Controversial email with royalpuppies.com

[eensor]

Hi YT! Just thought I'd share this with you all. Obviously, she didn't get my point!


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From: Elizabeth Ensor
Date: 05/05/05 08:52:25
To: info@royalpuppies.com
Subject: puppies

Why do you intentionally breed mixed breed puppies? It appears you are only interested in the $$$ they generate for you and that you aren't interested in the health and well-being of the puppies. I think the poor blue Maltese looks miserable! Responsible breeders breed for the continuation and improvement of the breed...not for the money! There are way too many dogs in shelters and on the streets as it is, without you intentionally creating more mixed breeds! I love my mixed breed rescue very much, but so many of them can't find homes and get put down. Think of your puppies future offspring and at least insist of spay/neuter contracts when you sell these outrageously priced mixed breeds. E. Ensor






Yes I intentionally breed mixed breed puppies!!!! Why is it with people like you that when you have a mixed breed you think that the health of the puppy is jeopardized???????? Would you apply the same principle to a white human having a child with and Asian or black man? I know of many so called snobby responsible breeders that breed for the betterment of the breed and do you know what those snobby people do when they dont get a nice puppy and they dont want their names attached to this puppy???? Well they put that puppy down!!! What a nice way to improve the breed. I breed for the love of dogs and also as a way for my family to survive. My husband is disabled and I have 5 kids at home to survive with and you have the nerve to tell me this. Well shame on you lady. People have a choice, to buy or not buy. If they are not interested then they can go elsewhere. Do you also take the time to contact all breeders and pet shops around the world to give you judgement on them like you just did with me? In fact, I do sell with non breeding.

Take for example a golden retriever. I used to have one and the hair loss on this dog was horrible and we had to give her away because of allergies. The temperament of this dog is wonderful however there is a big down side to it which is hair loss. Now, some breeders have crossed them with poodle which give a non shedding dog. This is perfect for a family wanting a big family dog but with no shedding.

Why would my poor blue maltese look miserable????? Dont you get it lady. Do you think that the maltese on Pet Celebrity looks miserable too . I mean its pink????? I guess some close minded people should not look as far as Im concerned.

Dont you have better things to do with your life right now? God has created humans and dogs and whether they are purebred or not they are still entitled to be loved. The same question can be asked to a couple suffering from infertility and that goes through in vitro spending thousands of dollars in care when there are thousands of children dying in this world???????? But hey who am I to judge!

[wollfy]

Eensor, you tell them. I hate it when people do that. I can understand accidental breeding thats ok.No Offense to any breeders or own. But some people breed for the money. Mix breeds I love them I have a poodle/schnauzer. I adore her and love her with all of my heart.

But are some breeders are trying to improve the breeder while others trying to put it to shame? Help me out here!

[devotedtoyou]

UH OH ........................................! Here we go...

[eensor]

LOL! that's why i put controversial in the title!

[Biddy's Mom]

OK - this kind of goes back to my thread earlier this week about peoples' views of mixed-breed dogs. Biddy is a mixed breed (yorkie/jack russell). She was bred this way on purpose. The breeder was a friend of my parents and has bred this combination in the past. All of these puppies are in great health & have excellent temperment. I would not change a thing about her - she is absolutley perfect. I feel like I am constantly being judged because she is a mix breed! She was not a rescue - she was a mixed breed bought on purpose. We paid $400 for her which I don't think is outrageous, but I am constantly made to feel shameful! I understand wanting to keep up with breed standards, (my younger pup Tucker is purebred) but there are also fantastic mixed breed dogs out there. Also, there are plenty of pure bred dogs that end up in rescue as well as mixed breeds. I am not trying to argue or disvalue your opinion, I am just stating my point of view as a mixed breed owner...

[Breeze]

Breeders like that make me so angry! Good for you for telling her. They care nothing about anyone or anything else besides their selfish needs and $$$. I'm fuming

[Anjlka]

Of course people breed for the money, I don't care how much you love the breed. If they didn't the cost to buy a puppy would simply be the costs the breeder accrued, i.e vet bills etc.. Yes I agree there are MANY unwated pets that end up in shelters, however if they are in demand of course they are going to sell and be purchased by breeders, and really it's highly unlikely that someone is going to take a puppy they paid tons of money for to a shelter, most people when they are spending that kind of money do their research on the breeder and the breed (if they don't, no one is at fault but themselves).

There is no indication on her website that her puppies are mistreated in anyway, and I think it is wrong of all of you to insinuate that. And I'm sorry but I have to agree with the women from royalpuppies.com on many of her points..

I mean my god this started because someone posted a picture of a Blue Maltese, and look how blown out of proportion this has gotten.

[rrosenberry]

I don't know... I see both sides.. people wouldnt be breeding these dogs if they weren't in demand,,,, supply and demand!
So as long as people buy them ( and if its what you want,,, why not) people will continue to breed them.
My girlfriend just payed 400.00 for poodle/ pom mix pups.. and they are the cutest,,, furry little balls! ( she got 2 sisters).

[eensor]

I would never want you to feel bad about your dog! I too have a mixed breed that I love dearly...I just don't think people should do this on purpose. JMO

[Biddy's Mom]

Originally Posted by eensor

I would never want you to feel bad about your dog! I too have a mixed breed that I love dearly...I just don't think people should do this on purpose. JMO

I know that your intentions are good - believe me there are no hard feelings. It just seems that people are ok with mixed breeds if they are "rescue" dogs, but once that find out that they were intentionally bred that way they look at you a little differently. Whenever I see other Yorkie owners at the park they always ask me about Biddy (she looks like a yorkie - but a little different). When they find out that she is a mix (especially if they find out it was intentional) they sort of turn their noses up at us. Believe me I see both sides, but it just really bothers me when people judge me (or worse - judge Biddy!!).

[wollfy]

I am sorry. I should I have never started a thread about that. I just want everyone to see and state their opinions about it. I didn't mean to start agruments(sp) or anything. I am very sorry if I upset anyone.

[Chelsie1978]

Actually,I think you both have a point.I can understand that yorkie breeders cant think why anybody would mix a breed on purpose,let alone sell it for the same price as a pure bred,this has got to be like a punch in the stomache for breeders..but the fact is that there is a demand for certain mixed breeds and whilst there is,they will be bred and of course sold.I actually like most mixed breeds,I think some are very pretty..so would I buy one? Yes,but I must say that I wouldent expect to pay even half of what a pure bred costs,I wouldent even pay $100 for a mixed breed.That said,I dont think that mix breeding shames a breed at all either..there will always be breeders out there that breed purebred yorkies (or other breeds) for those that want one,but those breeders cant expect control the breed all over the world and keep going on and on about making the breed more and more perfect with each litter.What I dont understand is why must breeders only breed to make the breed more and more wonderful? Cant anyone just breed their dog because it has a wonderful temperament,because its beautiul or because they love the breed? Why must you only breed if you have the perfect dog,with an exact certain size,with a perfect coat..etc?? I think this is just over doing it sometimes because we dont all want a super perfect dog with an on the dot size etc,some of us just want a companion of a certain breed.
I know a woman on another forum whos daughter breeds morkies (yorkie/maltese) and I must say that they are beautiful! I dont think she is shaming any of either breeds..infact,I think she has put two beautiful breeds together and made a truly perfect and beautiful dog with a great temperament and beautiful hair etc
Iv had mutts all my life..as a child there wasnt enough money t have purebreds so we had rescue mutts or bought mutts and none had health problems due to being mixed.This is just my opinion..I respect everybodys point of view so please respect mine too Those who want a mixed breed should be able to find one,the same as those who want a perfect purebred should be able to find one too Life isnt always black or white,we dont all want the same things

[browniesmom622]

there wont be any arguements cause no matter what kind of dog they are or how they were brought into this world they still need a home and they deserve to be loved they didnt asked to be brought into this world just remember that !

[debi_s]

I hate to jump in such a controversial subject.......but I had a conversation with a friend just this afternoon. It seems "designer puppies" are quite the rage.....a very popular and desired pup to get.

Many are mixing ...yorkie/chihuahua.......yorkie/poodle.......poodle/retriever........etc.....
just to get certain prefered qualities from both breeds.

But I also have the feeling many puppies from these mixed breedings do not turn out quite as expected by following many rescue sites. The yorkie/chihuahua mix is ADORABLE if the pup has the hair and face of the yorkie..but the pup with the primary chi features looks like a big eared "bat-dog".

I paid $300 for a yorkie/chihuahua mix several months ago. I did not go out looking for that mix puppy, but came across it by accident and the pup was "pure yorkie" to me....she was adorable .... She died shortly after I got her....her tiny size made treating her impossible.

I do understand mixing certain breeds on purpose.........but why a "blue maltese"????? (PS..I still have not read that thread...)

And....the breeders argument about a bi-racial baby doesn't make sense.....a black person & a white person don't "mate" just to see what kind of baby they get........that's dumb....they get together because they love each other and the children are a natural result. I doubt a yorkie/poodle are capable of making that kind of commitment...

[fasteddie]

Mixed breeding or not, did you guys see the colored dogs they have? Just doesn't seem right to me!

http://royalpuppies.com/bloopers.htm