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BubblPopElectrc · 11-20-2006, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patti

The thing I liked about the puppy playpen was the fact that the front zipped open so I could leave it open when she wasn't in it and she could run in and use the wee wee pad. I still have it up for that reason and she likes to go lay in there sometimes.

Oh, OK.. I didn't know those had an openable (is that even a word?

) side.

Safire · 11-20-2006, 06:29 PM

oops...never mind.

my2boyz · 11-20-2006, 06:33 PM

The side netting on a human playpen can be dangerous for puppies, they can get caught or even climb out and get hurt doing so.

Do x-pens have little rubber feet on the bottom rails? If so you could use a desk chair floor protector underneath...that would be easy to clean and it would protect your flooring. We used them under out bird cages a few years ago and they were great.

Tophersmom · 11-20-2006, 06:38 PM

It can surely be frustrating sometimes training a pup. I have a one year old male yorkie and now an 11 week old female...gosh I'm starting all over again!! lol I must have rocks in my head!!

I do agree with those who say not to put the pup on the porch. These little ones get cold very easily. They need to be in a warm secure place.

I found one thing to work when training and that is PRAISE, PRAISE, PRAISE. When Topher would go on the wee pad we would dance, whoop, say 'good boy' over and over and Topher would be just SO thrilled with himself! The silly over the top praise worked wonders with him...much better than treats. It does take a bit of effort, but let me tell you, it is truly worth it. He's a year old now and though he's very good on the pads,hes' not perfect. He still makes the odd mistake, but that's the way it is. We still praise him when we see him doing things right...he still needs that reinforcement every once and a while.

As for worrying about it being unsanitary...I wouldn't be overly concerned about it. I always keep a spray bottle on hand (one from the dollar store) with a mixture of water and a bit of bleach to spray the area to get rid of anything unsanitary.

Your frustration is normal, but don't let it get you down! These little guys can be difficult to train, but the light bulb DOES go on over the head eventually.

Until then, just hold on to your patience for the mistakes and celebrate the successes!!

OH....and welcome to Yorkietalk!!

red98vett · 11-20-2006, 06:44 PM

Hey and welcome - you did right asking people who have lots of experience with yorkies - But I have to agree with everyone - most all of us would never leave ours outside for any reason... It won't help train him and will probably only make it worse because he'll be dealing with loneliness too out there. These little guys just want to be WITH us - they don't do well being ignored or left all alone for long periods of time.

If you find yourselves wanting to leave him out all day - why not try to find a home for him where someone will give him training and not stress out over the accidents ?? He's still only a puppy & yorkies can be pretty hard to train....but if you really love him - try the solutions people posted for you and GOOD LUCK ...but please don't leave him outside !!

I Love Bailey · 11-20-2006, 06:54 PM

First of all Welcome to YT........
Please don't leave your baby on the porch, I had a co-worker that left her 4mo old yorkie on her porch (while she went in to answer the phone)and she squeezed between the railing and the wall and fell off and broke her leg. She is fine now but puppies do seem to find a way to get in trouble.
The other story I have is my girlfriend was working in her garden with her 6mo old puppy(this one was a doxy) and an eagle swooped down and took off with her dog.....true story....
The point is it is not safe and yorkies are small.
Try an xpen, but first have a serious talk with your wife about the puppy.
I would also invest in a steam cleaner...you will need that regardless of how closely you watch your dog.

Michele & Bailey

shaderhacker · 11-20-2006, 07:16 PM

All:

Thank you for all of your comments! They were quite encouraging and also allowed me to look at the reality of the situation. After talking with my wife on the phone and telling her about all the comments from various owners on this forum, she got defensive and basically it ended up in an argument. I've decided to give Peanut to a more loving and patient home. My daughter and I love him, but it's not going to do any good for our household if my wife doesn't have the same feelings.

Thanks again for the comments and suggestions.

-M

Safire · 11-20-2006, 07:44 PM

Sorry to hear your wife is being difficult...but it would be best for all involved if you found a loving home for Peanut where he could get the love and attention he deserves. It's a difficult decision and you're a good man for wanting what's best for your little pup. Good luck!

shaderhacker · 11-20-2006, 08:09 PM

Well, after another long talk with the wife, I've decided to keep Peanut. We are going to keep him in the apartment and I'm going to get him an x-pen. My wife and I don't see eye to eye on our feelings toward Peanut, but she is willing to compromise for the sake of our daughter's love for Peanut. Hopefully our feelings for him will come to a common ground the longer we have him..

-M

Tiggerwit · 11-20-2006, 08:23 PM

Hi and welcome to YT. Hang in there, not everyone is ready to jump your stuff. This is a good place to learn, if you just skip past the posts that aren't helpful.

I keep my Alphy in an apartment. He's not too keen on the pads, but we are working on it. I keep a target for him in the middle of the pad so he has something to lift his leg on. You can buy little fire hydrants at Petsmart, I think. All I can say is that Belly Bands are my friend. When I'm home I don't keep him in one and I take him out every 2 to 3 hours or if he acts like he has to go. At night or when I'm gone though, Alphy wears a belly band. Belly bands are a strip of fabric that wraps around his middle (private parts) and velcros or snaps. You place a woman's kotex pad in it. That way if he goes potty the pad should absorb the wetness. Like a diaper. He occassionally poops in the laundry room or bathroom, but that's not too bad to clean up.

Good luck with Peanut. Post some pics, if you haven't already.

Whitney

Tophersmom · 11-21-2006, 04:59 AM

It is a difficult situation if one person in the home doesn't have the same feelings toward the pup as everyone else. Let's face it...some people are really into animals and some aren't. It doesn't make them a bad person, it's just that they may not have the patience that you and I have...especially with the sometimes trying puppy phase.

Hopefully, as time goes by and the puppy stage fades, your wife will grow to love little Peanut more and more.

You obviously have the pup's best interests at heart so whatever the outcome is (whether he stays or finds another home) I know that you will have made the right decision for him (and the family).

I hope you stick around YT. It sure can be a great place for advice...and support!

MikaTallulah · 11-21-2006, 05:11 AM

What about your bathroom instead of the kitchen? You go to the bathroom there why can't your baby, too? You could also get a play pen for your little one. I found that human baby play pens are cheaper than doggy play pens. They work great as long as you are home to monitor incase the puppy starts to chew it. Hope this helps. Don't put the puppy on the porch. When I was younger my parents had their porch screened in so that they could put the dogs outside when they were not going to be home for a while +6-8hrs. They were then able to heat the porch in the winter and air condition it in the summer, but unfortunately I don't think this is an option for you. Sorry. Good luck with your pup.

GucciMyGirl · 11-21-2006, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tophersmom

It is a difficult situation if one person in the home doesn't have the same feelings toward the pup as everyone else. Let's face it...some people are really into animals and some aren't. It doesn't make them a bad person, it's just that they may not have the patience that you and I have...especially with the sometimes trying puppy phase.

Hopefully, as time goes by and the puppy stage fades, your wife will grow to love little Peanut more and more.

You obviously have the pup's best interests at heart so whatever the outcome is (whether he stays or finds another home) I know that you will have made the right decision for him (and the family).

I hope you stick around YT. It sure can be a great place for advice...and support!

Hi and welcome to YT.. I agree with this post, my husband was one who didn't ever want a dog, he grew up with parents who didn't like dogs. Low and behold my daughter went against his wishes and brought home Gucci and my husband couldn't help falling in love with her. They have bonded nicely and he looks for her and plays with her evernight, and when he is home he walks her. Go figure...lol I think you wife will come around , but please do not keep him outside, like the rest said they belong inside in a loving home. Have patience with him for this breed is hard to train. But it does happen, be consistent and PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE.. You will enjoy him for years to come. He will become part of your family.

Olivier · 11-21-2006, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Safire

Sorry to hear your wife is being difficult...but it would be best for all involved if you found a loving home for Peanut where he could get the love and attention he deserves. It's a difficult decision and you're a good man for wanting what's best for your little pup. Good luck!

Lexi Rae · 11-21-2006, 07:04 AM

he is doing the right thing by finding a better home for that poor baby.
obviously his wife is not an animal lover and thats ok, to each is own .
that puppy does not belong with that family... it would be better off
with someone who loves him and can take care of him the right way..
good luck little peanut....

11-20-2006, 06:29 PM	#47
Safire Addicted to Tetley Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 964	oops...never mind. __________________ Safire Tetley See me on Dogster: http://www.dogster.com/?452576

11-20-2006, 06:33 PM	#48
my2boyz Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my house :) Posts: 5,219	The side netting on a human playpen can be dangerous for puppies, they can get caught or even climb out and get hurt doing so. Do x-pens have little rubber feet on the bottom rails? If so you could use a desk chair floor protector underneath...that would be easy to clean and it would protect your flooring. We used them under out bird cages a few years ago and they were great. Last edited by my2boyz; 11-20-2006 at 06:35 PM.

11-20-2006, 06:38 PM	#49
Tophersmom Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sault Ste. Marie Ontario Canada Posts: 860	It can surely be frustrating sometimes training a pup. I have a one year old male yorkie and now an 11 week old female...gosh I'm starting all over again!! lol I must have rocks in my head!! I do agree with those who say not to put the pup on the porch. These little ones get cold very easily. They need to be in a warm secure place. I found one thing to work when training and that is PRAISE, PRAISE, PRAISE. When Topher would go on the wee pad we would dance, whoop, say 'good boy' over and over and Topher would be just SO thrilled with himself! The silly over the top praise worked wonders with him...much better than treats. It does take a bit of effort, but let me tell you, it is truly worth it. He's a year old now and though he's very good on the pads,hes' not perfect. He still makes the odd mistake, but that's the way it is. We still praise him when we see him doing things right...he still needs that reinforcement every once and a while. As for worrying about it being unsanitary...I wouldn't be overly concerned about it. I always keep a spray bottle on hand (one from the dollar store) with a mixture of water and a bit of bleach to spray the area to get rid of anything unsanitary. Your frustration is normal, but don't let it get you down! These little guys can be difficult to train, but the light bulb DOES go on over the head eventually. Until then, just hold on to your patience for the mistakes and celebrate the successes!! OH....and welcome to Yorkietalk!! __________________ VAL, TOPHER AND SOPHIE http://www.dogster.com/pet_page.php?j=t&i=295683

11-20-2006, 06:44 PM	#50
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	Hey and welcome - you did right asking people who have lots of experience with yorkies - But I have to agree with everyone - most all of us would never leave ours outside for any reason... It won't help train him and will probably only make it worse because he'll be dealing with loneliness too out there. These little guys just want to be WITH us - they don't do well being ignored or left all alone for long periods of time. If you find yourselves wanting to leave him out all day - why not try to find a home for him where someone will give him training and not stress out over the accidents ?? He's still only a puppy & yorkies can be pretty hard to train....but if you really love him - try the solutions people posted for you and GOOD LUCK ...but please don't leave him outside !! __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

11-20-2006, 07:44 PM	#53
Safire Addicted to Tetley Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 964	Sorry to hear your wife is being difficult...but it would be best for all involved if you found a loving home for Peanut where he could get the love and attention he deserves. It's a difficult decision and you're a good man for wanting what's best for your little pup. Good luck! __________________ Safire Tetley See me on Dogster: http://www.dogster.com/?452576

11-20-2006, 06:54 PM	#51
I Love Bailey I Love Angel too! Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 1,339	First of all Welcome to YT........ Please don't leave your baby on the porch, I had a co-worker that left her 4mo old yorkie on her porch (while she went in to answer the phone)and she squeezed between the railing and the wall and fell off and broke her leg. She is fine now but puppies do seem to find a way to get in trouble. The other story I have is my girlfriend was working in her garden with her 6mo old puppy(this one was a doxy) and an eagle swooped down and took off with her dog.....true story.... The point is it is not safe and yorkies are small. Try an xpen, but first have a serious talk with your wife about the puppy. I would also invest in a steam cleaner...you will need that regardless of how closely you watch your dog. Michele & Bailey

11-20-2006, 07:16 PM	#52
shaderhacker YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Woodland Hills, CA Posts: 7	All: Thank you for all of your comments! They were quite encouraging and also allowed me to look at the reality of the situation. After talking with my wife on the phone and telling her about all the comments from various owners on this forum, she got defensive and basically it ended up in an argument. I've decided to give Peanut to a more loving and patient home. My daughter and I love him, but it's not going to do any good for our household if my wife doesn't have the same feelings. Thanks again for the comments and suggestions. -M

11-20-2006, 08:09 PM	#54
shaderhacker YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Woodland Hills, CA Posts: 7	Update! Well, after another long talk with the wife, I've decided to keep Peanut. We are going to keep him in the apartment and I'm going to get him an x-pen. My wife and I don't see eye to eye on our feelings toward Peanut, but she is willing to compromise for the sake of our daughter's love for Peanut. Hopefully our feelings for him will come to a common ground the longer we have him.. -M

11-20-2006, 08:23 PM	#55
Tiggerwit Just me 'n my boys Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Murphy, TX Posts: 4,596	Hi and welcome to YT. Hang in there, not everyone is ready to jump your stuff. This is a good place to learn, if you just skip past the posts that aren't helpful. I keep my Alphy in an apartment. He's not too keen on the pads, but we are working on it. I keep a target for him in the middle of the pad so he has something to lift his leg on. You can buy little fire hydrants at Petsmart, I think. All I can say is that Belly Bands are my friend. When I'm home I don't keep him in one and I take him out every 2 to 3 hours or if he acts like he has to go. At night or when I'm gone though, Alphy wears a belly band. Belly bands are a strip of fabric that wraps around his middle (private parts) and velcros or snaps. You place a woman's kotex pad in it. That way if he goes potty the pad should absorb the wetness. Like a diaper. He occassionally poops in the laundry room or bathroom, but that's not too bad to clean up. Good luck with Peanut. Post some pics, if you haven't already. Whitney __________________ "Be kinder than necessary, for everyone is fighting some kind of battle." Alphy 's Roxy Last edited by Tiggerwit; 11-20-2006 at 08:26 PM.

11-21-2006, 04:59 AM	#56
Tophersmom Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sault Ste. Marie Ontario Canada Posts: 860	It is a difficult situation if one person in the home doesn't have the same feelings toward the pup as everyone else. Let's face it...some people are really into animals and some aren't. It doesn't make them a bad person, it's just that they may not have the patience that you and I have...especially with the sometimes trying puppy phase. Hopefully, as time goes by and the puppy stage fades, your wife will grow to love little Peanut more and more. You obviously have the pup's best interests at heart so whatever the outcome is (whether he stays or finds another home) I know that you will have made the right decision for him (and the family). I hope you stick around YT. It sure can be a great place for advice...and support! __________________ VAL, TOPHER AND SOPHIE http://www.dogster.com/pet_page.php?j=t&i=295683

11-21-2006, 05:11 AM	#57
MikaTallulah YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 1,812	What about your bathroom instead of the kitchen? You go to the bathroom there why can't your baby, too? You could also get a play pen for your little one. I found that human baby play pens are cheaper than doggy play pens. They work great as long as you are home to monitor incase the puppy starts to chew it. Hope this helps. Don't put the puppy on the porch. When I was younger my parents had their porch screened in so that they could put the dogs outside when they were not going to be home for a while +6-8hrs. They were then able to heat the porch in the winter and air condition it in the summer, but unfortunately I don't think this is an option for you. Sorry. Good luck with your pup.

11-21-2006, 07:04 AM	#60
Lexi Rae Gina, (Lexi's Mommy) Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: LONG ISLAND,NY Posts: 10,455	he is doing the right thing by finding a better home for that poor baby. obviously his wife is not an animal lover and thats ok, to each is own . that puppy does not belong with that family... it would be better off with someone who loves him and can take care of him the right way.. good luck little peanut.... __________________ Gina & Lexi CLICK HERE for our Photo Album ...