Brush Creek Kennel Investigation

[CO_yorkie_momma]

Thanks for the reminder David. Did you see Mr. Moore's post here explaining his lawsuit with the Mallory lady? Did you check the records to see if her lawsuit was for getting sick puppies or another reason like Mr. Moore said. Also since you were able to see her place, does it look like she is a puppymill as well. That is the impression I got after hearing Mr. Moores side of the story.

[dobiedude]

Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma

Thanks for the reminder David. Did you see Mr. Moore's post here explaining his lawsuit with the Mallory lady? Did you check the records to see if her lawsuit was for getting sick puppies or another reason like Mr. Moore said. Also since you were able to see her place, does it look like she is a puppymill as well. That is the impression I got after hearing Mr. Moores side of the story.

I was wondering the same things. I wonder will FOX answer Mr. Moore questions? Please show us you are doing what you said you were going to do. Investigate.

[doortego]

Originally Posted by dobiedude

EWWWWWWWWWWWWW your gross I would never breed a dog myself. That is what a stud dog is for you sick person!

This type of insinuation has no place on a public forum. Future remarks of this level should result in his being banned.

[dobiedude]

Originally Posted by doortego

This type of insinuation has no place on a public forum. Future remarks of this level should result in his being banned.

I don't think they had a problem with it but whatever. Do what everyone told me to do Lighten up

[doortego]

Originally Posted by dobiedude

I don't think they had a problem with it but whatever. Do what everyone told me to do Lighten up

That's not a laughing matter. It is vulgar, coarse and totally out of place on a public forum.

[valbholmes]

Originally Posted by doortego

This type of insinuation has no place on a public forum. Future remarks of this level should result in his being banned.

I thought it was funny! This thread actually needs a little ADULT hummor on it.
Is this and adult, or children site?
I was kind of under the impression it was adult.
Also to add....no fowl language was used in his statment!

[Bdmcs324]

There are people on this site who are under 14. There is no age limit to be on this site, but it is the internet and people should be prepared for the worst. IMO dobie's remark was just a joke and in no way serious

[doortego]

Sorry but I found it offensive. I'm sure there are other sites that offer adult humor but I choose not to support those.

[yorkiegirl83]

Mr Moore:

In response to your post, I think you are full of crap--and that's as politely as I can put it. I've purchased dogs from breeders, and even a pet store and those dogs DID NOT GET SICK WHEN THEY CAME TO MY HOUSE. I think it's appalling and arogant of you to blame the person who buys these puppies from you only to have them a matter of hours sometimes before they have HUGE medical problems.

And if in fact it was from the puppy being transported from your "facilities" to their home -- why are you not held responsible for that? You ship your puppies.. so isn't that YOUR fault.. not the new owners.

I just find it sick that even if ONE of your dogs, let alone the countless number of them that have been reported severly ill or that DIE w/in days, that you do not make it right with these customers. You claim you're out of town? What kind of breeder would do that to a concerned and distraught new puppy owner? You can defend yourself all you want, but I do not agree with what you're doing and find you to be truly deplorable. I'm saddened by the lives that these puppies and even WORSE your breeding dogs have cooped up in cages without any love and clearly not enough medical attention.

It really is shameful.

[BrushyCreek]

Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma

Mr. Moore,
I am not understanding why the jury would award her over 100k for selling breeding rights without your permission. That doesnt make sense to me. I agree she is a loser if that is what she was doing and it does seem like all was hunkey dorey until you put the kabash on her importing dogs and making such a huge profit. She sounds like a real winner. I think what you are doing with importing all of those dogs from other counties is wrong but she doesnt sound much better. I do think you should stick up for yourself and talk to the media. So far we have only heard one side of the story and you are the only one that can answer for the allegations against you. If you are innocent, then tell us.
As far as the rest of us doing the same thing you are but on a smaller scale is pretty funny. We have the dogs in our house, they are our pets and loved dearly. I probably sell 8 dogs a year, no comparison to 1500 or however many you sell. More like tens of thousands if you are selling to these puppymills like this lady. I dont have the money to even fly to Ireland to visit, let alone make numerous trip there to bring dogs back to sell for a profit. I also have a full time job, do you, or is all of your money coming from these puppies?

Ms. Co Momma - I don't understand why a jury would award her that kind of money either. I was pretty shocked to say the least! Ms. Bushman used to be a paralegal and she apparently had some pretty good connections in finding herself some pretty high profile criminal lawyers for a civil suit (that obviously want media attention). Since I already explained how much money she made on the dogs that I fronted her, she really made a point to let the jury know that her fabulous life style with BMW's, horses, motorcycles, property in Colorado, the hugest diamond ring on her finger I have ever seen on anybody in real life, etc... I guess the jury felt sorry for her that I took that kind of income away from her. That's my theory of course along with a few other theories that I would rather not speculate on. Also to answer your question about how I make a living. Yes - I know you don't approve - but selling puppies is what I do for a living to support a wife and four children. My job isn't a 9-5 job. I work 17-18 hours a day, 7 days a week and when I go out of town I have other people that take over. As you know yourself raising puppies is far from easy and I work my tail off to keep these puppies in the best conditions and health. Our whelping unit is better than most veterinarian facilities and that's a fact. No - I'm not a vet but I think I have just as much or maybe even more experience with puppies then most vets do. When you live and breath any job and put the kind of hours I do for over the past 20 years I would say you become a professional. So yes - I vaccinate, worm, dip, clip, groom, and whelp my own dogs. This is not against the law and the last time I checked - either is having a puppy farm. I agree there are many puppy mills out there that the dogs are in terrible conditions and they do need to be closed. My kennel is not in that category. I do my best to take good care of all my animals and I think the Houston SPCA will agree with that (as you all already know). You might think it's wrong for me to make a living the way I do and your entitled to your opinion. I grew up in Ireland on a farm and my family was not well off by any means. I didn't have the priviledge of even finishing high school let alone going to college because I was needed at home to work on the farm. I know a lot about animals - all kinds of animals not just dogs. I have a lot of respect for animals and I do care about animals despite what you all think. The puppies don't leave my yard sick but like I said before we are dealing with live animals here .... I have gone into this far too many times to get into it again. Anyways... I know I'm no fan of the majority of the people on this sight but I do feel I am entitled to make a living just like anybody else and yes I like my job (most of the time) but it gets pretty difficult trying to keep up with a whole lot of bashing going on. I'm no scam artist that is out to scam people. I'm just an ordinary guy trying to make a living the best way I know how. It is pretty hurtful to think that most of the people on this sight including the media want to try and destroy a whole family's life. I do my best to fix any unfortunate situation with the pups that may arise but I can't help it if a person doesn't want to follow the contract that they themselves have signed.

Your alright Co Momma. You seem to approach things with a bit of class even though you don't agree with how I make a living. I do respect your opinion and I do appreciate the fairness you have shown on this sight (most of the time). I am only coming on to this sight because I do want you people to hear my side even if you don't like it. I have spoken to many other breeders and kennels, etc. about interviewing with the media and I have been told that they really twist things up and make a person look very bad with their cameras and editing, etc... I would like to tell my story but I need more than 3 minutes and I quite frankly don't trust the media. It is very obvious that David at Fox 26 is not a fan of mine and I don't feel I will get a fair shake. They are only interested in telling the dirt and unless he is willing to interview some happy customers I don't think want to talk to him.

[woofshepherd]

Originally Posted by doortego

This type of insinuation has no place on a public forum. Future remarks of this level should result in his being banned.

That statement was rude and uncalled for...dobie, are you the 14yr old on this site the one everyones talking about???

[yorkiegirl83]

Originally Posted by valbholmes

Here I go again. I did not get sick dogs. I am wondering how sick the dogs are that ppl have gotten, and what did they have? Was it the breeders fault, or the person who bought the dogs fault?
As for the Fox thing last night, I watched several times...what does her reputation in horses have to do with dogs?
The suit was not won over the sick dogs, the attorney said her heard testimoniy of it!
I give up on the people on this thread, for the simple fact they are not hearing what was said. Listen to it with an open mind, not one sided. that is what I did. I wanted to know if it was as bad as what people where saying on here, and I still do not see it! At least not from the Fox investigation.

We DO have open minds. But what you need to understand is that just because every single dog that has come out of his "kennel" is not sick.. that does NOT MAKE IT OKAY to do the things he has done to other people who have received sick dogs. There is no way that having a dog for a short while could make them that deathly ill... that is just another excuse. How would you feel if your dogs had gotten to your house for a few hours, gotten ridiculously violently sick and then died? Leaving you with the vet bills, the heartache, and you have paid for a dog three times over that died?

It is WRONG on all accounts, no matter how you slice it.

[yorkiegirl83]

Originally Posted by BrushyCreek

Ms. Co Momma - I don't understand why a jury would award her that kind of money either. I was pretty shocked to say the least! Ms. Bushman used to be a paralegal and she apparently had some pretty good connections in finding herself some pretty high profile criminal lawyers for a civil suit (that obviously want media attention). Since I already explained how much money she made on the dogs that I fronted her, she really made a point to let the jury know that her fabulous life style with BMW's, horses, motorcycles, property in Colorado, the hugest diamond ring on her finger I have ever seen on anybody in real life, etc... I guess the jury felt sorry for her that I took that kind of income away from her. That's my theory of course along with a few other theories that I would rather not speculate on. Also to answer your question about how I make a living. Yes - I know you don't approve - but selling puppies is what I do for a living to support a wife and four children. My job isn't a 9-5 job. I work 17-18 hours a day, 7 days a week and when I go out of town I have other people that take over. As you know yourself raising puppies is far from easy and I work my tail off to keep these puppies in the best conditions and health. Our whelping unit is better than most veterinarian facilities and that's a fact. No - I'm not a vet but I think I have just as much or maybe even more experience with puppies then most vets do. When you live and breath any job and put the kind of hours I do for over the past 20 years I would say you become a professional. So yes - I vaccinate, worm, dip, clip, groom, and whelp my own dogs. This is not against the law and the last time I checked - either is having a puppy farm. I agree there are many puppy mills out there that the dogs are in terrible conditions and they do need to be closed. My kennel is not in that category. I do my best to take good care of all my animals and I think the Houston SPCA will agree with that (as you all already know). You might think it's wrong for me to make a living the way I do and your entitled to your opinion. I grew up in Ireland on a farm and my family was not well off by any means. I didn't have the priviledge of even finishing high school let alone going to college because I was needed at home to work on the farm. I know a lot about animals - all kinds of animals not just dogs. I have a lot of respect for animals and I do care about animals despite what you all think. The puppies don't leave my yard sick but like I said before we are dealing with live animals here .... I have gone into this far too many times to get into it again. Anyways... I know I'm no fan of the majority of the people on this sight but I do feel I am entitled to make a living just like anybody else and yes I like my job (most of the time) but it gets pretty difficult trying to keep up with a whole lot of bashing going on. I'm no scam artist that is out to scam people. I'm just an ordinary guy trying to make a living the best way I know how. It is pretty hurtful to think that most of the people on this sight including the media want to try and destroy a whole family's life. I do my best to fix any unfortunate situation with the pups that may arise but I can't help it if a person doesn't want to follow the contract that they themselves have signed.

Your alright Co Momma. You seem to approach things with a bit of class even though you don't agree with how I make a living. I do respect your opinion and I do appreciate the fairness you have shown on this sight (most of the time). I am only coming on to this sight because I do want you people to hear my side even if you don't like it. I have spoken to many other breeders and kennels, etc. about interviewing with the media and I have been told that they really twist things up and make a person look very bad with their cameras and editing, etc... I would like to tell my story but I need more than 3 minutes and I quite frankly don't trust the media. It is very obvious that David at Fox 26 is not a fan of mine and I don't feel I will get a fair shake. They are only interested in telling the dirt and unless he is willing to interview some happy customers I don't think want to talk to him.

You continually skim over the major issues. Why are you selling and reselling sick puppies and then not making the situation right when one dies or becomes horribly ill?

I don't feel bad for you because people are bashing you, because clearly you have no good customer service or care for the clients that you've hurt. Even with my own personal feelings on puppy mills.. I just think that you are a terrible business person and it's unfortunate the dogs are the ones that get the brunt of it.

[BrushyCreek]

Originally Posted by woofshepherd

Sounds to me like that lady (mallory) is not any better than moore is, BOTH are in the wrong for what they are doing and did. Its puppymill VS. puppymill thats all thats about, who can get the most money out of it all. I feel sorry for all the thousands of puppies that are involved in this black market. And the people (moore, mallory, and whoever else involved) are just GREEDY MONEY hungry individuals. The real breeders have there pets as family members and treat them that way not like somekind of zoo animal confined to a cage for the rest of its life pumping out puppies left and right, and no it doesn't matter how clean and how cool and how elegant and state of the art your facility is....THE PUPPIES ARE STILL SICK.

I really don't mean to sound mean towards you and I have apologized to you over and over. Is it possible that maybe your pups picked up a virus from your place? Can you show me with some kind of proof that it is my fault? What exactly is it that you want me to do for you??? I'm really tired of listening to you so what is you want??? (be a realistic please). By the way I am not greedy. I work very hard and I am barely making ends meet. It's very expensive to maintain these puppies. And any professional in this industry can tell you how hard it is to make a living in this business. If I thought I could support my family someway better I would. Because quite frankly headaches from people like you make my life less than pleasurable. I don't know what else you want me to do for you that I haven't already done.

[BrushyCreek]

Have you ever met me or purchased a puppy from me?