but the only way we can stop puppy mills is to educate people that don't know about them, which is what is so great about having a public forum like YT with all of the members that have posted on this thread have done. The second way to shut them down is to stop supporting them by giving them your money! If you can find out where this puppy came from and it ends up that they are getting their puppies from a puppy mill, I think you should let the store know that you are not buying their puppies bc you don't support puppy mills and that you are going to tell everyone you know where they get their dogs from. Hopefully one of the members in your area can help you find a caring and responsible breeder. I am sure that this is a hard decision for you, but I urge you to forget the cute puppy in the window and think about the torture that the breeding stock endures and the horrific lives that they are sentenced to as long as we support pet stores that get their puppies from puppy mills.

Very very well said! Tara is 100% right...The only way we can stopo them is to spread the word...

www.nopuppymills.com can give you an idea about what these petshops/backyard breeders are all about

Again, im sorry this is so hard for you and you are sad about the lil pup

XoXoXoXo
Fran

mojo · 06-06-2005, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilovebaby

This is one of the puppies from their site...doesn't it kinda look like a yorkie- chi mix??? hmmm....i think that's a big puppymill RED FLAG!!!!! BUt I must Coco is sooo adorable. I hope things work out for the best.

I was also thinking chiauhua (pardon spelling)/yorkie mix.

ja9nyc · 06-06-2005, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fran42478

When I went (3/04) the range was $700 - $2000

The pup at puppy paradise...Can you bring her to your vet they day you will pick her up to be checked out??

My mother in law got a puppy from Puppy Boutique and brought him her vet the next day where he discovered he had a heart condition as well as knee problems...She of course fell in love with him in a day, but had to return him

The gentleman at the store told her if she didnt tell anyone about the incident he would give her 2 yorkies for the yorkie she was giving back...

Terrible huh?

we were supposed to bring it RIGHT AFTER we left there but she aint coming out of there unless i pay for her in full and i just dont want to tie up my money like that and have to argue with them if something is wrong and i could use all that time and money 2 look for another puppy.

wow now my g/f is like we shouldnt get the dog there and now i want to save the thing. we just did a complete flip flop

SoCalyorkiLvr · 06-06-2005, 07:07 PM

I am so sorry for what you are going through. I know how tough it is. No one on here will feel badly about you if you get the puppy because we all know how quickly you can become attached to these little guys. Most of us made "mistakes" when we got our first dogs but we ove them completely and wouldn't trade them for anything in the world. We here on YT will love whatever puppy ypu get and from weherver you get her.

We have not confirmed that these puppies are coming from puppymills. Maybe they are imported from Brazil or Hangary where they are less expensive but well cared for. I don't know. Can you find out?

StewiesMom · 06-06-2005, 07:11 PM

Ok. Here's more of my two cents. If you deposited half or more and can't get the deposit back, then get the dog. If you deposited $100 or whatever then I would keep looking. You'll likely spend more on vet bills since we are 99% sure its a puppy mill pup.

Also, what if your dog was one of those "rented" dogs, or a dog that spent a bunch of time at someone's house for a birthday party. Who knows what was at those houses? I know it would make me sick just thinking about it.

DO NOT take the puppy to the store sponsored Vet if they are offering a "free check-up". Take her to an independent veterinarian who can give you an objecctive opinion.

chewysmom · 06-06-2005, 07:19 PM

None of us can tell you what to do and I'm sure some people on this site have gotten their pups from pet stores, but it is not the best route to go. A friend of mine has 3 shih tzu's 2 from a breeder and 1 from a pet store. The first 2 have never had health problems, but the one from the pet store is always at the vet and has some serious problems. You could be taking your chances with a sick puppy who will probably come out of there with kennel cough, ear mites... even malnourished. Pet stores are not in the business of caring for animals, they are in the business of making as much money as they can and sacrificing the health of the pet only puts more money in their pockets. My gut instinct is to tell you to NOT get a dog from puppy paradise, they are not reputable and you will have some sort of health issue with the dog and it will cost you more $$$ in the end. There are many breeders out there, even ones that are members at this site and I would suggest you check one of them out for a healthy puppy. If your deposit is an issue, check out the legality of them actually keeping it. It could just be a "store policy" which has no bearing on actual law. Good Luck!!!

LvMyYorki · 06-06-2005, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by StewiesMom

Also, what if your dog was one of those "rented" dogs, or a dog that spent a bunch of time at someone's house for a birthday party. Who knows what was at those houses? I know it would make me sick just thinking about it.

Great point Kristy! I never thought of that! Jeez! I forgot that this was the place that rented pups.... Everyone is right... no one can tell you what to do. Its an emotional decision. We are all just giving you our opinions and advice. It would appear, like Kristy posted, with 99% certainty that this shop gets their dogs from puppy mill breeders... you really need to think of the health risks and vet bills you are likely to incur. Even if the pup were to get a clean bill of health on the first vist, when you arent adopting from a breeder that knows their lines, you run the risks of liver shunt which would likely go undetected at this age amongst various other health risks.

Laura · 06-06-2005, 08:11 PM

Coco is cute, I think I read something good about a yorkie who's red-eye is green? Anyone remember that?

LvMyYorki · 06-06-2005, 08:19 PM

I think I have read that green glow is silk coat.

ja9nyc · 06-06-2005, 08:32 PM

that was scary when i read that coco could have been a rented puppy

imagine...

ahhhh come on guys had to bring up the green eye

we are supposed to pick it up Thurs so tomorrow is going to be the day that makes and breaks everything

jack-

maggiepie · 06-06-2005, 08:40 PM

I read about that somewhere as well, but currently looking, a photographer says to make a dogs eyes glow green, point the flash dierectly into his eyes. A vet (not my fav ) said that it may have something to do wtih the retinas.

06-06-2005, 06:15 PM	#46
Fran42478 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 1,731	I got my Sammi at Quality Canines as well __________________ Fran, Sophia Rose and Jake We Miss You Always Sammi 11/29/03 - 8/20/06

06-06-2005, 06:20 PM	#48
LvMyYorki Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 1,181	I am sure it is heartbreaking to know that the puppy you looked at is in that pet store, but the only way we can stop puppy mills is to educate people that don't know about them, which is what is so great about having a public forum like YT with all of the members that have posted on this thread have done. The second way to shut them down is to stop supporting them by giving them your money! If you can find out where this puppy came from and it ends up that they are getting their puppies from a puppy mill, I think you should let the store know that you are not buying their puppies bc you don't support puppy mills and that you are going to tell everyone you know where they get their dogs from. Hopefully one of the members in your area can help you find a caring and responsible breeder. I am sure that this is a hard decision for you, but I urge you to forget the cute puppy in the window and think about the torture that the breeding stock endures and the horrific lives that they are sentenced to as long as we support pet stores that get their puppies from puppy mills. __________________ Tara, Tino & Diva Bunny Diva Bunny: http://www.dogster.com/?141104 Rudolph Valentino: http://www.dogster.com/?76963

06-06-2005, 06:22 PM	#49
Fran42478 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 1,731	When I went (3/04) the range was $700 - $2000 The pup at puppy paradise...Can you bring her to your vet they day you will pick her up to be checked out?? My mother in law got a puppy from Puppy Boutique and brought him her vet the next day where he discovered he had a heart condition as well as knee problems...She of course fell in love with him in a day, but had to return him The gentleman at the store told her if she didnt tell anyone about the incident he would give her 2 yorkies for the yorkie she was giving back... Terrible huh? __________________ Fran, Sophia Rose and Jake We Miss You Always Sammi 11/29/03 - 8/20/06

06-06-2005, 07:11 PM	#54
StewiesMom Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,306	Ok. Here's more of my two cents. If you deposited half or more and can't get the deposit back, then get the dog. If you deposited $100 or whatever then I would keep looking. You'll likely spend more on vet bills since we are 99% sure its a puppy mill pup. Also, what if your dog was one of those "rented" dogs, or a dog that spent a bunch of time at someone's house for a birthday party. Who knows what was at those houses? I know it would make me sick just thinking about it. DO NOT take the puppy to the store sponsored Vet if they are offering a "free check-up". Take her to an independent veterinarian who can give you an objecctive opinion. __________________ Kristy & Stewie

06-06-2005, 08:11 PM	#57
Laura Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wylie TX Posts: 1,577	Coco is cute, I think I read something good about a yorkie who's red-eye is green? Anyone remember that? __________________ Laura--loving mom of Robyn, Dexter, Sandy, Mattie, Sammy, Jake & Mollie http://www.yorkietalk.com/gallery/sh...00&ppuser=1851

06-06-2005, 06:16 PM	#47
ja9nyc Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 44	yea, but what happens then i leave her and someone else will just take her i wish that i didnt leave a deposit she most likely would have had a home already... the puppys on there sight are cute.. anyone know there price range?

06-06-2005, 07:07 PM	#53
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	I am so sorry for what you are going through. I know how tough it is. No one on here will feel badly about you if you get the puppy because we all know how quickly you can become attached to these little guys. Most of us made "mistakes" when we got our first dogs but we ove them completely and wouldn't trade them for anything in the world. We here on YT will love whatever puppy ypu get and from weherver you get her. We have not confirmed that these puppies are coming from puppymills. Maybe they are imported from Brazil or Hangary where they are less expensive but well cared for. I don't know. Can you find out?

06-06-2005, 07:19 PM	#55
chewysmom My Precious Pup Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,092	None of us can tell you what to do and I'm sure some people on this site have gotten their pups from pet stores, but it is not the best route to go. A friend of mine has 3 shih tzu's 2 from a breeder and 1 from a pet store. The first 2 have never had health problems, but the one from the pet store is always at the vet and has some serious problems. You could be taking your chances with a sick puppy who will probably come out of there with kennel cough, ear mites... even malnourished. Pet stores are not in the business of caring for animals, they are in the business of making as much money as they can and sacrificing the health of the pet only puts more money in their pockets. My gut instinct is to tell you to NOT get a dog from puppy paradise, they are not reputable and you will have some sort of health issue with the dog and it will cost you more $$$ in the end. There are many breeders out there, even ones that are members at this site and I would suggest you check one of them out for a healthy puppy. If your deposit is an issue, check out the legality of them actually keeping it. It could just be a "store policy" which has no bearing on actual law. Good Luck!!!

06-06-2005, 08:19 PM	#58
LvMyYorki Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 1,181	I think I have read that green glow is silk coat. __________________ Tara, Tino & Diva Bunny Diva Bunny: http://www.dogster.com/?141104 Rudolph Valentino: http://www.dogster.com/?76963

06-06-2005, 08:32 PM	#59
ja9nyc Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 44	that was scary when i read that coco could have been a rented puppy imagine... ahhhh come on guys had to bring up the green eye we are supposed to pick it up Thurs so tomorrow is going to be the day that makes and breaks everything jack-

06-06-2005, 08:40 PM	#60
maggiepie Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2005 Location: california Posts: 174	I read about that somewhere as well, but currently looking, a photographer says to make a dogs eyes glow green, point the flash dierectly into his eyes. A vet (not my fav ) said that it may have something to do wtih the retinas.