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Mommy of Brandi · 03-10-2007, 09:12 AM

so tell me if I'm getting this right now please? it doesn't matter what chip the dog has as long as it's chipped...because even if the particular scanner can't read the chip it will tell you the animal is chipped? then you'd go someplace else to have it read?

boy am I feeling particularly blonde at the moment.......and I would have had my vet chip Brandi while she was being spayed (sigh)

kalina82 · 03-10-2007, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mommy of Brandi

so tell me if I'm getting this right now please? it doesn't matter what chip the dog has as long as it's chipped...because even if the particular scanner can't read the chip it will tell you the animal is chipped? then you'd go someplace else to have it read?

boy am I feeling particularly blonde at the moment.......and I would have had my vet chip Brandi while she was being spayed (sigh)

yeah that's basically it. As long as the animal is chipped the scanner will tell you. it may not read the number or tell you which chip it is, but whoever is doing the scanning will be notified that the animal they are scanning is owned by someone. They can take the number they get off the scanner and check it with both avid and home again to find the person it belongs to.

mojo · 03-10-2007, 09:24 AM

So I'm a little confused. If somebody else has my dog, takes it to the vet, the vet can/will scan the dog if it has a chip (is this done routinely??) and it will come up with my name, therefore the vet will know this is not this other persons dog??

Also, what do you guys feel about the possible cancer risk??

I am contimplating having my dogs chipped, but I am on the fence right now.

JESSY_RN2B · 03-10-2007, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkieluv

Do you use Banfield? There was some sort of controversy going on before about the type of microchip they use because it has to be scanned on a different frequency, and not all shelters use that type of scanner. I'm not sure, maybe someone else has more info on that??

My vet said the same thing.....she didn't recommend it to us.

kalina82 · 03-10-2007, 10:08 AM

there is no harm in getting your dog chipped.

when your dog is scanned a number will appear on the screen. UNLESS your dog has an avid chip and is being scanned with a home again scanner. In that instance, the screen will say "avid chip" or something like that. This will alert the vet to get an avid scanner and scan the dog with that on so they will get a number. The number that appears is the ID number of the microchip that was assigned to your dog upon you mailing in the paperwork. SO, a number appears, your vet takes that number and calls the AVID hotline and give them the number. If it is an avid chip, the AVID company will be able to get the name and address of the person who owned the dog at the time of chipping (this information can be changed for a fee if a new owner is given the dog by the old owner. For instance, my sister had her cat microchipped and mailed in her information and teh cats information to AVID so that is what was associated with the ID number. a few years later my sister moved to austrailia and left the cat with me. I then contacted AVID, gave then the ID number of the chip(i had it on hand with the other paperwork my sister gave me from AVID) and told them that my sister had moved and i was the new owner. i had to fax in a new information sheet and pay a fee for this information to be changed). If the AVID company cannot located the ID number, then the chip is most likely a Home Again chip. So the vet would call the home again hot line and give them the number and the company would be able to tell them the owners name and address.

either way, you will come up with a name and address of the owner of the dog if they are microchipped so there is no reason not to do it. Each scanner will be able to tell you that the dog is microchipped, however the homeagain scanner will only tell you that it is an AVID chip (which can then be read by an avid scanner and the owner can still be found).

The controversy lies with the companies. AVID was the first company to come up with this chip. They were making a hell of a profit with the microchip so other companies wanted in on the action. Out came the Home Again chip and the 'universal scanner'. They soon found out that AVID encrypted their chips numbers so they can only be read by AVID scanners, the best the HomeAgain scanner can do is say its an avid chip. The US is the only contry without a real universal scanner that can read all chips thanks to AVID and they're unwillingness to cooperate.

The good thing is most chips that are being put in today are all HomeAgain chips so they can be read by most veterinary hosps, unless the hospital is outdated in their technology.

so chipping gets my

Mommy of Brandi · 03-10-2007, 10:18 AM

so if someone shows up at a vet for a "first visit" of a dog that's not a new puppy.....would they automatically scan it? Is it done routinely? my vet always takes my dog in the back to weigh her......

JESSY_RN2B · 03-10-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mommy of Brandi

so if someone shows up at a vet for a "first visit" of a dog that's not a new puppy.....would they automatically scan it? Is it done routinely? my vet always takes my dog in the back to weigh her......

Who knows for sure. I really doubt every vet does this though.

Here is a previous link.............very interesting

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...ight=microchip

Monday · 03-10-2007, 05:41 PM

I do not know what "chip" Monday has, but when I went to see other dogs, the breeders were able to read a number when Monday was scanned.
Friday was just "chipped" at the vet's and the chip is from AKC Companion Animal Recovery in Raleigh, NC, I sure hope other scanners can read that chip. I had no idea that certain scanners did not work with all the chips.
It has a unique number encoded in the microchip (I am quoting) and a Tag number ... I had to fill out all the necessary info and I have a copy of the scan (like the UPC code) ...
I feel itz worth it since they are so precious to me.

Yorkieluv · 03-10-2007, 06:32 PM

Banfield doesn't even use Avid or Home Again...They use something else like Crystal Tag or something, not sure...It's read on a completely different frequency so unless the shelter has this particular scanner it won't show up supposedly, or at least it used to be that way. Not sure if they still use that microchip...Sorry that I don't have more info on it, but you could probably do a search and come up with a lot of info.

Marie · 03-10-2007, 06:43 PM

I had Gucci microchiped last week on the Aspca Mobile van for $10. She also had her shots done that day and she didn't yelp at all. The vet said Gucci was a very brave little pup. Only that day she was a bit sleepy, but mostly due to the shots. The next day she was her normal self.
By the way the chip is from Home Again.

abzymum26 · 03-10-2007, 07:35 PM

Here is an article I came across....

"We recommend AVID for many reasons. First, the scanner reads all the chips that are sold in the United States. That includes The Home Again (which is actually made by a company called Destron), all other Destron chips including the original 400 MHz Destron chip (now these chips are 125 Mhz), the InfoPet #1, and all the AVID chips. The "universal" readers that were all programmed by AVID also ID a European Chip called Trovan that was sold for a very short time in the U.S. It is not legally sold now due to patent infringements

onelovelylynn · 03-10-2007, 07:36 PM

Crystal tag, does show up on scanners that vets and shelters use..

I had kizzys checked by both, just to be safe. And sure enough it showed up with the number.

So crystal tag does work!

Yorkieluv · 03-10-2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by onelovelylynn

Crystal tag, does show up on scanners that vets and shelters use..

I had kizzys checked by both, just to be safe. And sure enough it showed up with the number.

So crystal tag does work!

That's wonderful!! Thanks for the info... Everything I had read up to now was saying that there was a problem with Banfield's microchips...My maltese has a crystal tag, so I'm really glad to hear this. I was really worried.

kathy785 · 03-10-2007, 08:44 PM

I use AVID chips on my dogs. My vets' Homeagain read DOES read them. It gives a number. The dogs from Germany had a chip implanted there. Those chips are NOT readable or even detected by most scanners in the US. So my German dogs have 2 chips!

03-10-2007, 09:12 AM	#16
Mommy of Brandi YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York Posts: 745	so tell me if I'm getting this right now please? it doesn't matter what chip the dog has as long as it's chipped...because even if the particular scanner can't read the chip it will tell you the animal is chipped? then you'd go someplace else to have it read? boy am I feeling particularly blonde at the moment.......and I would have had my vet chip Brandi while she was being spayed (sigh) __________________ The way to mommy's heart is yorkie kisses!!! Brandi's MySpace

03-10-2007, 10:08 AM	#20
kalina82 Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: with my yorkie baby Posts: 10,141 Blog Entries: 1	there is no harm in getting your dog chipped. when your dog is scanned a number will appear on the screen. UNLESS your dog has an avid chip and is being scanned with a home again scanner. In that instance, the screen will say "avid chip" or something like that. This will alert the vet to get an avid scanner and scan the dog with that on so they will get a number. The number that appears is the ID number of the microchip that was assigned to your dog upon you mailing in the paperwork. SO, a number appears, your vet takes that number and calls the AVID hotline and give them the number. If it is an avid chip, the AVID company will be able to get the name and address of the person who owned the dog at the time of chipping (this information can be changed for a fee if a new owner is given the dog by the old owner. For instance, my sister had her cat microchipped and mailed in her information and teh cats information to AVID so that is what was associated with the ID number. a few years later my sister moved to austrailia and left the cat with me. I then contacted AVID, gave then the ID number of the chip(i had it on hand with the other paperwork my sister gave me from AVID) and told them that my sister had moved and i was the new owner. i had to fax in a new information sheet and pay a fee for this information to be changed). If the AVID company cannot located the ID number, then the chip is most likely a Home Again chip. So the vet would call the home again hot line and give them the number and the company would be able to tell them the owners name and address. either way, you will come up with a name and address of the owner of the dog if they are microchipped so there is no reason not to do it. Each scanner will be able to tell you that the dog is microchipped, however the homeagain scanner will only tell you that it is an AVID chip (which can then be read by an avid scanner and the owner can still be found). The controversy lies with the companies. AVID was the first company to come up with this chip. They were making a hell of a profit with the microchip so other companies wanted in on the action. Out came the Home Again chip and the 'universal scanner'. They soon found out that AVID encrypted their chips numbers so they can only be read by AVID scanners, the best the HomeAgain scanner can do is say its an avid chip. The US is the only contry without a real universal scanner that can read all chips thanks to AVID and they're unwillingness to cooperate. The good thing is most chips that are being put in today are all HomeAgain chips so they can be read by most veterinary hosps, unless the hospital is outdated in their technology. so chipping gets my __________________ Kellie and Morgan

03-10-2007, 10:18 AM	#21
Mommy of Brandi YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York Posts: 745	so if someone shows up at a vet for a "first visit" of a dog that's not a new puppy.....would they automatically scan it? Is it done routinely? my vet always takes my dog in the back to weigh her...... __________________ The way to mommy's heart is yorkie kisses!!! Brandi's MySpace

03-10-2007, 05:41 PM	#23
Monday AND Friday also! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Long Island Posts: 3,371	microchipped ... I do not know what "chip" Monday has, but when I went to see other dogs, the breeders were able to read a number when Monday was scanned. Friday was just "chipped" at the vet's and the chip is from AKC Companion Animal Recovery in Raleigh, NC, I sure hope other scanners can read that chip. I had no idea that certain scanners did not work with all the chips. It has a unique number encoded in the microchip (I am quoting) and a Tag number ... I had to fill out all the necessary info and I have a copy of the scan (like the UPC code) ... I feel itz worth it since they are so precious to me. __________________ Like dogs, we should sniff butts, not kiss them. Dogs have more friends because they wag their tails, not their tongues. http://music.clevver.com/video/25815...ersion-300.php

03-10-2007, 06:32 PM	#24
Yorkieluv Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 7,178	Banfield doesn't even use Avid or Home Again...They use something else like Crystal Tag or something, not sure...It's read on a completely different frequency so unless the shelter has this particular scanner it won't show up supposedly, or at least it used to be that way. Not sure if they still use that microchip...Sorry that I don't have more info on it, but you could probably do a search and come up with a lot of info. __________________ Miko 's his Mommy

03-10-2007, 09:24 AM	#18
mojo Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Here, there Posts: 2,693	So I'm a little confused. If somebody else has my dog, takes it to the vet, the vet can/will scan the dog if it has a chip (is this done routinely??) and it will come up with my name, therefore the vet will know this is not this other persons dog?? Also, what do you guys feel about the possible cancer risk?? I am contimplating having my dogs chipped, but I am on the fence right now.

03-10-2007, 06:43 PM	#25
Marie Mom loves Gucci Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 6,427	I had Gucci microchiped last week on the Aspca Mobile van for $10. She also had her shots done that day and she didn't yelp at all. The vet said Gucci was a very brave little pup. Only that day she was a bit sleepy, but mostly due to the shots. The next day she was her normal self. By the way the chip is from Home Again. __________________ Huggies, Gucci and Marie http://www.dogster.com/?132187 "I have been egged"

03-10-2007, 07:35 PM	#26
abzymum26 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: agoura hills Posts: 49	Here is an article I came across.... "We recommend AVID for many reasons. First, the scanner reads all the chips that are sold in the United States. That includes The Home Again (which is actually made by a company called Destron), all other Destron chips including the original 400 MHz Destron chip (now these chips are 125 Mhz), the InfoPet #1, and all the AVID chips. The "universal" readers that were all programmed by AVID also ID a European Chip called Trovan that was sold for a very short time in the U.S. It is not legally sold now due to patent infringements

03-10-2007, 07:36 PM	#27
onelovelylynn My Darling Divas Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: magnolia, Texas Posts: 1,220	Crystal tag, does show up on scanners that vets and shelters use.. I had kizzys checked by both, just to be safe. And sure enough it showed up with the number. So crystal tag does work!

03-10-2007, 08:44 PM	#29
kathy785 BANNED! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kansas Posts: 607	I use AVID chips on my dogs. My vets' Homeagain read DOES read them. It gives a number. The dogs from Germany had a chip implanted there. Those chips are NOT readable or even detected by most scanners in the US. So my German dogs have 2 chips!