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jencar98 08-25-2006 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DazzlinYT
Okay (it makes me sad my fellow yorkie lovers are such skeptics). BLESS LAURIE FOR WHAT SHE IS DOING!

Becki, I am sorry you are sad because people can be so skeptical. Surely though you understand with a different scam going on everyday how susceptible we can all be. The loving nature of most yorkie owners would be easily taken advantage of with news of neglected yorkies or other dogs.

These are some of the most caring, giving, generous individuals on this forum and no doubt would do what is necessary to help these dogs. It is just a sign of the times that we have to verify everything. I'll be happy to donate to the vet for their care. I'll be in contact with them.

Thank you and Laurie for what you are doing. Bless you both!

Pattie 08-25-2006 05:44 PM

If this recue is legit, how come it is not listed anywhere in PetFinder or Tenn.? There are only 2 recues in that area. One is Prevent a Litter Connection & the 2nd is Monroe County Animal Shelter, both organizations can help these puppies. They are liasted as recue organizations with a correct street address not a post office box.

peanut 08-25-2006 05:59 PM

Here is the petfinder link http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/...?petid=6865654

Pattie 08-25-2006 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by peanut


OK I went to that link, put in the city and TN and they list the rescue organizations in that area, what I was saying is that theirs is not listed as a rescue organization, so out of the 2 that are, I would call the Monroe County ANimal Shelter and just ask them if in fact this is a true rescue organization. If they say yes, then it most likely is legit, if they say no, I would believe them as that city is small and afterall they are using a post office box when most recues use addresses right?

GREENLEESNANA 08-25-2006 07:23 PM

I seen this today when I was at work and couldn't reply...but it made my physically sick:mad:

shwbabygirl 08-25-2006 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DazzlinYT
You guys this is EASTERN TN...we are the redneck capital of the world, you go through any town around here, and you will find dogs chained in the front yard of people's houses (or trailers! lol) running wild, pregnant, starving, need I go on? THIS IS THE NORM for around here..sad and sick, but true! This is a rural area (Madison Co.) the police are likely not going to do anything, they are too busy busting Meth Labs (the newest pass time of the rednecks) and if people get the media involved, etc. Then the woman who is willing to surrender these dogs (yes even for a price) may tell them to $%#$ off, and then NOTHING will be done. If you want to help, then SIT TIGHT, send donations, be willing to foster or adopt a dog, but don't get involved and take matters into your own hands. Let the people who know what they are doing here do it, it is obviously a situation where they are having to tread lightly. These kind of people who own these yorkies likely don't realize they are doing anything wrong, or that their dogs NEED to be rescued. Still working on finding out about this rescue, and the validity of this case..will post info when I have it. Jeanie I am shocked at your opinion. Rescuers work their BUTTS off, there is no need to create a "scam" when there are PLENTY of dogs needing rescuing. I am SURE these folks who are taking care of this situation wish they had LESS important things to worry about.. now they are going to be flooded with basicly wild, sick dogs...and people are calling them scammers, that hurts my heart. FYI be careful what you wish for when you wish to see PETA involved! I witnessed PETA "freeing the poor caged animals" at a HUGE dog show in down town memphis as a child, those dogs ran out into downtown memphis traffic and were KILLED...but to PETA it was a success mission, they were FREE! PETA is nothing but a radical group that causes entirely WAY more harm than good.


i also live in TN....and i will be sending money to help....this is sad that anyone would let thier dog get in this shape "redneck" or not....i also think it is sad that ppl from tn would be putting thier state and the ppl who live in it down....i live in eastern tn also and it is a beautiful place to live. i am very proud of the sate i live in...and its not everywhere you look you see rednecks and dogs being abused.....i also live in a "trailer" and my yorkie is takencare of as well if not better than anyone on here...he is my baby and trust me he does not want for anything he eats the best has the best OF EVERYTHING....yes We live in a trailer but that does not make us bad pet owners or rednecks or poor ppl......that comment just cut to the bone to be honest with you i see no reason to put TN ppl down for where they live.....now if i have offended anyone let me know and i will not be back that is ok with me i just felt the need to let everyone here know that just because i live in a trailer and in tn that i am not a redneck poor or bad person or bad pet owner......now back to the subject i am very sorry these dogs are in the shape they are in and like i said b4 i will be sending money to help with the rescue ..... it is sad this happens to animlas no matter that state you live in.

peanut 08-26-2006 05:54 AM

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peanut 08-26-2006 06:03 AM

I agree with you , I love living here in Tennessee and I don't live in a Trailer, which means nothing, but I take very good care of my animals, they are clean, well feed, and have a very clean enviroment...but some people all over the states are just as bad as in Tennessee..Its sad and something needs to be done...I have already sent a donation, and will help more if needed...I am sorry that you got your feelings hurt, it got me too but the main purpose of YT is to help each other and yorkies, These poor yorkies really need help, so please don't let one or two comments make you leave....:)

BoozhersMama 08-26-2006 06:12 AM

Well here's the latest update
 
I spoke to a police officer yesterday and he pretty much told me what the lady at the precious paws rescue said. He said there's nothing they can do about it and reminded me that it was only recently that this county got a shelter. Well, I pretty much lost it. He said he understood and had pets himself and that I could talk to the MAYOR. This is exactly what the rescue lady told me would happen.
So I went to the animal shelter and they are going to call me back today. The people I talked to are getting me in contact with someone named Valerie there and acted like they couldn't even talk about it or had no idea how to help me.
I haven't heard back from any of the news stations yet.

jencar98 08-26-2006 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by shwbabygirl
i also live in TN....and i will be sending money to help....this is sad that anyone would let thier dog get in this shape "redneck" or not....i also think it is sad that ppl from tn would be putting thier state and the ppl who live in it down....i live in eastern tn also and it is a beautiful place to live. i am very proud of the sate i live in...and its not everywhere you look you see rednecks and dogs being abused.....i also live in a "trailer" and my yorkie is takencare of as well if not better than anyone on here...he is my baby and trust me he does not want for anything he eats the best has the best OF EVERYTHING....yes We live in a trailer but that does not make us bad pet owners or rednecks or poor ppl......that comment just cut to the bone to be honest with you i see no reason to put TN ppl down for where they live.....now if i have offended anyone let me know and i will not be back that is ok with me i just felt the need to let everyone here know that just because i live in a trailer and in tn that i am not a redneck poor or bad person or bad pet owner......now back to the subject i am very sorry these dogs are in the shape they are in and like i said b4 i will be sending money to help with the rescue ..... it is sad this happens to animlas no matter that state you live in.


I didn't address this earlier (I understand your offense) bc I was trying to stay on the issue of getting help for these dogs and skeptical donors.

I loved traveling in TN, especially the eastern area, just beautiful. IMO, it was no worse than any other area of the country in regards to the "rednecks". And, as far as what you live in, it is your home, be proud, you've no reason not to. Also, please don't allow the labels some people choose to use keep you from being here. We need you here!!!:)

red98vett 08-26-2006 06:37 AM

I agree with Jenn....I didn't take those comments as labeling - I saw them for what they were - a town with hardly any animal control/help plan - there are towns all over the country just like that. No reason to get offended - I'm sure the person who said that didn't mean it that way...and many of us probably didn't take it that way.

on the PETA comments - I know they're fanatics but that incident that was brought up must have happened a long time ago (you said you were a child when you witnessed it ?). I think they've come a long way since that kind of thing.

They are out there to help animals and if it weren't for them - we would never have the awareness we have now. I don't agree with all their methods - but they sure do get our attention and that's half the battle right there.

BoozhersMama 08-26-2006 07:02 AM

I just spoke to the Monroe County animal shelter
 
The ladies name is Vickie at Monroe County animal shelter. They said they know precious paws to be a legit rescue service and confirmed what the officer told me: There is no laws in place to protect animals in this county and no one to enforce the laws.

Pattie 08-26-2006 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shwbabygirl
i also live in TN....and i will be sending money to help....this is sad that anyone would let thier dog get in this shape "redneck" or not....i also think it is sad that ppl from tn would be putting thier state and the ppl who live in it down....i live in eastern tn also and it is a beautiful place to live. i am very proud of the sate i live in...and its not everywhere you look you see rednecks and dogs being abused.....i also live in a "trailer" and my yorkie is takencare of as well if not better than anyone on here...he is my baby and trust me he does not want for anything he eats the best has the best OF EVERYTHING....yes We live in a trailer but that does not make us bad pet owners or rednecks or poor ppl......that comment just cut to the bone to be honest with you i see no reason to put TN ppl down for where they live.....now if i have offended anyone let me know and i will not be back that is ok with me i just felt the need to let everyone here know that just because i live in a trailer and in tn that i am not a redneck poor or bad person or bad pet owner......now back to the subject i am very sorry these dogs are in the shape they are in and like i said b4 i will be sending money to help with the rescue ..... it is sad this happens to animlas no matter that state you live in.


Surely I am not offended but since you do live in Tenn, perhaps you can shed some light on this subject. Will the authorities in Tenn do anything to dog owners that leave their pups to get in this condition. I think a lot of us far away can't see this happening, our animal shelter would have those people in jail, fined or both and they would not allow them to ever own an animal again. I plan on calling the Monroe Animal SHelter tomorrow but if you know the truth on this matter, we would be interested in hearing it from you. We don't care if they are poor or anything, just to make it that they can not breed again, once these dogs are taken from them because of how they neglected them. thanksPS we have no doubt you take care of your baby and we don't want you to leave.

Baby Blessing 08-26-2006 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BoozhersMama
The ladies name is Vickie at Monroe County animal shelter. They said they know precious paws to be a legit rescue service and confirmed what the officer told me: There is no laws in place to protect animals in this county and no one to enforce the laws.

WHY NOT?

Pattie 08-26-2006 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Blessing
WHY NOT?


GREAT QUESTION!

BoozhersMama 08-26-2006 02:02 PM

I have no idea why not. But if I were to speculate I'd say that it's because we are so tiny and rural. We have a walmart and couple of fast food places and that's about it. We have no movie theater, no mall nothing. The closest big town is an hour away. It's mostly a farming community.
I encourage each of you that may be skeptical to call the Monroe County animal shelter at 423-442-1015. Ask for Vickie. She's the one in charge of working with the rescue groups but anyone that answers can probably tell you that there's no laws in place here to protect animals.
You guys from Michigan should know how rural most of these places are since half the state of Michigan is in Tennessee in the summer time.

Pattie 08-26-2006 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BoozhersMama
I have no idea why not. But if I were to speculate I'd say that it's because we are so tiny and rural. We have a walmart and couple of fast food places and that's about it. We have no movie theater, no mall nothing. The closest big town is an hour away. It's mostly a farming community.
I encourage each of you that may be skeptical to call the Monroe County animal shelter at 423-442-1015. Ask for Vickie. She's the one in charge of working with the rescue groups but anyone that answers can probably tell you that there's no laws in place here to protect animals.
You guys from Michigan should know how rural most of these places are since half the state of Michigan is in Tennessee in the summer time.


Wel, I'm not so sure that near half the State of Michigan is there over the summer, 90% of the people I know go up North, and as for me, I go to New York, which leaves 9% that might go to Tenn. maybe? but that has nothing to do with the puppies, and from what you are saying, we give $$, they resuce the pups, then the mom goes in heat again say in 3 more months or less (that would be 6 months minus the pregancy time and the 6 weeks or so since the pups were born, then she has another litter, then we donate again, then she has more, then we donate again. There HAS to be another avenue. Going in circles is not going to stop this person who doesn't seem to care about anything living. Someone has the answer, if not the Monroe Animal Shelter, then higher up. It is time this type of thing gets someone's attention. Our government has laws, they protect everyone, including those living in rural areas I would think.

BoozhersMama 08-26-2006 02:33 PM

Yeah I hear what your saying. When will it end. Do we just keep rescuing while this worthless piece of crap breeder keeps making money hand over fist? I don't know. All I know is that I couldn't go to sleep tonight with the images of those mange dogs in my head knowing that I didn't do anything to try and save them.
I don't plan on stopping with just a donation. I'm going to contact the mayors office and start a petition to get some kind of law in place to put puppy mill breeders in jail. There are many that have contacted me that live close by that are willing to help as well.
Just make sure you call the shelter for yourself. Maybe they can explain it a little better than I can. 423-442-1015

Pattie 08-26-2006 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DazzlinYT
Okay I have been in contact with Laurie, the director of the rescue. You guys, this is legitimate..she is not out to scam anyone. There will be the first 3 dogs (of several!) taken out this TUESDAY..straight to the vet. IF YOU CARE TO MAKE A DONATION (this is going to be an extremely expensive rescue as the dogs are in terrible condition), you may donate straight to the vet under the name of the rescue..and it will be used ONLY TO VET THESE DOGS. I have the name and number of the vet if anyone is sincere about wanting to make a donation, you may contact me, and I will give you the info on where you can send money. Laurie will keep the site updated with a photo diary and text on every step of this rescue...so you can rest assured she isn't a SCAMMER. (it makes me sad my fellow yorkie lovers are such skeptics). I will be out of town from tomorrow morning early til late Sunday evening for a show, but will give the phone number/etc. info for the vet to anyone who inquires SERIOUSLY when I return. I have offered my help with temporary fostering and transporting if needed. BLESS LAURIE FOR WHAT SHE IS DOING!


OK so in your opinion they are legit, I just want to say, I sold a saxaphone on "Craigs List.com" to a Doctor Kelly Anderson, whom was such a lovely lady in my opinion. Her son wanted a sax so much, she lived in Oklahoma I think. Anyway within a couple of days she sent me a prepaid shipping label to mail her the sax, TO NIGERIA! in tiny letters on the shipping label, which both myself & fed-ex missed, it had the Nigerian address and also stated "bill shipper" and that would be me, out a sax, out $690 in shipping charges and here's the bets, the United States Postal Money Order (one of the safest money orders in the United States) was stolen! I really liked Doctor Kelly Anderson and thought she was such a nice lady to get her son involved in music, Did she have a son? Who knows but she almost had a saxaphone!!!! FREE

Pattie 08-26-2006 02:48 PM

I should turn off my computer now
 
Ok still thinking :questione

Is Tenn. the only state that can not help animals in need?

BoozhersMama: Was this the first thread you made bringing our attention to these puppies? If so did you join to make this thread? Do you know the people personally that are "recuing" these puppies?

Just curious, and any donater has the right to be curious where their money is going to right? Thanks in advance

BoozhersMama 08-26-2006 04:06 PM

Okay, first let me say that it was only my opinion that the rescue place was legit only AFTER I called the Monroe county animal shelter and ASKED them if it was and they said yes. Please call them yourself at [B]423-442-1015[B] and ask them what kind of laws are in place in this county to protect animals. PLEASE CALL AND ASK YOURSELF.

I joined this forum in early August because I have a 6 year old Yorkie that I love and I thought this was a place that I could share my love for him and learn more about how to better take care of his health. I happened upon this forum by accident because I was looking for a birthday cake to make for Bentley's birthday which was August 13th. When I did a google search this site came up. That's how I found YT.
I do not know a single person at the precious paws rescue. The only reason I found out about it was I was looking on petfinder.com for a yorkie to rescue and there they were, the mange poor little babies. I thought that you guys would be outraged and might want to help so I posted the link on this site.

I'll tell you anything you want to know about me. I have nothing to hide. My name is Tonya Hansen I'm 36, I'm a scout master, I have been married for 11 years and have one son. I volunteer at my sons elementary one day a week and I'm a stay at home mom. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints and I'm 1st councelor in the primary presidency.
I live in Vonore Tennessee in Monroe County. My phone number is 423-884-3958. You may call me any time. My husbands name is Brett.
I have no alterior motives by being a member of this site. I just love yorkies. I was just trying to do the right thing by posting the petfinder link about the mangy dogs.

Pattie 08-26-2006 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BoozhersMama
Okay, first let me say that it was only my opinion that the rescue place was legit only AFTER I called the Monroe county animal shelter and ASKED them if it was and they said yes. Please call them yourself at [B]423-442-1015[B] and ask them what kind of laws are in place in this county to protect animals. PLEASE CALL AND ASK YOURSELF.

I joined this forum in early August because I have a 6 year old Yorkie that I love and I thought this was a place that I could share my love for him and learn more about how to better take care of his health. I happened upon this forum by accident because I was looking for a birthday cake to make for Bentley's birthday which was August 13th. When I did a google search this site came up. That's how I found YT.
I do not know a single person at the precious paws rescue. The only reason I found out about it was I was looking on petfinder.com for a yorkie to rescue and there they were, the mange poor little babies. I thought that you guys would be outraged and might want to help so I posted the link on this site.

I'll tell you anything you want to know about me. I have nothing to hide. My name is Tonya Hansen I'm 36, I'm a scout master, I have been married for 11 years and have one son. I volunteer at my sons elementary one day a week and I'm a stay at home mom. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints and I'm 1st councelor in the primary presidency.
I live in Vonore Tennessee in Monroe County. My phone number is 423-884-3958. You may call me any time. My husbands name is Brett.
I have no alterior motives by being a member of this site. I just love yorkies. I was just trying to do the right thing by posting the petfinder link about the mangy dogs.


I'm sure this anger is directed at me and I am sorry I angered you. Please don't hold it against any other YTers. and Thank you for answering my Q's. If you read my post previous to the one you replied to, I was scammed badly by Doctor Kelly Anderson and I liked her so much. I was also born & raised in New York so scams are soemthing I saw a lot of and yet I still let myself be had by Doctor Kelly. I will also tell you soemthing about me. I saw an ad for TV repair service and even tho my Dad was a TV repairman I thought it would be easier to fix it here in Michigan (where I live now after rasing 2 daughters & 1 son) instead of packing it up and bringing it home to Dad. I HELPED carry my TV set into the repairman's car, and never saw it again! So you don't need to be angered because people at YT are afraid of scams, I feel for my share, I am sure I am not the only one and even tho I also worked at my children's school, it doesn't mean I can't fall for a scam OR believe anything I hear. But thank you for answering the original question

BoozhersMama 08-26-2006 04:33 PM

I'm not at all angry. I'm just saying for all of you that's skeptical, it would be much easier to just call the shelter and ask them yourself. I don't know if people are in there taking calls on sunday but I'm sure someone will be there first thing monday morning est. And ask for Vickie who is in charge of the shelter and works with the various rescue groups.
This world is full of crooks. You can never be too careful about who your dealing with. Why, I get an e-mail every other day from paypal wanting me to "update" my account and I don't even HAVE a paypal account.
So I understand being cautious but I guess it's a little hard to understand that so many of you can't believe that we don't have any laws to protect animals here. There simply are none. I don't know why. I hope to change it.

Baby Blessing 08-26-2006 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BoozhersMama
Okay, first let me say that it was only my opinion that the rescue place was legit only AFTER I called the Monroe county animal shelter and ASKED them if it was and they said yes. Please call them yourself at [B]423-442-1015[B] and ask them what kind of laws are in place in this county to protect animals. PLEASE CALL AND ASK YOURSELF.

I joined this forum in early August because I have a 6 year old Yorkie that I love and I thought this was a place that I could share my love for him and learn more about how to better take care of his health. I happened upon this forum by accident because I was looking for a birthday cake to make for Bentley's birthday which was August 13th. When I did a google search this site came up. That's how I found YT.
I do not know a single person at the precious paws rescue. The only reason I found out about it was I was looking on petfinder.com for a yorkie to rescue and there they were, the mange poor little babies. I thought that you guys would be outraged and might want to help so I posted the link on this site.

I'll tell you anything you want to know about me. I have nothing to hide. My name is Tonya Hansen I'm 36, I'm a scout master, I have been married for 11 years and have one son. I volunteer at my sons elementary one day a week and I'm a stay at home mom. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints and I'm 1st councelor in the primary presidency.
I live in Vonore Tennessee in Monroe County. My phone number is 423-884-3958. You may call me any time. My husbands name is Brett.
I have no alterior motives by being a member of this site. I just love yorkies. I was just trying to do the right thing by posting the petfinder link about the mangy dogs.

Hi Tonya, I think you might be able to help from this day forward by working towards and seeking others to get laws passed through out your state to see that all animals are treated humanely by their owners and work towards getting
ANIMAL CONTROL IN CONTROL
apparently those in the animal control aren't all that concerned are they would be fighting mad to get laws passed through out your state. It is totally disgraceful that there is such as this going on there. It doesn't matter how small a community is or how large animal control's purpose is for the the well being of all animals.
I think that it is good you are trying to help them, but help should have started long, long time ago by getting laws to protect them, Pets have rights and the very first one is to be treated humanely, what about the Vets in your area aren't they out there fighting mad. I urge you and others there to start emailing your government officials and let them know something needs to be done. Get petitions started. Don't you all have a health department, has anyone thought to contact the health department on this? I don't live in your State, but I am going to email your government officials to let them know they ought to be ashamed, maybe some of them should forfit their high paying political position and go get a job as dog catchers and part of there job be in rescuing these poor ones abused.
Here is a site for those interested in emailing State officials in Tennessee, it has there email address's and phone numbers. As soon as I finish posting this I am going directly to email those I found here and I encourage others to do so too.
http://www.tennesseeanytime.org/government/elected.html

Pattie 08-26-2006 08:57 PM

Thanks BabyBlessing, I am heading there now....

Pattie 08-26-2006 09:05 PM

Did you guys know the puppies are no longer listed there? Hmmmm

Amber_lv 08-26-2006 09:14 PM

hey pattie what was their other site we looked at last night? I'm curious to see if thats still there.

Amber_lv 08-26-2006 09:30 PM

Pattie i just pm'd you

Pattie 08-26-2006 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Amber_lv
hey pattie what was their other site we looked at last night? I'm curious to see if thats still there.


The link to their other site is on page #1 of this thread. or did you mean the link to Precious Paws Peke & Tsu Asian Dog Rescue?

BoozhersMama 08-28-2006 08:48 PM

here are new pics of the rescued babies from Precious Paws
 
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I just received an e-mail from the asian animal rescue group with these pictures of them. Thank God she was able to get to them in time. I hope to adopt one.


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