adorable blonde morkie/ will he stay blonde?

[RLC12345678]

Originally Posted by Breeze

I'm sorry, but this is one of the reasons why we see so many posts on YT and other places about people having sick puppies. You should care, really.

I said HEALTHY. There has to be some care that goes into picking a HEALTHY puppy. But certainly breeders are not the ONLY place you can buy HEALTHY puppies.

[chachi]

I dont understand why anyone would purchase a yorkie from a broker. They pay alot of money for a dog they know nothing about. And I dont show but I still want the best quality yorkie for my money who wouldnt?

[honeybrown_43]

Originally Posted by diva pup

Because whether you want to face it or not most brokered pups come from mills. Most mills do not have excellent examples of the breed. This is a fact of life, are you going to argue that point too?
Anyway,I was generalizing when I made that statement, not directing it at anybody in particular and the statement was all inclusive on looks, health, quality etc etc etc...You can take it personally and be insulting if you like, it makes no difference to me.

Well I don't know where other dogs come from but MY DOG didn't come from a Mill and she IS an excellent example of the breed AND I got her from a broker!! I know who the parents are and if need be I have the papers to register her AKC but since I'm not breeding her I see no need to do that! I have a Healthy Beautiful Dog which I got from a Broker and I wouldn't change that for the world!

[yorkieusa]

Originally Posted by diva pup

I hate to rain on anybodys parade but I have seen this person advertised on here more than once and a couple of other forums too. I do want to point out that Top Knotch is a PUPPY BROKER.

What breeders do you think they get their puppies from? I don't know a reputable breeder that would sell their pups to a broker

On their "About Us" page, it states:

Ours is a family business. You will either hear from Susan (Nana to the Pups) or Shannon. We are mother and daughter and business partners. We recently took on a new partner. Her name is Jessica and she will be running our retail store and grooming salon. Our new home is presently under renovation and we will be opening soon. Al (Poppy) lends a hand when needed. When Poppy watches Tv, a pup always sits on his shoulder. Everyone gets a turn watching TV with Poppy. Our pups are raised underfoot and properly spoiled. Whether they are born to us or from one of our breeders, they spend sufficient time with us before being offered to new families. Every one of our breeders has been personally visited (including our Brazilian breeders). We do not receive puppies from breeders we have not visited. Our pups come pre-mauled by our granddaughter Maggie Mae. Many have been stuffed in a doll stroller, dressed in doggy clothes and carted around like all treasured pups should be, but of course with the utmost of care. When you enter our house, you are informed of the "Everybody holds a puppy rule". Our pups are not handled by anyone except us until they have had at least 2 puppy shots. Ours is not a pet store so our pups are not looked at casually. They are shown by appointment only and the number of people kept to a minimum. We ask each person who visits us to please not visit a breeder or pet store prior to coming to see our pups.

[bonmur]

Years and years ago we had shelties We used these shelties for running sheep. These were working dogs and usually if you had a good herder then you could expect some good herders out of the parents. 3 of our top workers were set to retire in 3-4 years so we decided a planned breeding would yield us the replacements we needed. We did the breeding and got a litter of 6 only 2 proved to be of the working calider of thier parents the other 4 were great examples of the breed but being jsut pups it was unclear as to whether they would be great conformationally . We sold 1 immediately but were set to move sheep and did not want momma worrying about the other 3.. through word of mouth a lady called us wanting a pup for breeding to her female in later years, She claimed ot be a herder herself and worked in trials. We agreed to sell her a pup. She came and decided on the remaining 3 instead. We were asking dirt cheap prices and offered their papers. 1 was limited but the 2 males that were great representatives we gave full with breeding rights.
Months go buy and I email her she tells me how they are doing etc. finally almost a year later a lady calls me mad and upset because I sold her a sheltie that was guaranteed to be a mini ( no, I never guarantee size these were breed standard size) We got to talking and it wasnt I who she bought a pup from. The broker cam bought up all of my pups and marked them all up.The ladt was PISSED as I would have been. I explained to her my situation and she decided to call her. I finally got in touch with her and found out she has about 20 different phone numbers all for different breeds of dogs.She cant even keep them straight. I sold her 2 papered males and 1 with limited. I got a call from AKC about a lady who acquired a male from the same lady . She was provided papers but she had altered the papers to say it was a female.Luckily I had tons of picture, bills of sal and copies of their AKC papers to help the AKC catch her. SHe is still inbusiness but I felt so bad for my babies. I do know where 2 of them are, The one lady thought she was getting a chihuahua sized sheltie! That was the one I felt bad for and I eventually bought him back from her. SInce she did not like him becasue he was nto going to be an odd sized sheltie but an actual standard sheltie. I rehomed him for no money and we dont have sheep anymore. Our oldest jsut passed on at 14.
They are tricky buggars though.
Bonnie

[honeybrown_43]

Originally Posted by yorkieusa

On their "About Us" page, it states:

Ours is a family business. You will either hear from Susan (Nana to the Pups) or Shannon. We are mother and daughter and business partners. We recently took on a new partner. Her name is Jessica and she will be running our retail store and grooming salon. Our new home is presently under renovation and we will be opening soon. Al (Poppy) lends a hand when needed. When Poppy watches Tv, a pup always sits on his shoulder. Everyone gets a turn watching TV with Poppy. Our pups are raised underfoot and properly spoiled. Whether they are born to us or from one of our breeders, they spend sufficient time with us before being offered to new families. Every one of our breeders has been personally visited (including our Brazilian breeders). We do not receive puppies from breeders we have not visited. Our pups come pre-mauled by our granddaughter Maggie Mae. Many have been stuffed in a doll stroller, dressed in doggy clothes and carted around like all treasured pups should be, but of course with the utmost of care. When you enter our house, you are informed of the "Everybody holds a puppy rule". Our pups are not handled by anyone except us until they have had at least 2 puppy shots. Ours is not a pet store so our pups are not looked at casually. They are shown by appointment only and the number of people kept to a minimum. We ask each person who visits us to please not visit a breeder or pet store prior to coming to see our pups.

Very honest about what she does and how she runs her business.

[miezzi]

Originally Posted by diva pup

You know I wish that you all would pick a side of the fence and stay there. Either you are for puppymills and brokers who buy from them or you are against them. I see more threads on here about puppies that are bought from a non reputable breeder and or a pet store/broker or straight from a mill and the whining begins about how these people are bad and there puppy is not what they expected or worse... sick.

The only way to put bad breeders out of business is to NOT BUY FROM THESE PLACES. Gosh!! I wish you all would figure it out. Of COURSE they are nice when you speak to them... THEY WANT YOUR MONEY.

IMO you would be doing the yorkshire terrier breed a service if INSTEAD of giving kudos to the brokers and bybs you suggest that people go to a reputable breeder to begin with. Then you do not have to worry about Mills, brokers, scammers etc etc etc..

BTW... there are PLENTY of mills in Brazil.

I do agree with you on that one! I could not have said it better myself....

[Breeze]

I have to say even Jeff Dane sounds like a wonderful caring breeder on his site and too many have all seen that he is anything but.

I am not saying this about the breeder mentioned in this thread, just that caring, fancy words on a website can be done by anyone, good and bad.

[yorkieusa]

Originally Posted by honeybrown_43

Very honest about what she does and how she runs her business.

I love your puppy. She's cuter than cute. But I would never, ever, in a million years buy a pup from these people or any broker. I wouldn't criticize you for doing so. I live in the midwest. It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that some of those dogs in their business came from the midwest. There are a lot of mills in KS/OK/MO/AR and they sell to brokers and pet stores. It gives me the creeps, because I've seen horrible pictures and read horrible stories about them. That's all. That is just how I feel. And now the Amish are starting to move in here and they raise puppies, too. But to them they are just another "crop". The USDA was just here inspecting them. As if that means anything! Every puppy that comes from a mill isn't sick, nor does it have genetic problems, but my heart couldn't take getting one that did.

[honeybrown_43]

Originally Posted by Breeze

I have to say even Jeff Dane sounds like a wonderful caring breeder on his site and too many have all seen that he is anything but.

I am not saying this about the breeder mentioned in this thread, just that caring, fancy words on a website can be done by anyone, good and bad.

Tru! This is why you do your research. I didn't just go to her site and say ok i'm buying a pup from her. I called her emailed back and forth and got TONS of references. She even gave me her vets number without me even asking. If I could not have gotten all of this I definetly would not have bought a dog from her.

Matter of fact she was referred to me by somebody off here!

[Zoey's Momma]

I love Yorkies and Maltese the same, but why would they breed female Maltese with tiny Yorkie males? That's nuts! I have nothing againist Morkies or whatever, but I rather a pure bred pup. I wouldn't want to buy a "designer breed," for nearly the same price as a good pure bred pup! this is just my opinion.

[txshopper73]

Originally Posted by bonmur

Years and years ago we had shelties We used these shelties for running sheep. These were working dogs and usually if you had a good herder then you could expect some good herders out of the parents. 3 of our top workers were set to retire in 3-4 years so we decided a planned breeding would yield us the replacements we needed. We did the breeding and got a litter of 6 only 2 proved to be of the working calider of thier parents the other 4 were great examples of the breed but being jsut pups it was unclear as to whether they would be great conformationally . We sold 1 immediately but were set to move sheep and did not want momma worrying about the other 3.. through word of mouth a lady called us wanting a pup for breeding to her female in later years, She claimed ot be a herder herself and worked in trials. We agreed to sell her a pup. She came and decided on the remaining 3 instead. We were asking dirt cheap prices and offered their papers. 1 was limited but the 2 males that were great representatives we gave full with breeding rights.
Months go buy and I email her she tells me how they are doing etc. finally almost a year later a lady calls me mad and upset because I sold her a sheltie that was guaranteed to be a mini ( no, I never guarantee size these were breed standard size) We got to talking and it wasnt I who she bought a pup from. The broker cam bought up all of my pups and marked them all up.The ladt was PISSED as I would have been. I explained to her my situation and she decided to call her. I finally got in touch with her and found out she has about 20 different phone numbers all for different breeds of dogs.She cant even keep them straight. I sold her 2 papered males and 1 with limited. I got a call from AKC about a lady who acquired a male from the same lady . She was provided papers but she had altered the papers to say it was a female.Luckily I had tons of picture, bills of sal and copies of their AKC papers to help the AKC catch her. SHe is still inbusiness but I felt so bad for my babies. I do know where 2 of them are, The one lady thought she was getting a chihuahua sized sheltie! That was the one I felt bad for and I eventually bought him back from her. SInce she did not like him becasue he was nto going to be an odd sized sheltie but an actual standard sheltie. I rehomed him for no money and we dont have sheep anymore. Our oldest jsut passed on at 14.
They are tricky buggars though.
Bonnie

That is horrible! I'm so sorry that you had to deal with the likeness of her!

[JCarlson2004]

Originally Posted by bonmur

Years and years ago we had shelties We used these shelties for running sheep. These were working dogs and usually if you had a good herder then you could expect some good herders out of the parents. 3 of our top workers were set to retire in 3-4 years so we decided a planned breeding would yield us the replacements we needed. We did the breeding and got a litter of 6 only 2 proved to be of the working calider of thier parents the other 4 were great examples of the breed but being jsut pups it was unclear as to whether they would be great conformationally . We sold 1 immediately but were set to move sheep and did not want momma worrying about the other 3.. through word of mouth a lady called us wanting a pup for breeding to her female in later years, She claimed ot be a herder herself and worked in trials. We agreed to sell her a pup. She came and decided on the remaining 3 instead. We were asking dirt cheap prices and offered their papers. 1 was limited but the 2 males that were great representatives we gave full with breeding rights.
Months go buy and I email her she tells me how they are doing etc. finally almost a year later a lady calls me mad and upset because I sold her a sheltie that was guaranteed to be a mini ( no, I never guarantee size these were breed standard size) We got to talking and it wasnt I who she bought a pup from. The broker cam bought up all of my pups and marked them all up.The ladt was PISSED as I would have been. I explained to her my situation and she decided to call her. I finally got in touch with her and found out she has about 20 different phone numbers all for different breeds of dogs.She cant even keep them straight. I sold her 2 papered males and 1 with limited. I got a call from AKC about a lady who acquired a male from the same lady . She was provided papers but she had altered the papers to say it was a female.Luckily I had tons of picture, bills of sal and copies of their AKC papers to help the AKC catch her. SHe is still inbusiness but I felt so bad for my babies. I do know where 2 of them are, The one lady thought she was getting a chihuahua sized sheltie! That was the one I felt bad for and I eventually bought him back from her. SInce she did not like him becasue he was nto going to be an odd sized sheltie but an actual standard sheltie. I rehomed him for no money and we dont have sheep anymore. Our oldest jsut passed on at 14.
They are tricky buggars though.
Bonnie

I can't even imagine how upset you must have been. I'm sorry you had to go through that.

[baby03]

Originally Posted by txshopper73

Excellent point. Many would NEVER buy from a pet store yet they think it's okay to buy from a broker. Yet, brokering is essentially the same thing as a pet store...just without the store front...just as you stated.

Totally!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lorraine]

I breed Yorkies, have litters on occasion, hoping for that next show dog. I train and show them myself. I do sell a pup that isn't a show dog for a pet to approved homes only.
I don't use my dogs as a business, I work for my living, my dogs do not keep me, I keep my dogs and pay for their needs out of my earnings.
The money I get from the odd sale of a pup, goes into paying a very small portion of their keep and Vet bills. The rest comes from me.
I would never expect my dogs to pay for themselves nor do I expect them to pay my way in this world. As an adult, that is my responsibility not theirs.