I know it is horrible to be so suspicious, but I too am skeptical.

How can they not get animal control to help. They could alert the media. They could get PETA involved. I personally think it is a scam.

I dont even believe there are any dogs, they probably stole those picture from another website.

Some one should forward that page to the local sheriff and let them check it out.

Yes, how is giving them the money ahead of time going to help them get the dogs. Do they plan to buy them?

I SUGGEST CALLING THE NEWS MEDIA, THE TV STATION OR NEWSPAPER.

YES, that is the way to go. The media would put pressure on the breeder, and on the animal control. And they could also get donations.

From what I understand the animal shelter would be more than willing to turn them over to the rescue group.

The news media is the best source in getting on this and they will be there in a jiffy, believe me something will be done quickly.
((((((((((VI)))))))))))) that poor dog next to you, I do hope that it got ok, and that it got a loving home. What did they do to the owner???? Hopefully it wasn't just ignored, the owners should be prosecuted for animal cruelity. I also read a post where a dog can't be removed because of filthy conditions and I don't go along with that, I believe any pet that is left in filthy living conditions is ABSOLUTELY CRUEL and it is irresponsable on the animal control or officials to allow it to stay, this is my opinion on that, and I stand firm on my feelings there. I think there is toooo much time spent in our area of coming up with law after law and then not enforcing the ones that are already there to protect animals. Out here in Calif. in the area we are, the new laws, I think it is just a way of getting more money so that the elected officials can give themselves more salary raises and more raises. Sorry but that is exactly how I feel. Patti

personally i think that it is a scam bc ther has to be a law protecting animals...i never heard of such a thing where animals are not protected by any law especially the extent of the abuse and neglect these animals are going through..personally i would call the cops and the aspca and jsut try send them the pics right away every second counts now

This is more than just filthy conditions, these animals have mange, they are not well. I just don't believe that the authorities would not help.

Around here they show up with the media and the police and animal control and even HazMat. Usually the smell alone is enough to get the authorities involved, they don't even need pictures.

Did they say how they managed to get in to take the pictures. Those pictures don't look like they were taken through the windows as she claimed they were.

I totaly agree with you. Actually I think Houston will cite people who let animals live in filthly conditions and they follow up on it ...if the owner doesn't rectify the problem next visit - he stands to be fined and taken to court & possibly lose his animals - whatever kind they are.

In the case of the White dog - they estimated him at about a year old and SAID he was adopted out after being treated. I WANT to believe they didn't put him down and spoke to the Animal Control officer Ernie quite a few times about this dog - he promised me he did get adopted - He even wrote me a letter a few months later with Autographed pictures of himself LOL and said he went to a nice home.

With the White Dog - The owners were NOT fined because they surrendered the animal.

wow - didn't mean to write a book ! :eek:

DITTO: and I've never ever heard of any place that doesn't help dogs in this stage. Surely the police can step in. Am I so naive? Not only does someone need to find out if the donations really go to help them BUT how do we know they aren't going to withhold some Yorkie and start breading all over again. More importantly something has to be able to close this down. After the past week with the Chancie situation, I feel sick to my stomach seeing this. How terrible. This organization says the owners will only let them in, well if it is legit, they won't after reading what they wrote but my gut tells me even if we all sent donations, it would be never ending until these people are stopped. Now I have to go look up manged. I am new as a doggie owner and I am so happy I can care for my Babies properly. Yuk, God help these owners

I agree with V, why do they have to have money 1st to rescue these poor babies! something needs to be done about this!!! How sad, my heart goes out to these poor babies! how aweful and heartbreaking!

Becki....
 

Let me know if I can help with anything......you know me......I can be there pretty quick......hubby calls me Michael Andretti......

I live in TN too, & I can't believe that there isn't anything to be done...I know the guy that does news on a local channel here in Knoxville, its like a scammer, or health dept. report, anyway he reports on bad things, I am going to call him tomorrow and ask him to check it out...this has to be stop if it is true....

I'm a Cub Scout Master and I took my scouts to a radio station last week where I met a really nice lady with the Monroe County Animal Shelter doing a promo for a fund raiser. She gave me her card because I said I'd be interested in volunteering on saturdays at the shelter. I'm going to talk to her about it tomorrow and see if she knows anything about this place.

The woman that the rescue place is going to buy the yorkies monday because she's scared that they are going to die. This is a very small rural community here and I really don't believe there's much that would be done to rescue these dogs. We only recently got an animal shelter.

She says that yes, the woman will probably take the money and breed again. But for right now all she cares about is getting those babies out of that house and to the vet on tuesday. I really honestly don't think it's a scam.

:mad: Please someone call the news station, here in New Hampsire we just had a case of animal cruelty. One case was puppies/dogs who were kept in cages and covered in their own feces. The other case was last night, 4 horses all skin and bones were removed. In both cases the Media was involved, and yes donations were asked for, but only once the animals were removed. I will do whatever it takes to help.:mad:

:bravo: :bravo: :bravo: good going

I just spoke to a Michigan State Trooper and he said in Michigan, when something like this is reported, the animals are taken, with or without owners permission and the owners are prosecuted. Most times they do not serve jail time, although the arresting officers would like to see that but he states they usually get off after court with a hefty fine but are not allowed to own another animal anytime in the near future.

going to do some foot work today
 

I'm leaving in a few minutes to talk to the lady at the shelter and the police. I e-mailed the 3 stations here about it last night.
DazzleYT lives in this area and is going to try to find out more info on this rescue group too.
As soon as I find out something I'll let you guys know.

You go girl !!! GOOD LUCK and way to go. Those poor puppies need someone to speak for them and be outraged - and while the rescue seems to be trying I think you may get some action from someone by stepping up. Good for you !

i did send a email to that rescue group telling them they need to call the local authorties asap even the police and the reply i got was they will not take the dogs or do anything they would just get a warning then that lady won't want to work with them. something to that effect...so are they intending on buying those dogs from someone who let them get into that bad of shape? i seriously don't think anyone should profit from abusing animals in any way espically someone who would sit around and basically watch their yorkies rott!!

Oh, what a relief. I hope you gain some ground today. Please keep us updated. You have such a kind heart to stand up for these poor little babies. :( Like I said earlier, I'm not too far away, so let me know if there is anything at all I can do to help!

i found he email reply here it is!

what i wrote..."you need to report that "breeder" now with the mangy yorkies to the local
authorities be it the police or aspca or anything at all!"
rescue reply
"they won't do anything, I've tried.?and if we continue to alienate this horrible person, then we won't be able to save these dogs?or all the rest they have. It just isn't that simple as calling the police. In this area they do not enforce any animal cruelty laws. The most they would do is write a citation but would NOT take the dogs. Then she wouldn't give them to me to save. "

OMG Vee, that poor baby. He looks like he was truly suffering. :( Thank god you were there to resuce him!!

I really hope you all can find out what is going on. i hope that if the story is true that they can be helped good for all of you stepping in to help out. We are no longer a chat Forum anymore we are a force to be reckoned with we are now doers not talkers lol. also THANK YOU to all that are taking the time to go help this is just one of the many stories about rescuing and hands on right now and please all of you don't forget about Chancie the shelter dog he still needs a home but i am so proud to be a part of YT !!!!!!!!!

devoted to Lucy!
 

Thank God! Please let us know what you find out. This situation makes me sick. Those poor animals! It just breaks my heart.

Wait
 

You guys this is EASTERN TN...we are the redneck capital of the world, you go through any town around here, and you will find dogs chained in the front yard of people's houses (or trailers! lol) running wild, pregnant, starving, need I go on? THIS IS THE NORM for around here..sad and sick, but true! This is a rural area (Madison Co.) the police are likely not going to do anything, they are too busy busting Meth Labs (the newest pass time of the rednecks) and if people get the media involved, etc. Then the woman who is willing to surrender these dogs (yes even for a price) may tell them to $%#$ off, and then NOTHING will be done. If you want to help, then SIT TIGHT, send donations, be willing to foster or adopt a dog, but don't get involved and take matters into your own hands. Let the people who know what they are doing here do it, it is obviously a situation where they are having to tread lightly. These kind of people who own these yorkies likely don't realize they are doing anything wrong, or that their dogs NEED to be rescued. Still working on finding out about this rescue, and the validity of this case..will post info when I have it. Jeanie I am shocked at your opinion. Rescuers work their BUTTS off, there is no need to create a "scam" when there are PLENTY of dogs needing rescuing. I am SURE these folks who are taking care of this situation wish they had LESS important things to worry about.. now they are going to be flooded with basicly wild, sick dogs...and people are calling them scammers, that hurts my heart. FYI be careful what you wish for when you wish to see PETA involved! I witnessed PETA "freeing the poor caged animals" at a HUGE dog show in down town memphis as a child, those dogs ran out into downtown memphis traffic and were KILLED...but to PETA it was a success mission, they were FREE! PETA is nothing but a radical group that causes entirely WAY more harm than good.

Oh my goodness how sad to read all this. I find this whole thing very shameful that something like this is happening here in the United States, if those in your State,that are responsable for the well being of animals were doing their job all this would not be happening. What is wrong with those people that are elected into office there in your State, is it that they don't care? About time people running for polital office and then winning do there homework and clean up things like this, quit giving them raises and cut their own salaries and hire more people to work for the animal control and shelter to put a stop to such as this, and yes hire more man power for the police too, which is so needed in so many places. This is just my opinion.
Best of luck to those there trying to help get this resolved for those poor ones being neglected. I hope this situation is resolved soon and that they get the help needed.

Okay I have been in contact with Laurie, the director of the rescue. You guys, this is legitimate..she is not out to scam anyone. There will be the first 3 dogs (of several!) taken out this TUESDAY..straight to the vet. IF YOU CARE TO MAKE A DONATION (this is going to be an extremely expensive rescue as the dogs are in terrible condition), you may donate straight to the vet under the name of the rescue..and it will be used ONLY TO VET THESE DOGS. I have the name and number of the vet if anyone is sincere about wanting to make a donation, you may contact me, and I will give you the info on where you can send money. Laurie will keep the site updated with a photo diary and text on every step of this rescue...so you can rest assured she isn't a SCAMMER. (it makes me sad my fellow yorkie lovers are such skeptics). I will be out of town from tomorrow morning early til late Sunday evening for a show, but will give the phone number/etc. info for the vet to anyone who inquires SERIOUSLY when I return. I have offered my help with temporary fostering and transporting if needed. BLESS LAURIE FOR WHAT SHE IS DOING!

It may be easier to just post the info right here. I am interested in donating if it is legit.
Thanks Pattie
PS... What is the name of the Rescue that Laurie works for?

This was on the rescue site today...UPDATE # 2 AUGUST 25:Many people have asked about getting the authorities involved and getting the breeder shut down instead. Quite simply that is not an option. We were told that as long as they have shelter, food and water they can't do anything. Unfortunately this is happening at puppymills and breeding facilities around the country en mass. There are no laws or enforcement. The varying counties in the individual states control the enforcement and individual laws. In the rural south where there isn't even animal control, there simply is no enforcement of animal cruelty laws. There are other dogs in other locations this "family of breeders" has. I have been told they will release them as well. I simply cannot put their lives in danger by alerting the authorities who will do nothing more than alert her to the fact she was turned in. Then I will lose the trust she has in me and the dogs will suffer. Do we need better laws? Should they be enforced? Should she rot in jail forever? Should she never be allowed to breed or own a dog again? In my opinion yes to all. But I can't singlehandedly make that happen. That needs to be done by lawmakers and be supported by the AKC and the public. All I can do is save these dogs I have seen personally. Their eyes begged for my help. And I simply will not jeopardize them. I will not turn my back on them. They are getting out. I will make certain of it. We do need your donations for their vet care. You may donate directly to our vet. We also wil post a photo diary of every step of their recovery on our "main website" on our "How you can help" page. We can only save lives one at a time until the public, the lawmakers and the various animal registries change things. And for everyone who still chooses to buy from a breeder or puppymill, think twice. I wonder how many families got their cute little puppy from this breeder? READ THE ENTIRE STORY BELOW. Our rescue needs your help. We have been contacted by another breeder about many Yorkies needing our help. We were able to infiltrate this breeder's deplorable facility and have seen the conditions first hand. She happens to be a relative of the Maltese breeder we are rescuing dogs from. They all have mange, some severe. They are suffering. We have tried to figure out our options to help these babies. The choices are limited. The county offers no animal control, no laws, no help. They say they can do nothing. If we make it public then our ability to help the other dogs in other family member's houses (who are also breeders) will be non-existent. We are in the position where we have only one option. GET THEM OUT. We were there today, Saturday, August 19. We could not get pictures. We are trying to get pictures when we go back tomorrow or as soon as we can. We simply need to get them out. We will need to board all of these babies at our vets while they receive veterinary care for their horrible mange and who knows what else. We are just going to try to get the dogs and worry about the rest after they are OUT but we definately need money for their ongoing care and treatment and boarding fees. WE ABSOLUTELY CANNOT DO THIS WITHOUT SUBSTANTIAL DONATIONS. Our funds are already depleted. All we want to do is alleviate their suffering and get them treated if it is humanely possible and eventually into loving homes. These babies do not deserve to suffer so terribly and then just die in a horribly cruel and inumane manner. Please help! We will update as soon as we have some more info. As soon as we can safely get pictures we will.

Donations may be sent to:

Precious Paws Peke and Tzu Asian Dog Rescue

P.O. Box 697

Madisonville, TN 37354
Or go to http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/...?petid=6865654