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SoCalyorkiLvr · 05-06-2005, 08:36 AM

Pebblemamma:

Thanks!

I loved yours too!

Marlee · 05-06-2005, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by pebblesmama

I heartyorkies - I live in Idaho

socalyorkilvr - Thank you - your post was intelligent, wonderfully stated, and right on!

Hey Pebblesmama,
What part of Idaho, it is nice to see someone from the same area!
I live in Caldwell

pebblesmama · 05-06-2005, 08:54 AM

No way! I live in Homedale and I work in Nampa!

Marlee · 05-06-2005, 08:59 AM

Cool, I have a YT buddy that is next door!!
We should have a doggie play date or something
Sorry I never meet anyone in my neck of the woods!

pebblesmama · 05-06-2005, 09:05 AM

How fun! I bet we have probably run into each other without knowing at Zamzow's or D&B without knowing it!

Marlee · 05-06-2005, 09:11 AM

probably, I am there at D&B all the time latley trying to get my front yard in shape. LOL, How cool, it is a mall world!

mickeyisagyrl · 05-06-2005, 11:31 AM

My only good thing to say about mixed breeds is that they often have less health problems. I don't know how, but they are less likely to have the common health problems in each breed individually.

Marlee · 05-06-2005, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mickeyisagyrl

My only good thing to say about mixed breeds is that they often have less health problems. I don't know how, but they are less likely to have the common health problems in each breed individually.

What about that mix breeds make good loving pets? All breeds are mixed and some point, you name it and I gaurntee that somewhere in those lines you have two or more breeds that have been crossed in order to achiev this newer breed, and those were also crossed at one point. Yes I love my dogs, and I got yorkies becasue I loved the breed, and it was always one I wanted to have. But I wouldnt trade my half breed mutts I have had over the years, they were specail and beatuiful companions until they were no longer with us.

So many of these statments that have been made weather they were meant to or not have been so rude. Sounds like everyone would prefer only the purebreed animals, yet at one time, our little yorkies were considered a mutt to!

Rem&Silkmom · 05-06-2005, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by debi_s

I hate to jump in such a controversial subject.......but I had a conversation with a friend just this afternoon. It seems "designer puppies" are quite the rage.....a very popular and desired pup to get.

Many are mixing ...yorkie/chihuahua.......yorkie/poodle.......poodle/retriever........etc.....
just to get certain prefered qualities from both breeds.

But I also have the feeling many puppies from these mixed breedings do not turn out quite as expected by following many rescue sites. The yorkie/chihuahua mix is ADORABLE if the pup has the hair and face of the yorkie..but the pup with the primary chi features looks like a big eared "bat-dog".

I paid $300 for a yorkie/chihuahua mix several months ago. I did not go out looking for that mix puppy, but came across it by accident and the pup was "pure yorkie" to me....she was adorable .... She died shortly after I got her....her tiny size made treating her impossible.

I do understand mixing certain breeds on purpose.........but why a "blue maltese"????? (PS..I still have not read that thread...)

And....the breeders argument about a bi-racial baby doesn't make sense.....a black person & a white person don't "mate" just to see what kind of baby they get........that's dumb....they get together because they love each other and the children are a natural result. I doubt a yorkie/poodle are capable of making that kind of commitment...

I agree...we are talking about two dogs that are not capble of making those choices...its is the owners responsiblity to make the right choices

royalpuppies · 05-06-2005, 02:21 PM

Hello all!

I have never been here before so its my first post. I feel very sad that some of you are so judgemental of me without personally knowing me and my family. I have even read a post suggesting I get a normal job? Well for those of you who dont know, my husband has a stroke and he is 75% blind. So for me to work outside the home would mean hiring a babysitter full time for him. With the 5 kids around then its quite impossible. And now, my husband is now loving to take care of them with me as we now share a lot of the work together.

I have read a post about the Yorkshire Terrier being crossed before for a specific purpose. In fact, the Yorkshire Terrier was originally bred to kill rats and vermine on ships and mines. It was not the same size as it is today. Later on, the ladies wanted a little lap dog so they crossed the Yorkie with a maltese. This is why now when you have a yorkie puppy you can see some with white markings on them. To say it was bred for a specific purpose, I dont think size fits into this category.

As for dying the maltese hair. If you can read you will be able to see that these dogs were not hurt in any way. In fact, we used a special dye made for dogs which I order from a groomer. In my opinion I think its funky and nice but why am I being fingerpointed for doing it. If you dont like it thats fine but dont bring me down because of it.

You see, I have not read all of the postings as they are quite long. But I applaud some of you for your nice comments on not judging me before really knowing.

I also resent the fact that this Elizabeth Ensor sent me a private email with my private response and posted this on this bb. I wish she would have invited me first to come here and have a debate of some kind instead of going behind my back. I really have nothing to hide but would have liked the fact to be notified or asked before posting this on this bb.

You see , I dont know what is wrong with people having something against a breeder that breeds for the love of dogs and to make money as well. I love my dogs so why is it so bad? Contrary to some show breeders who subsidize their show rings with the selling of their dogs in return for recognition and/or prestige. What is the difference ? Who am I to judge what is the right thing to do?

I am an honest breeder who is trying to survive and I would NEVER NEVER hurt my dogs in any way. As for the morkies, well I breed them because of the demand. The first 4 who were kind of accidental in nature are now the results of numerous enquiries and demands. So now they are not bred accidentally. I find them absolutely adorable, extremely smart and affectionate.

All I can say now is how sad I feel reading some of the posts which are truly hurting to me. I doubt that you will find any of my puppies in a shelter. I would take back any of my dogs at any time.

Hope that some of you find it in your heart to see that I am not as bad as depicted. I do it for the love of dogs and to survive.

I resent being fingerpointed by this lady to later find my post on this bb. I would like to thank the lady who emailed me privately to let me know what was going on. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but to make their opinions and criticize someone specifically without their knowledge is low. We call this a backstabber.

What kind of person would email you personally, await your response to later post all of this on this bb? I think you all have the answer to that. Hope it never happens to you.

Wishing you all the best!

Chelsie1978 · 05-06-2005, 03:01 PM

Royalyorkies..I dont think you are doing anything wrong,infact,I think that some mixes are beautiful and we should be able to find one if thats what we want

There will always be pure breds out there for those that want one and in my opinion mixing does not ruin a breed at all..infact I dont understand those breeders that go on and on about making the breed totally perfect with each litter because perfection just doesnt exist.Sure,they could end up with a textbook perfect yorkie..but then what??? What next??
I am going to breed my female,but whilst I was making this desition I kept being asked questions like "does she have a desirable coat" or "her snout is too long" or "she has a stocky body" or "what sort of genes does she have" etc etc..all these were supposed to make me NOT want to breed her and I think its silly.When I breed Jess I may not be perfecting the breed..but dont worry..Im in europe!! You wont have to deal with it lol.
What I mean is..Jessies yorkie pups may not be totally perfect,but they will be yorkies (or morkies..we shall see

) and they will be mine and I will love them.
As usual we all have to agree to disagree and keep on smiling

No body here has judged you royal..you have your reasons for doing what you are doing and its none of my buisness,you dont need to explain yourself

This was a very interesting thread

SoCalyorkiLvr · 05-06-2005, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chelsie1978

What I mean is..Jessies yorkie pups may not be totally perfect,but they will be yorkies (or morkies..we shall see

) and they will be mine and I will love them.

Gina:

That is my point exactly. I think you should be able to breed your precious Jess without being criticized by those who feel you should only breed if your sole purpose is to "improve the breed". I enjoy being educated about all of the facts, good and bad, about breeding and allowing people to then make an educated and well thought decision about what to do based on thier own values and what's most important to them.

Royalpuppies:

Welcome to Yorkie Talk. I wish your first post could have been under better circumstances. I think your puppies are really cute and, from what I saw on your website and what you said in your post you truly do care about your dogs. Thank you for participating and we welcome you to stay and become an active member. We could learn a lot from you.

jesscruz · 05-06-2005, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Itspuppyluv

Go to www.royalpuppies.com and click Morkie Breed info. Dazzle is the first Morkie (and one of the cutest) I'd ever seen and made me want one. IMO, the only down side is you can't really tell what they are going to look like from puppy to adult. I searched for a while and found quite a few pictures. Some grew to look nothing like I thought they would from their puppy pictures.

Wanted to add they are also called Yorktese, Yorkitese, Yorkese if anyone is searching for one.

thank you, i must say they are too cute you know i actually don't even see much of a difference between the morkies or yorkies other than the color. they look the same to me....

thier adorable.

lovefor3yorkies · 05-06-2005, 04:23 PM

I don't have a problem with it and see her point of veiw. If no one bought them they wouldn't be red. AND where do you think all the breeds we have now came from--mixing breeds.

ssguzzy828 · 05-06-2005, 04:44 PM

Welcome Royalpuppies

. I thought your pups were very cute and sorry to hear about your husband. I hope you continue to post its always interesting to hear different breeders expieriences. I will say we do like a good debate on yorkie talk but dont be offended these are all opinions. We are all entitled to them and entitled to express them. So welcome again !!

05-06-2005, 08:59 AM	#64
Marlee YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Caldwell Idaho Posts: 956	Cool, I have a YT buddy that is next door!! We should have a doggie play date or something Sorry I never meet anyone in my neck of the woods! __________________ Marlee Bridget's Mommy Bridget 's Romeo

05-06-2005, 09:11 AM	#66
Marlee YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Caldwell Idaho Posts: 956	probably, I am there at D&B all the time latley trying to get my front yard in shape. LOL, How cool, it is a mall world! __________________ Marlee Bridget's Mommy Bridget 's Romeo

05-06-2005, 02:21 PM	#70
royalpuppies Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 73	Its me ! Hello all! I have never been here before so its my first post. I feel very sad that some of you are so judgemental of me without personally knowing me and my family. I have even read a post suggesting I get a normal job? Well for those of you who dont know, my husband has a stroke and he is 75% blind. So for me to work outside the home would mean hiring a babysitter full time for him. With the 5 kids around then its quite impossible. And now, my husband is now loving to take care of them with me as we now share a lot of the work together. I have read a post about the Yorkshire Terrier being crossed before for a specific purpose. In fact, the Yorkshire Terrier was originally bred to kill rats and vermine on ships and mines. It was not the same size as it is today. Later on, the ladies wanted a little lap dog so they crossed the Yorkie with a maltese. This is why now when you have a yorkie puppy you can see some with white markings on them. To say it was bred for a specific purpose, I dont think size fits into this category. As for dying the maltese hair. If you can read you will be able to see that these dogs were not hurt in any way. In fact, we used a special dye made for dogs which I order from a groomer. In my opinion I think its funky and nice but why am I being fingerpointed for doing it. If you dont like it thats fine but dont bring me down because of it. You see, I have not read all of the postings as they are quite long. But I applaud some of you for your nice comments on not judging me before really knowing. I also resent the fact that this Elizabeth Ensor sent me a private email with my private response and posted this on this bb. I wish she would have invited me first to come here and have a debate of some kind instead of going behind my back. I really have nothing to hide but would have liked the fact to be notified or asked before posting this on this bb. You see , I dont know what is wrong with people having something against a breeder that breeds for the love of dogs and to make money as well. I love my dogs so why is it so bad? Contrary to some show breeders who subsidize their show rings with the selling of their dogs in return for recognition and/or prestige. What is the difference ? Who am I to judge what is the right thing to do? I am an honest breeder who is trying to survive and I would NEVER NEVER hurt my dogs in any way. As for the morkies, well I breed them because of the demand. The first 4 who were kind of accidental in nature are now the results of numerous enquiries and demands. So now they are not bred accidentally. I find them absolutely adorable, extremely smart and affectionate. All I can say now is how sad I feel reading some of the posts which are truly hurting to me. I doubt that you will find any of my puppies in a shelter. I would take back any of my dogs at any time. Hope that some of you find it in your heart to see that I am not as bad as depicted. I do it for the love of dogs and to survive. I resent being fingerpointed by this lady to later find my post on this bb. I would like to thank the lady who emailed me privately to let me know what was going on. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but to make their opinions and criticize someone specifically without their knowledge is low. We call this a backstabber. What kind of person would email you personally, await your response to later post all of this on this bb? I think you all have the answer to that. Hope it never happens to you. Wishing you all the best!

05-06-2005, 08:36 AM	#61
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	Pebblemamma: Thanks! I loved yours too!

05-06-2005, 08:54 AM	#63
pebblesmama Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 86	No way! I live in Homedale and I work in Nampa!

05-06-2005, 09:05 AM	#65
pebblesmama Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 86	How fun! I bet we have probably run into each other without knowing at Zamzow's or D&B without knowing it!

05-06-2005, 11:31 AM	#67
mickeyisagyrl Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Depends on the time of year, but almost always VA Posts: 88	My only good thing to say about mixed breeds is that they often have less health problems. I don't know how, but they are less likely to have the common health problems in each breed individually.

05-06-2005, 03:01 PM	#71
Chelsie1978 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mallorca-Spain Posts: 379	Royalyorkies..I dont think you are doing anything wrong,infact,I think that some mixes are beautiful and we should be able to find one if thats what we want There will always be pure breds out there for those that want one and in my opinion mixing does not ruin a breed at all..infact I dont understand those breeders that go on and on about making the breed totally perfect with each litter because perfection just doesnt exist.Sure,they could end up with a textbook perfect yorkie..but then what??? What next?? I am going to breed my female,but whilst I was making this desition I kept being asked questions like "does she have a desirable coat" or "her snout is too long" or "she has a stocky body" or "what sort of genes does she have" etc etc..all these were supposed to make me NOT want to breed her and I think its silly.When I breed Jess I may not be perfecting the breed..but dont worry..Im in europe!! You wont have to deal with it lol. What I mean is..Jessies yorkie pups may not be totally perfect,but they will be yorkies (or morkies..we shall see ) and they will be mine and I will love them. As usual we all have to agree to disagree and keep on smiling No body here has judged you royal..you have your reasons for doing what you are doing and its none of my buisness,you dont need to explain yourself This was a very interesting thread

05-06-2005, 04:23 PM	#74
lovefor3yorkies Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Graniteville, SC Posts: 206	I don't have a problem with it and see her point of veiw. If no one bought them they wouldn't be red. AND where do you think all the breeds we have now came from--mixing breeds.

05-06-2005, 04:44 PM	#75
ssguzzy828 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: south suburbs of illinois Posts: 734	Welcome Royalpuppies . I thought your pups were very cute and sorry to hear about your husband. I hope you continue to post its always interesting to hear different breeders expieriences. I will say we do like a good debate on yorkie talk but dont be offended these are all opinions. We are all entitled to them and entitled to express them. So welcome again !!