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11-13-2006, 02:02 PM | #16 |
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| I've never had that happen. Was he still hungry? Actually, do you think this is more likely to happen with the males than the females?
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11-13-2006, 02:03 PM | #17 | |
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11-13-2006, 02:12 PM | #18 | |
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11-14-2006, 08:20 AM | #19 |
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| Thanks for your suggestions. I do make him sit before he gets fed but I will make him wait for a couple of seconds before I let him go at it. I am telling you this thing really scared the heck out of me. To see your baby go after you like you were a stranger is really frightening. Makes you wonder how much you can really trust any dog! Carol & Buddy |
11-14-2006, 09:00 AM | #20 |
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| If it only happened once, I wouldn't be too concerned. If he does it again, here is an excellent article on how to deal with it (commonly known as object guarding): http://www.clickersolutions.com/arti...ctguarding.htm Joey had issues with this as a puppy, but thankfully we've worked through it using the methods described in the article. This particular behavior really isn't about dominance; it's about being afraid that you are going to steal his food. Understandably, it's a common behavior, especially in the wild.
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11-14-2006, 11:10 AM | #21 |
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| FirstYorkie thank you so very much for the info. Just glancing over it (i'm at work) it really looks helpful. I can't wait to read it when I get home. I think your on to something there. Carol & Buddy |
11-14-2006, 11:28 AM | #22 |
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| Let us know how it goes! It worked beautifully for us although, I must say, it didn't happen overnight. Joey used to be protective of new bones. Now, he nudges us with them because he wants us to hold them for him while he chews on them. (You can almost hear him thinking, "Man, I wish *I* had opposable thumbs. You guys are sooo lucky".) Too cute!
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11-14-2006, 11:40 AM | #23 |
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| All animals ( yes, our babies are animals ) have a very primitive instinct and that is to guard their food. Its a survival instinct. If you allow another to take your food while your hungrey and eating....you don't get to eat. But, they can be taught to trust us..by as someone stated continuously letting them know WE are the Alpha, and we will allow our pack to eat and provide for them. Yogi did this to me twice when he was about 12 months and 15 months..I made a hissing noice (thats our sound my husband and I use when we mean back off and give us your full attention) I made him back up (with physically pushing him) and told him NO very stern, and wait for 10 secs and let him go back to the food bowl. He hasn't done it again. Its not so much a behavior problem to try it, but we have to let them know, we are the last word, and attacking their pack leader is not OK, they do understand that notion especially in the dog realm.
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11-14-2006, 11:53 AM | #24 |
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| I feel so much better knowing there is an explantion. I have been feeding him for 2 1/2 yrs never anything. I guess we all have an off day. I know he realized, after the fact, what he did was wrong because he changed personalities in an instant when he realized it was me. At least I can understand what went through his head. Yes, I also hold his bone while he chomps away on it. He brings it to me. He is a love and this scared the heck out of me. Thank you so much for your help. Carol & Buddy |
11-14-2006, 11:55 AM | #25 |
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| Carol, if you feel the need to show your dog "who is alpha" as has been suggested, I doubt you'll do any harm by hissing or alpha-rolling him (despite the fact that the alpha roll is now considered to be based on flawed research). Based on what trainers have told me, though, what I really and truly believe will make things worse is to take your dog's food away from him. That's the fear motivating this behavior. Why make him even more worried about you? Feeding your dog 1/3 at the time so that he/she is forced to look to YOU for more food does show your dog "who is alpha". The dog has to look to you for food. What could be more "alpha" than that? Another good technique is hand-feeding your dog all or part of an occasional meal. Not much doubt who has control of the food then, is there? If you don't mind looking at it from a more positive stance, these techniques teach your dog that you can be trusted and that you are the source of all good things. Again, though, if it only happened once, I wouldn't be too concerned.
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11-14-2006, 12:04 PM | #26 |
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| kizzy did this to me once when i was trying to tak an old chewed up bone from her to throw away to make sure she nor maggie got choked on it. i jumped back at first , i wasnt expecting it and it actually scared me. she was ready to actually bite me i am sure. then thinking about my first reaction, i realized it was a bad thing for me to do. so i just tried again and she did the same thing, so i grabbed her by the nape of her neck, took the bone an i really shook her really hard and raised my voice really mean to her. i was about ready to pick her up and just throw her. i will not tolerate this from my own dog, even if it means the pound for her. sorry, thats just the way i feel as ive alwas had a fear of dogs if their higher than my knee, even tho she isnt that big. i still will not have a dog i get scared of and cant trust. so she has one time to bite me and she will be gone from here.
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11-14-2006, 12:07 PM | #27 | |
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11-14-2006, 12:11 PM | #28 |
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| i wont put up with one i own tellin me when to back off either for very long.
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11-14-2006, 12:14 PM | #29 |
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| [QUOTE=FirstYorkie]Carol, if you feel the need to show your dog "who is alpha" as has been suggested, I doubt you'll do any harm by hissing or alpha-rolling him (despite the fact that the alpha roll is now considered to be based on flawed research). Based on what trainers have told me, though, what I really and truly believe will make things worse is to take your dog's food away from him. That's the fear motivating this behavior. Why make him even more worried about you? Feeding your dog 1/3 at the time so that he/she is forced to look to YOU for more food does show your dog "who is alpha". The dog has to look to you for food. What could be more "alpha" than that? Another good technique is hand-feeding your dog all or part of an occasional meal. Not much doubt who has control of the food then, is there? If you don't mind looking at it from a more positive stance, these techniques teach your dog that you can be trusted and that you are the source of all good things. Again, though, if it only happened once, I wouldn't be too concerned. This is a wonderful idea...Thank-you as a reader for another way to approach this...Great information! I would like to have the same information as you about the flawless "Alpha theory" I like to be on the same page as the smarter one here.. Can you tell me a website or book I can obtain to change my mind or at least so I can offer myself a different opinion?
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11-14-2006, 12:18 PM | #30 |
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| Thank you all for all the great info...
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