Help!! Yorking won't stop crying!! - YorkieTalk.com Forums

tinkerwdw · 02-01-2007, 04:47 AM

My husband and I are at our wits end!
We have had our Yorkie for almost a year, and he was our friend's pet the year prior. They trained him very well- however, ignorantly we changed one of his old patterns, and now we are having trouble changing it back!

In his old house, he would sleep in his crate at night. My husband and I felt bad, since he is in his crate all day, to put him back in his crate at night. So, he has been sleeping with us since we adopted him last May. However, we just found out that I am pregnant!!

and we know now that we need to break him of this habit before the baby comes, since the baby will probably be sleeping in the bed with us when it is born.

First, we tried putting his bed on our bed and having him sleep on that. Our next plan was to move his bed to the floor and have him sleep on the floor next to our bed. Our goal is to still have him in the same room so he still feels a part of the family, but just not on the bed.

However, everynight we try this, he starts on his bed, then in the middle of the night he ends up snuggled right next to me! Last night we tried putting him in his cage, but he cried ALL NIGHT LONG. He is very stubborn- but we thought eventually he would realize that we weren't going to get him and he would stop, but he didn't!

This is very confusing to us because when he goes back to our friend's house (his first owners) he remembers all his old rountines and follows them (no jumping on the couch, sleeping in his crate at night) but at our house, there is a problem.

This is my first message on these boards, and I am sure that I have a lot to learn! Please share any advice you have for my husband and I. Our next step was to get a barking collar (he had one when he was little with his first owner) but I am trying not to go that route.

Thank you for all your time and help! I look forward to your advice!

ChestersMom · 02-01-2007, 05:22 AM

Poor little guy. He's probably a little confused. I'm sure everyone here will agree that these little creatures want nothing more than to be close to their humans.

Please don't take this wrong, but I worry about your decision to have the baby sleep with you at first. I personally know of at least one infant dying from being smothered by a parent in their bed. However, at about six months, I brought my son to bed with me also, so I can't say not to. But, by that age, the child is bigger, stronger, and the dog will most likely have bonded with the baby too, so there shouldn't be a problem. My son and dogs both slept with me at the same time.

I'm sure you'll get a million different opinions, and this is just one. Hopefully all will work out well for you, your baby and your furbaby.

chachi · 02-01-2007, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ChestersMom

Poor little guy. He's probably a little confused. I'm sure everyone here will agree that these little creatures want nothing more than to be close to their humans.

Please don't take this wrong, but I worry about your decision to have the baby sleep with you at first. I personally know of at least one infant dying from being smothered by a parent in their bed. However, at about six months, I brought my son to bed with me also, so I can't say not to. But, by that age, the child is bigger, stronger, and the dog will most likely have bonded with the baby too, so there shouldn't be a problem. My son and dogs both slept with me at the same time.

I'm sure you'll get a million different opinions, and this is just one. Hopefully all will work out well for you, your baby and your furbaby.

I wouldnt put the baby in bed with you either. I would get a bassinet and put it right by the bed. Thats what I did

tinkerwdw · 02-01-2007, 05:25 AM

Hi! Thanks for your reply!

I should have added that we are having a special infant sleeper that attached next to our bed, so the baby will not be sleeping without barriers on each side! I would be afraid of smothering it too!

I know that Monty just wants to be close to us, I am just afraid that we have now spoiled him and cannot change him back!

I really need advice on what to do!

dalnna · 02-01-2007, 05:38 AM

Congratulations on your pregnancy! I too, am personally aware of an infant smothering in a parent's bed. I think I'd try maybe letting your yorkie go to sleep with you and then, when he is very sleepy, try moving him back to his own bed (crate). Our first yorkie would always lay in bed with me until hubby came to bed and then he would move her to her crate for the night. When we got our second yorkie, we continued with this ritual so that the older yorkie continued to have her "special" time in our bed while the younger one went straight to her crate. The first couple of nights after the new yorkie arrived, the older one complained about going to the crate but then realized that's the way it was and relaxed. You have to give him some time to get used to the new sleeping arrangments just as you'll have to give him time to get used to the new baby.

BLowry · 02-01-2007, 06:30 AM

I feel it's going to be hard to break your little guys sleeping habit...Once they are under those warm covers cuddled up next to you, a cold crate just doesn't feel good to them anymore. We let Sadie sleep with us when we were on vacation a couple of years ago...When we came home I thought, being in her home, she would go back to sleeping in her crate...WRONG! nothing doing!

And as for your baby sleeping with you...IMO...I wouldn't do this. your new baby needs a place of his/her own also and, if you think it's hard to get your yorkie to sleep alone after sleeping with you wait until you try to get a skinchild to sleep alone....and...what is going to happen when you and your hubby want "alone" time....This is just my opinion...

celstu1 · 02-01-2007, 06:37 AM

Congrads on the pregnancy!!!

I don't have children so I don't have good advice on that, but when I got my babies and made them sleep in a crate, I put the crate next to my bed, put a small clock that ticked softly in the crate and a nice warm blanky! Then I got them in, they cried all night ggrrr.. then the next night, I covered the crate with another blanket completely. It muffled the noise on the outside from them, made things darker and they didn't cry at all. Try putting your babys bed in a crate with blankets and a ticking clock and covering the crate with a blanket at night. Maybe that will help him feel more cozy, safe and content being away from you.

Good Luck!!!

Pipersmommy · 02-01-2007, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tinkerwdw

Hi! Thanks for your reply!

I should have added that we are having a special infant sleeper that attached next to our bed, so the baby will not be sleeping without barriers on each side! I would be afraid of smothering it too!

I know that Monty just wants to be close to us, I am just afraid that we have now spoiled him and cannot change him back!

I really need advice on what to do!

Why change anything if the baby will be sleeping in a special infant sleeper that attaches next to the bed. I prefer to have my girls in bed, they bark & warn us if they hear an unfamilier noise. We have steps at the end of our bed so they can let themselves down. One night they got down off the bed, ran to the lanai doors barking. Came back to bed to get us up. We followed them to the doors to find a bob cat, or a large cat trying to get in to get to the girls food I forgot out there. Hubby scared it off & never saw it again.

Potter · 02-01-2007, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pipersmommy

Why change anything if the baby will be sleeping in a special infant sleeper that attaches next to the bed. I prefer to have my girls in bed, they bark & warn us if they hear an unfamilier noise. We have steps at the end of our bed so they can let themselves down. One night they got down off the bed, ran to the lanai doors barking. Came back to bed to get us up. We followed them to the doors to find a bob cat, or a large cat trying to get in to get to the girls food I forgot out there. Hubby scared it off & never saw it again.

I think the same too. Why change anything if the baby will be sleeping in a special infant sleeper. Your dog is not spoilt, don't worry. He just wants to sleep with his family because he is used to it.

Lexi Rae · 02-01-2007, 07:42 AM

you just cant kick him out of bed now.... i cant see putting him in a crate
now after all this time...its just not right.
i dont think he is stubborn for not wanting to be in there now.. he now
is used to being with you... just my opinion,

MissLola · 02-01-2007, 07:47 AM

First of all, congrats on your pregnancy!

With my daughter, we used a little cradle (like a bassinet) that sat right beside the bed. It felt like the safest option to me. With a bassinet or cradle, they are up off the ground at about the level of your bed, so they still feel nice and close but still completely away from the dangers of cosleeping in the bed with you (accidentally getting covered up with blankets or pillows, etc). It's the perfect solution for when you're up every 2 hours feeding, too.

Especially if you breastfeed, you never have to leave your bed that way. They are next to you, but still in a separate bed that isn't attached to yours. One reason I didn't trust my daughter with the cosleepers that attach to the bed or sleeping in bed with us is that she moved around sooo much, even as a newborn. She would have buried herself in blankets in minutes. In the cradle, I never had to worry about any of that, but she was still within arm's reach.

I don't really have tips for retraining the dog, but maybe you can find a happy medium by keeping both of them near you at night. If you use a cradle or bassinet for the baby, your dog could probably keep his spot on the bed. Good luck, and congrats again on the pregnancy!

koolbreeze · 02-01-2007, 07:53 AM

there is nothing wrong with having your baby sleep with you. i have had 5 and they have all slept with me from day one. i just put them on top of a pillow. and as they got older they slept in my arms all night. its worked for me and my oldest is 8. and i have had no problem with my kids transitioning to their own beds. i just got my baby (6months) in his own bed and sleeping through the night. though i think he misses me holding him cause he trys to make up for it during the day by not letting me put him down for a nap. everytime he falls asleep and i go to put him down he wakes up!

Troy didn't try to sleep with me. but i didn't let her believe that was gonna happen either. she cried at first but she sleeps through the night now with no problem. and shes all the way in the kitchen in a crate. shes got a blankie and a toy. and i cover her with another blanket. i don't think she like my bed to much. when ever i try to have her up there to hang out she stays for a minute but then wants to get down. under the bed is a different story!!!

Siara28 · 02-01-2007, 08:16 AM

Has anyone seen these??

http://www.mybedsidebuddy.com/

RRC · 02-01-2007, 08:18 AM

Congratulations on your baby!
I'd try putting a heating pad on low and using one of those bean-bag type snuggle pillows to transition the dog back to the crate. Jazz used to love snuggling in his before he came to sleep with us. I am not sure even this will work, as he might just keep you awake until you relent.
If you do keep the dog in the bed, be aware that every time you get up with the new baby, so he will get up too for a while. He'll want to know what you are doing. Eventually, he will get used to it and sleep though it. This is based on my experiences with night time potty breaks, not being up with a baby.

Jazz used to follow me to the bathroom during the night, now he just goes back to sleep. He knows I will be back soon.
Good luck. My DD slept with us until she was 8. I loved having her there and knowing she was safe. My niece and nephews have co-sleepers for their babies and love using them.
When your baby comes, for a few months you will be getting very little sleep. Hang in there, it will pass.
Trust your own judgment. You'll do just fine.

bonmur · 02-01-2007, 08:22 AM

I have a 10 mo old baby (last of 4) and he has slept with me from day one.. He could not sleep by himself. I had my bed against a co sleeper but he ended up in bed with me anyway, FOr teh first 4 mo he slept sideways with his feet touching my side. That way he was close enough to feel me but he couldnt have his face covered or smothered without first beign rolled completely over on. I finally had to change him to normal sleeping position because he was getting too long.
My yorkie has slept with me through it and has never bothered the baby. In fact, now that my son can grab an ear etc. he prefers to leave the bed usually unless my son is super asleep. He doesnt trust him
My dog and son are best friends and he doesnt lick him etc. He pretty much ignores him but loves him no less.

02-01-2007, 04:47 AM	#1
tinkerwdw YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orlando Posts: 5	Help!! Yorking won't stop crying!! My husband and I are at our wits end! We have had our Yorkie for almost a year, and he was our friend's pet the year prior. They trained him very well- however, ignorantly we changed one of his old patterns, and now we are having trouble changing it back! In his old house, he would sleep in his crate at night. My husband and I felt bad, since he is in his crate all day, to put him back in his crate at night. So, he has been sleeping with us since we adopted him last May. However, we just found out that I am pregnant!! and we know now that we need to break him of this habit before the baby comes, since the baby will probably be sleeping in the bed with us when it is born. First, we tried putting his bed on our bed and having him sleep on that. Our next plan was to move his bed to the floor and have him sleep on the floor next to our bed. Our goal is to still have him in the same room so he still feels a part of the family, but just not on the bed. However, everynight we try this, he starts on his bed, then in the middle of the night he ends up snuggled right next to me! Last night we tried putting him in his cage, but he cried ALL NIGHT LONG. He is very stubborn- but we thought eventually he would realize that we weren't going to get him and he would stop, but he didn't! This is very confusing to us because when he goes back to our friend's house (his first owners) he remembers all his old rountines and follows them (no jumping on the couch, sleeping in his crate at night) but at our house, there is a problem. This is my first message on these boards, and I am sure that I have a lot to learn! Please share any advice you have for my husband and I. Our next step was to get a barking collar (he had one when he was little with his first owner) but I am trying not to go that route. Thank you for all your time and help! I look forward to your advice!

02-01-2007, 05:38 AM	#5
dalnna Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 316	Congratulations on your pregnancy! I too, am personally aware of an infant smothering in a parent's bed. I think I'd try maybe letting your yorkie go to sleep with you and then, when he is very sleepy, try moving him back to his own bed (crate). Our first yorkie would always lay in bed with me until hubby came to bed and then he would move her to her crate for the night. When we got our second yorkie, we continued with this ritual so that the older yorkie continued to have her "special" time in our bed while the younger one went straight to her crate. The first couple of nights after the new yorkie arrived, the older one complained about going to the crate but then realized that's the way it was and relaxed. You have to give him some time to get used to the new sleeping arrangments just as you'll have to give him time to get used to the new baby. __________________ I Just LOVE My Girls!!!

02-01-2007, 06:30 AM	#6
BLowry My furkids Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,625 Blog Entries: 1	I feel it's going to be hard to break your little guys sleeping habit...Once they are under those warm covers cuddled up next to you, a cold crate just doesn't feel good to them anymore. We let Sadie sleep with us when we were on vacation a couple of years ago...When we came home I thought, being in her home, she would go back to sleeping in her crate...WRONG! nothing doing! And as for your baby sleeping with you...IMO...I wouldn't do this. your new baby needs a place of his/her own also and, if you think it's hard to get your yorkie to sleep alone after sleeping with you wait until you try to get a skinchild to sleep alone....and...what is going to happen when you and your hubby want "alone" time....This is just my opinion... __________________ Brenda

02-01-2007, 07:42 AM	#10
Lexi Rae Gina, (Lexi's Mommy) Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: LONG ISLAND,NY Posts: 10,455	you just cant kick him out of bed now.... i cant see putting him in a crate now after all this time...its just not right. i dont think he is stubborn for not wanting to be in there now.. he now is used to being with you... just my opinion, __________________ Gina & Lexi CLICK HERE for our Photo Album ...

02-01-2007, 07:53 AM	#12
koolbreeze YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: MO Posts: 442	there is nothing wrong with having your baby sleep with you. i have had 5 and they have all slept with me from day one. i just put them on top of a pillow. and as they got older they slept in my arms all night. its worked for me and my oldest is 8. and i have had no problem with my kids transitioning to their own beds. i just got my baby (6months) in his own bed and sleeping through the night. though i think he misses me holding him cause he trys to make up for it during the day by not letting me put him down for a nap. everytime he falls asleep and i go to put him down he wakes up! Troy didn't try to sleep with me. but i didn't let her believe that was gonna happen either. she cried at first but she sleeps through the night now with no problem. and shes all the way in the kitchen in a crate. shes got a blankie and a toy. and i cover her with another blanket. i don't think she like my bed to much. when ever i try to have her up there to hang out she stays for a minute but then wants to get down. under the bed is a different story!!! __________________ Troy Walker Scott Carmell Gino Calease Carrigan Anna Aidan

02-01-2007, 05:22 AM	#2
ChestersMom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bacliff, TX Posts: 947	Poor little guy. He's probably a little confused. I'm sure everyone here will agree that these little creatures want nothing more than to be close to their humans. Please don't take this wrong, but I worry about your decision to have the baby sleep with you at first. I personally know of at least one infant dying from being smothered by a parent in their bed. However, at about six months, I brought my son to bed with me also, so I can't say not to. But, by that age, the child is bigger, stronger, and the dog will most likely have bonded with the baby too, so there shouldn't be a problem. My son and dogs both slept with me at the same time. I'm sure you'll get a million different opinions, and this is just one. Hopefully all will work out well for you, your baby and your furbaby.

02-01-2007, 05:25 AM	#4
tinkerwdw YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orlando Posts: 5	Hi! Thanks for your reply! I should have added that we are having a special infant sleeper that attached next to our bed, so the baby will not be sleeping without barriers on each side! I would be afraid of smothering it too! I know that Monty just wants to be close to us, I am just afraid that we have now spoiled him and cannot change him back! I really need advice on what to do!

02-01-2007, 06:37 AM	#7
celstu1 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 10,534	Congrads on the pregnancy!!! I don't have children so I don't have good advice on that, but when I got my babies and made them sleep in a crate, I put the crate next to my bed, put a small clock that ticked softly in the crate and a nice warm blanky! Then I got them in, they cried all night ggrrr.. then the next night, I covered the crate with another blanket completely. It muffled the noise on the outside from them, made things darker and they didn't cry at all. Try putting your babys bed in a crate with blankets and a ticking clock and covering the crate with a blanket at night. Maybe that will help him feel more cozy, safe and content being away from you. Good Luck!!!

02-01-2007, 07:47 AM	#11
MissLola Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Dakota Posts: 340	First of all, congrats on your pregnancy! With my daughter, we used a little cradle (like a bassinet) that sat right beside the bed. It felt like the safest option to me. With a bassinet or cradle, they are up off the ground at about the level of your bed, so they still feel nice and close but still completely away from the dangers of cosleeping in the bed with you (accidentally getting covered up with blankets or pillows, etc). It's the perfect solution for when you're up every 2 hours feeding, too. Especially if you breastfeed, you never have to leave your bed that way. They are next to you, but still in a separate bed that isn't attached to yours. One reason I didn't trust my daughter with the cosleepers that attach to the bed or sleeping in bed with us is that she moved around sooo much, even as a newborn. She would have buried herself in blankets in minutes. In the cradle, I never had to worry about any of that, but she was still within arm's reach. I don't really have tips for retraining the dog, but maybe you can find a happy medium by keeping both of them near you at night. If you use a cradle or bassinet for the baby, your dog could probably keep his spot on the bed. Good luck, and congrats again on the pregnancy!

02-01-2007, 08:16 AM	#13
Siara28 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 151	Has anyone seen these?? http://www.mybedsidebuddy.com/

02-01-2007, 08:18 AM	#14
RRC Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Posts: 196	Congratulations on your baby! I'd try putting a heating pad on low and using one of those bean-bag type snuggle pillows to transition the dog back to the crate. Jazz used to love snuggling in his before he came to sleep with us. I am not sure even this will work, as he might just keep you awake until you relent. If you do keep the dog in the bed, be aware that every time you get up with the new baby, so he will get up too for a while. He'll want to know what you are doing. Eventually, he will get used to it and sleep though it. This is based on my experiences with night time potty breaks, not being up with a baby. Jazz used to follow me to the bathroom during the night, now he just goes back to sleep. He knows I will be back soon. Good luck. My DD slept with us until she was 8. I loved having her there and knowing she was safe. My niece and nephews have co-sleepers for their babies and love using them. When your baby comes, for a few months you will be getting very little sleep. Hang in there, it will pass. Trust your own judgment. You'll do just fine. __________________ Please visit us on Dogster Jazz:www.dogster.com/dogs/463165 Mo: www.dogster.com/dogs/467592 JoyBelle: www.dogster.com/dogs/912621

02-01-2007, 08:22 AM	#15
bonmur YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UT Posts: 306	I have a 10 mo old baby (last of 4) and he has slept with me from day one.. He could not sleep by himself. I had my bed against a co sleeper but he ended up in bed with me anyway, FOr teh first 4 mo he slept sideways with his feet touching my side. That way he was close enough to feel me but he couldnt have his face covered or smothered without first beign rolled completely over on. I finally had to change him to normal sleeping position because he was getting too long. My yorkie has slept with me through it and has never bothered the baby. In fact, now that my son can grab an ear etc. he prefers to leave the bed usually unless my son is super asleep. He doesnt trust him My dog and son are best friends and he doesnt lick him etc. He pretty much ignores him but loves him no less. Attached Thumbnails