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JeanieK · 04-29-2006, 07:40 AM

Curious!!! what happened to the person that started this thread. Or am I not allowed to ask???

Lola LaRue · 04-29-2006, 07:44 AM

JeanieK, I just started a thread because I have noticed that some people have been banned in the past. Not unlike the person who started this thread.

JeanieK · 04-29-2006, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

I'm serious when I say this. YES They have souls. Sorry I can't quote the bible but I truly believe this.

It's some HUMANS that I worry about....many don't have souls. If they did ...they could never do the things they do to animals & other humans out of cruelty.....there are some EVIL people in this world. There are NO evil animals.

Villette,
I have a theory on this. Since God created us all, he had to have created evil people also. I believe that we live many lives. And that we learn different lessons each time we are here.

For people who are just down right evil and have no consicience, I believe it is their first time around, they have not yet learned compassion.

Then there are those people that are just so nice, they never say a bad word aobut any one, they always see the good, and they would never do anything to hurt anybody. those peole are very close to getting their wings.

I believe life is like going to school. We choose what we want to learn, and we are born into a setting that will teach us those lessons. And the lessons gradually get more and more difficult as we get closer and closer to graduating.

I also believe that being rich or gifted, is a much harder lesson than being poor. God gives people wealth and talent to see what they will do with it. He does not give it to them because he liked them better than he liked anyone else.

Just what I believe. I'm interested in hearing other views

Maybe I should start a new thread with this one.

red98vett · 04-29-2006, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK

Curious!!! what happened to the person that started this thread. Or am I not allowed to ask???

I can't answer this but I'll venture to say that was an internet troll and the only reason for them posting was to provoke responses....sometimes that's the way they work - starting out with small posts that lead up to more troll like posts - eventually plain annoying people on purpose.

This is only my GUESS.

and I STILL think Dogs DO go to Heaven. No one could convince me differently -

and JeanneK - COOL POST - that was interesting

YorkieRose · 04-29-2006, 08:24 AM

In the Christian, King James Bible the scriptures tell us there will be a new heaven and new earth...meaning, after the final judgement God will recreate the earth as He did in the beginning...and what did He make first in the Garden of Eden..THE ANIMALS..so He will replendish the earth and Heavens with all His beloved creatures..

I, for one do not believe God creates anything evil, God has no hand in the evils of the world...all of us come into the world innocent..we grow up and by human choice we decide who we will serve as Master. It is our free choice to be good or evil...as far as I know most all world religions like Christian, Jew, Muslin, Buddist agree man is evil by his own hand.

MAKCAI · 04-29-2006, 11:23 AM

I Know that they do....i just know...my animals look at me...and i just know they have...i cant expalin it....i have to say that their is no bad dog in this world...just bad owners...if a dog is not trained from day one, they dont know what is right and wrong....

And as for them going to heaven...i hope they do...does anybody know the song "Old Shep?" Well thats where i want to go.....and if it not there, i am not going!!!:-)

If Elvis said, then i have to believe it :-)

MAKCAI · 04-29-2006, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

In the Christian, King James Bible the scriptures tell us there will be a new heaven and new earth...meaning, after the final judgement God will recreate the earth as He did in the beginning...and what did He make first in the Garden of Eden..THE ANIMALS..so He will replendish the earth and Heavens with all His beloved creatures..

I, for one do not believe God creates anything evil, God has no hand in the evils of the world...all of us come into the world innocent..we grow up and by human choice we decide who we will serve as Master. It is our free choice to be good or evil...as far as I know most all world religions like Christian, Jew, Muslin, Buddist agree man is evil by his own hand.

I agree!!! Its our own choice!! Free will

Kizzys Mom · 04-29-2006, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

In the Christian, King James Bible the scriptures tell us there will be a new heaven and new earth...meaning, after the final judgement God will recreate the earth as He did in the beginning...and what did He make first in the Garden of Eden..THE ANIMALS..so He will replendish the earth and Heavens with all His beloved creatures..

I, for one do not believe God creates anything evil, God has no hand in the evils of the world...all of us come into the world innocent..we grow up and by human choice we decide who we will serve as Master. It is our free choice to be good or evil...as far as I know most all world religions like Christian, Jew, Muslin, Buddist agree man is evil by his own hand.

I agree with your post.

doggieluv2 · 04-29-2006, 06:13 PM

My 7 year old son came home from school one day (a christian school I might add) and he was upset because his teacher had told him that animals do not go to heaven. He was upset because our beloved Chow had died 2 years ago and he still gets sad about him being gone. I have always told him that Bear is in heaven and that has comforted him (and me). I was not real happy that the teacher had told him that. I told him that is her belief but that I believe Bear is in heaven. I told him how can she know that he isn't!

Duckman · 04-29-2006, 08:42 PM

Question: Do dogs have Souls?

Answer: Yes.

Olivier · 04-30-2006, 02:59 AM

I say Yes , they have a soul .

butterfly · 04-30-2006, 07:30 AM

The physics, John Edwards, Sylvia, etc. all say that yes our animals are in heaven with us. I know, when I lost my yorkie Ginger last summer I knew that she would be in the arms of our daughter we lost in 2003. Somehow, just thinking of them together with the shelties we lost along the line makes me feel somehow comforted. Sarah and Ginger were very close.

yorkieskater · 04-30-2006, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeanieK

Villette,
I have a theory on this. Since God created us all, he had to have created evil people also. I believe that we live many lives. And that we learn different lessons each time we are here.

For people who are just down right evil and have no consicience, I believe it is their first time around, they have not yet learned compassion.

Then there are those people that are just so nice, they never say a bad word aobut any one, they always see the good, and they would never do anything to hurt anybody. those peole are very close to getting their wings.

I believe life is like going to school. We choose what we want to learn, and we are born into a setting that will teach us those lessons. And the lessons gradually get more and more difficult as we get closer and closer to graduating.

I also believe that being rich or gifted, is a much harder lesson than being poor. God gives people wealth and talent to see what they will do with it. He does not give it to them because he liked them better than he liked anyone else.

Just what I believe. I'm interested in hearing other views

Maybe I should start a new thread with this one.

I never had any doubts that animals have souls...never...despite what some of my catholic relatives said. However, since learning animal communicating...I have had some animals tell me things that I can't deny. Not only do I believe in heaven...but I believe in reincarnation. We are meant to be with who we are with and I believe that includes animals too. I've talked with some professional animal communicators and one said "well, you can chose to believe what you want, but you can't deny what is being told to you." That includes animals in heaven and being reincarnated. My dog or dogs will always be with me. I am convinced of this. I can't fully explain it. I had my doubts before but enough was proven to me that I don't doubt it anymore.
suzie

BabyFidgette · 04-30-2006, 01:22 PM

He posted in another thread about the Simple Life. I wonder why he was banned.

I don't see anything offending.

PS. I'm soooo nosey!

AKA bizee body

bosslady · 05-01-2006, 08:34 AM

I don't know if I believe animals actually have souls. I believe God created animals and he loves them and they will definitely be in heaven. There are some passages in the Bible that talk about animals in heaven. For instance, the one about the lamb laying down with the lion. I also believe heaven will be the most wonderful place. More wonderful than we can even imagine and we will be happier than we have ever been. For many of us, our animals would need to be there for us to be that happy and to make heaven such a wonderful place. Animals are born innocent and they love unconditionally. God would not exclude them from heaven. They are his creatures.
However, we are given a soul so we may choose between believing in God and choosing him and eternal life in heaven or rejecting God. I don't believe animals have the capacity to choose God.

I also believe some people are very, very evil. However, I don't know if they are born evil as God gives us all the choice to be good or bad. Some people choose to be evil. They seem to enjoy it. The devil also has power here on earth and some people choose him as the ruler in their lives.

04-29-2006, 07:44 AM	#17
Lola LaRue Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Ramon, CA Posts: 710	JeanieK, I just started a thread because I have noticed that some people have been banned in the past. Not unlike the person who started this thread. __________________ Shannon, Lola Larue, Chewbacca Joseph(aka Chewy)

04-29-2006, 11:23 AM	#21
MAKCAI Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: FLINTSHIRE UK Posts: 175	I Know that they do....i just know...my animals look at me...and i just know they have...i cant expalin it....i have to say that their is no bad dog in this world...just bad owners...if a dog is not trained from day one, they dont know what is right and wrong.... And as for them going to heaven...i hope they do...does anybody know the song "Old Shep?" Well thats where i want to go.....and if it not there, i am not going!!!:-) If Elvis said, then i have to believe it :-) __________________

04-29-2006, 08:42 PM	#25
Duckman Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Jacksonville Florida Posts: 39	Question: Do dogs have Souls? Answer: Yes. __________________ Bob JaxAnimals.com

04-30-2006, 01:22 PM	#29
BabyFidgette Learn Yorkie CPR! Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 6,855	He posted in another thread about the Simple Life. I wonder why he was banned. I don't see anything offending. PS. I'm soooo nosey! AKA bizee body __________________ Nicole & Baby "The more men I meet, the more I love my Yorkie!"

04-29-2006, 07:40 AM	#16
JeanieK Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa Posts: 12,552	Curious!!! what happened to the person that started this thread. Or am I not allowed to ask???

04-29-2006, 08:24 AM	#20
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	In the Christian, King James Bible the scriptures tell us there will be a new heaven and new earth...meaning, after the final judgement God will recreate the earth as He did in the beginning...and what did He make first in the Garden of Eden..THE ANIMALS..so He will replendish the earth and Heavens with all His beloved creatures.. I, for one do not believe God creates anything evil, God has no hand in the evils of the world...all of us come into the world innocent..we grow up and by human choice we decide who we will serve as Master. It is our free choice to be good or evil...as far as I know most all world religions like Christian, Jew, Muslin, Buddist agree man is evil by his own hand.

04-29-2006, 06:13 PM	#24
doggieluv2 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 50	My 7 year old son came home from school one day (a christian school I might add) and he was upset because his teacher had told him that animals do not go to heaven. He was upset because our beloved Chow had died 2 years ago and he still gets sad about him being gone. I have always told him that Bear is in heaven and that has comforted him (and me). I was not real happy that the teacher had told him that. I told him that is her belief but that I believe Bear is in heaven. I told him how can she know that he isn't!

04-30-2006, 02:59 AM	#26
Olivier Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,999	I say Yes , they have a soul .

04-30-2006, 07:30 AM	#27
butterfly YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bella Vista Arkansas Posts: 482	The physics, John Edwards, Sylvia, etc. all say that yes our animals are in heaven with us. I know, when I lost my yorkie Ginger last summer I knew that she would be in the arms of our daughter we lost in 2003. Somehow, just thinking of them together with the shelties we lost along the line makes me feel somehow comforted. Sarah and Ginger were very close.

05-01-2006, 08:34 AM	#30
bosslady Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 223	I don't know if I believe animals actually have souls. I believe God created animals and he loves them and they will definitely be in heaven. There are some passages in the Bible that talk about animals in heaven. For instance, the one about the lamb laying down with the lion. I also believe heaven will be the most wonderful place. More wonderful than we can even imagine and we will be happier than we have ever been. For many of us, our animals would need to be there for us to be that happy and to make heaven such a wonderful place. Animals are born innocent and they love unconditionally. God would not exclude them from heaven. They are his creatures. However, we are given a soul so we may choose between believing in God and choosing him and eternal life in heaven or rejecting God. I don't believe animals have the capacity to choose God. I also believe some people are very, very evil. However, I don't know if they are born evil as God gives us all the choice to be good or bad. Some people choose to be evil. They seem to enjoy it. The devil also has power here on earth and some people choose him as the ruler in their lives.