FRUSTRATED :mad:

[YorkyMommy]

I too agree that you should hold your ground and re-emphasize to her that the deal was you were to get the female pup and you will not settle for anything less. Best of luck to you.

[MarilynMonroe]

dont back down! it would be too easy for her if you do that!

what a horrible person....

please keep us updated, and dont dont back down!!

[mhutch]

If you didn't get anything in writing forget it, there will be more puppies. Maybe she had a change of heart after falling in love with her??? Tuff one, good luck

[Monday]

Originally Posted by chachi

I would stick to your guns and get the female. Thats what was promised

I agree with Chachi ... a deal is a deal ... and assuming you do want the female... you have all the makings of a legal contract ..
Under contract law, there is no contract if there is no consideration. and FYI, The consideration must be reciprocal, each party offering consideration.

You offered your male as a stud in return for possession of the female offspring (their 'consideration' ).. you met the terms of the 'contract' aka "agreement".

Were there any stipulations that she could alter the agreement at her discretion? You would have had to be aware of this prior to the "deal" ...

I am certain you can give the baby girl the proper attention .... so that does not nullify the contract. (And that was not mentioned or stipulated at the time of the agreement).

In law we learned that a contract is any agreement where there is:
a) a mutual exchange of promises ;
b) with reasonable, understandable terms and conditions
c) that binds the parties to performance of the responsibilities described.
I do not see a violation of that definition.
So speak up! and good luck!

[chachi]

Maybe you should take the$700 she is offering you and go buy a female

[yorkiepip]

When i hear things like this i wonder how some people sleep at night. Why are there so many dishonest people around?? I hope you get your little girl as i'd hate to think of her growing up with this type of person for an owner.

[YorkieMom55]

Originally Posted by lillyrican

I ask her how Thalia is doing, (the name I gave the puppy) she tells me the puppy is doing better. That supposedly the puppy is still drinking the moms milk, and eating puppy food. I was like okay, I understand if she has to stay with the mom another few weeks. .

OK, I want to meet the dam that will allow an 8 wk old pup to still nurse with those little needle teeth. She must have strong teats.

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by YorkieMom55

OK, I want to meet the dam that will allow an 8 wk old pup to still nurse with those little needle teeth. She must have strong teats.

come to my house, I have an eight week old litter that will nurse their mama and the mama's sister unless i stop it. of course mama isn't too happy about it and most of the time won't let them but sometimes she does.

[Rhapsody]

Hello,

Maybe she is hesitating because there are only two pups in the litter. Now this is only a suggestion, but perhaps you could say something like 'since there are so few puppies you'd be willing to stud out your baby to her again for free, or with a reduced stud price.' That way you get your baby girl, and it gives this lady other options to consider. I know vet fees can get way up there on a pregnancy and pups, so maybe she's wanting to have a chance to break even on that, and it can be hard with only one male puppy.

Again, just a suggestion, and I'm thinking of what I would do to get the female pup that wouldn't cause more money or even sour a relationship with someone whom you consider a friend. Also, from the way she keeps mentioning her husband; it's possible that he's pressuring her. It's always hard to please everyone, and spouses insist on priority (no matter if the issue is right or wrong).

Good Luck!!!!

[Holly_QD]

The circumstances she is under shouldn't matter. She must have known what she was getting into when she approached about breeding the dogs initially. It is common sense that there are costs involved in a pregnancy. There are other ways to raise money to "break even". An honest person would honor her agreement first (give her the baby girl) and then seek other ways to replenish whatever money she spent. Besides, if she's trying to make up some of the costs, why is she offering 700.00 for the stud fee. That's just ridiculous.

There is no room for compassion for this lady even if her husband is pressuring her. There is no way my husband would ever let me be or appear to be a dishonest woman. If anything, he would do what he could to preserve my integrity especially because I use "his" last name.

Lillyrican, you have options. Don't be bashful about claiming what is rightfully yours.
These people are just seeing dollar signs or they probably promised a family member a female and she anticipated there being more puppies. She is just prioritizing. Maybe she rather preserve their friendship before yours. And while I am a firm believer that Blood is Thicker than water, I don't think there is anything that would make me go back on my word.
Fight girl, fight for what is yours.

[Yorkiesforever]

I agree you had a verbal agreement, She should of thought about all the 'if's" before she made the deal with you because in all reality if this is her 1st litter she could of very easily had just 1 pup weather it female or male.. and if it had been just a male you would of been on the other side of the deal "OUT". But luckily it fell out and she had a female so you get the girl.... and luckily she had 2 so she has profited. She got the bonus weather it female or male. REGARDLESS..... You should get the female. I think you learned a valuable lesson get it in WRITING and have a stud fee in case there is only 1 pup or not the pup of your choice. Good luck and let us know what's going on. I can't wait to see pictures of the little girl. I know it stinks that we have to have contracts and things can't be the way it was way back when, when your word was the truth......

[BabyFidgette]

Originally Posted by lillyrican

This all happened last friday, and it completely caught me off guard. I was expecting her to ask me if I was coming to pick up the puppy. Instead, she starts with all these excuses. I then called her Sunday, and I told her that the reason I had decided to breed Teddy was because I wanted a little girl. I wasn't interested in the male or a stud fee. She then tells me that she would have to speak to her husband. I was like okay. That was her way of getting out the coversation. I gave her three days, she didn't call. So I decided to call her Wednesday. Immediately she starts talking about something completely unrelated. I ask her how Thalia is doing, (the name I gave the puppy) she tells me the puppy is doing better. That supposedly the puppy is still drinking the moms milk, and eating puppy food. I was like okay, I understand if she has to stay with the mom another few weeks. She then mentions that she and her husband would be willing to give me 700.00 as a stud fee. I acted as though I didn't hear a thing. This is soo frustrating! I trusted her, I thought that she was an honest person.

Kick her ass, and get your pup!!!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by YorkieMom55

OK, I want to meet the dam that will allow an 8 wk old pup to still nurse with those little needle teeth. She must have strong teats.

My matron's do....I allow them to set the pace...

[BabyFidgette]

Originally Posted by yougetthesmiles

why don't she just wait till the puppy is 12 weeks old then you take it. It should be healthy enough by them.

That's a good idea. Tell her you had a verbal agreement, and you really don't want to take this matter to court. Tell her if she's that concerned, keep the baby till the "normal" 12 week point, and then you will be picking her up. You already have a Yorkie and have experience. You will make sure she's fed and bring her to the vet at the first sign of distress.

I would NOT back down. To others who don't have pets, her excuses may seem valid. But to we Yorkie lovers, we can see right through her deception.

PS. And what Yorkie isn't a finiky eater?

[BabyFidgette]

Originally Posted by Rhapsody

Hello,

Maybe she is hesitating because there are only two pups in the litter. Now this is only a suggestion, but perhaps you could say something like 'since there are so few puppies you'd be willing to stud out your baby to her again for free, or with a reduced stud price.' That way you get your baby girl, and it gives this lady other options to consider. I know vet fees can get way up there on a pregnancy and pups, so maybe she's wanting to have a chance to break even on that, and it can be hard with only one male puppy.

Again, just a suggestion, and I'm thinking of what I would do to get the female pup that wouldn't cause more money or even sour a relationship with someone whom you consider a friend. Also, from the way she keeps mentioning her husband; it's possible that he's pressuring her. It's always hard to please everyone, and spouses insist on priority (no matter if the issue is right or wrong).

Good Luck!!!!

I wouldn't do "business" with this woman again.