Question Regarding the "Law" and Selling Your Pups

[BabyFidgette]

Just to start out, I want to say that this thread was not started to cause any controversy. I'm not saying I am in agreement or disagreement with what I am writing below. I was just wondering about the laws in different states, and if there actually are any laws regarding selling your pups.

Okay first some comments...I believe that when you go to a petstore, any idiot can purchase a pup. Now, I'm not saying that all petstores just sell their pups to make money (that's another topic), I'm saying that I don't think they can discriminate against who buys their pups. Just as when someone goes to rent or buy your house, you can't tell them no because you don't like them. You can't discriminate.

Now for the question: If you are selling your pups, is there any law in any state that says you can't discriminate against anyone who wants to purchase them? I was just wondering, because I didn't think that you could turn people down for wanting to purchase something.

Again...I am not saying that breeders should not want their pups to go to the best homes, I was just wondering if it really is legal to discriminate over who can buy your pups. Do you know what I mean? I was just curious.

Thanks in advance for your answers, comments, etc.

[snickers mom]

the way i would look at it (and i am not a breeder nor do i intend to be) is that its kind of like adopting a child...the prospective parents go thru a screening process...
not saying its right or wrong...just another way to look at it

[BabyFidgette]

Originally Posted by snickers mom

the way i would look at it (and i am not a breeder nor do i intend to be) is that its kind of like adopting a child...the prospective parents go thru a screening process...
not saying its right or wrong...just another way to look at it

I was thinking about adopting too...but many Yorkies are not adopted, they are purchased. You know?

[typerk]

If you are a private seller I don't see why you shouldn't be able to sell who you want to sell too. But if I went to pet store to buy a dog how would they possibly know how fit an owner I would be? I abhor any comparison with dogs and real children so I would never compare buying a dog to adopting a child but I'm quite sure adopting a child is much harder, as it should be.

[JeanieK]

You can turn people down as long as your decision is not based on gender, race, religion, age, ethnic group, etc.

You can turn them down for other reasons as long as you use the same set of criteria for everyone, such as fenced yard, no apartment dwellers, young children etc. But you must use the same set of criteria for everyone.

As a private citizen I believe you can sell or not sell to whomever you please. Commercial retailers don't have that privilege.

Also housing is a basic necessity, having a dog is not.

Isn't it sad that we have to start our posts with disclaimers, to keep from getting jumped on. I might just add a disclaimer to my signature. LOL

[snickers mom]

Originally Posted by typerk

If you are a private seller I don't see why you shouldn't be able to sell who you want to sell too. But if I went to pet store to buy a dog how would they possibly know how fit an owner I would be? I abhor any comparison with dogs and real children so I would never compare buying a dog to adopting a child but I'm quite sure adopting a child is much harder, as it should be.

well i wouldnt say children and puppies are the same either but its another way of looking at it... everyones perpespectives on things are always going to be different - i wouldnt look at it that way but was just offerring it up as a possible reason for the process...
alot people view thier pets... and this includes the awesome people here at YT - as thier children so for them it would be like making sure thier "child" goes to a good home...
again i dont look at it that way but i am also not a breeder just wanted to possibly give another view on this is all

[BabyFidgette]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

You can turn people down as long as your decision is not based on gender, race, religion, age, ethnic group, etc.

You can turn them down for other reasons as long as you use the same set of criteria for everyone, such as fenced yard, no apartment dwellers, young children etc. But you must use the same set of criteria for everyone.

As a private citizen I believe you can sell or not sell to whomever you please. Commercial retailers don't have that privilege.

Also housing is a basic necessity, having a dog is not.

Isn't it sad that we have to start our posts with disclaimers, to keep from getting jumped on. I might just add a disclaimer to my signature. LOL

1. Thanks for the info. about fenced yard, young children, etc. Now I understand better.

2. You are right about the disclaimer, it's a shame, but I don't want to get yelled it.

[BabyFidgette]

Originally Posted by snickers mom

well i wouldnt say children and puppies are the same either but its another way of looking at it... everyones perpespectives on things are always going to be different - i wouldnt look at it that way but was just offerring it up as a possible reason for the process...
alot people view thier pets... and this includes the awesome people here at YT - as thier children so for them it would be like making sure thier "child" goes to a good home...
again i dont look at it that way but i am also not a breeder just wanted to possibly give another view on this is all

I appreciate your response. I need all the comparisons I can get!!!

[snickers mom]

Originally Posted by snickers mom

well i wouldnt say children and puppies are the same either but its another way of looking at it... everyones perpespectives on things are always going to be different

lol yes i know i spelled "Perspective" wrong
see thats what i get for speed typing lol

[Latuya]

I totally understand what your saying. When searching for my yorkie, I found a breeder who had some really tiny beautiful ones. But after talking awhile she flat out told me that she thought I would be a good mommy to one of her pups but the fact that I have kids in the house she would not let me purchase one. I was so upset!

It took some time for me to realize that she was just looking out for the best interest of her pups and wanted them to go to the right homes. When you think about it,,, I think I would be the same way. Although I ended up with a tiny one and he's just as rough and tough as any other bigger dog, I have to realize he is tiny and he can get hurt alot easier than a larger one. It takes alot of care and love into breeding and they only have the pups best interest at heart. I am so lucky that someone seen that I would not only be a good mommy but trusted me enough to hand over such a precious life. And to tell you the truth, I am happy to know that someone would put so much effort into finding their pup the perfect home.

[Tashasmom]

My husband and I adopted our youngest child and I dont take offense so i doubt anyone else would either..you weren't saying it in a bad way so don't worry about the comparison..it's sad we have to watch EVERYTHING we say.
I do think some breeders are way too picky. They won't sell to people that have jobs kids other big pets ect. I think it should depend on each person and each family. I do see why they would hesitate to sell to someone that wants to breed. I wouldn't unless I either knew that person or for sure knew they weren't just going to stick the pup in a cage and make it make babies every 6 months. I would help a new breeder start out but i feel that they should do what I had to do before I started out and we all know what that entails..
I do think that there should be some stipulations and see nothing wrong with that. I also think that if a person doesn't like those stipulations there are alot of breeders out there and they can find one that fits them better. I also think that since we put so much time effort and money ect..into our breeding we should be allowed to be choosy. But then again I do think some are a little over board. It puts me in mind of a person just starting out a business..at first anyone that shops is worthy then all of a sudden HEY I'M BIG TIME..so skit you aren't good enough for my store..kinda snooty isn't it..

[y0rkieL0ver]

Okay first some comments...I believe that when you go to a petstore, any idiot can purchase a pup. Now, I'm not saying that all petstores just sell their pups to make money (that's another topic), I'm saying that I don't think they can discriminate against who buys their pups. Just as when someone goes to rent or buy your house, you can't tell them no because you don't like them. You can't discriminate.

I think breeders have every right to pick and choose the best person to take care of their puppies. I know sometimes they do not let them go out to those of us in our 20's , those with small children, those without a fenced in yard, but in all honesty i think they do have that right. Not to say they always choose the right people, because you cant be 100% right about people ALL the time, for the most part i think not only is it their right as a breeder, but their duty.

*disclaimer- i am not a breeder and dont ever plan on being one

[GeorgiesMomma]

Originally Posted by snickers mom

well i wouldnt say children and puppies are the same either but its another way of looking at it... everyones perpespectives on things are always going to be different - i wouldnt look at it that way but was just offerring it up as a possible reason for the process...
alot people view thier pets... and this includes the awesome people here at YT - as thier children so for them it would be like making sure thier "child" goes to a good home...
again i dont look at it that way but i am also not a breeder just wanted to possibly give another view on this is all

I agree with you and thought that your perspective was on the money. I am one of those people that looks at my dog like he is my child since I don't have any other children or animals, and it would sadden me to think that he could go to a home with less love than mine. I think the breeders have every right to screen the people they are interested in buying their puppies. Also, I know the adoption process for children if much more indepth, as it should be, but the adoption process of a dog should have strict guidelines as well.

Oh and I too am not a breeder just the owner of one special Yorkie Boy

[yorky4ME]

Well... as a small hobby breeder myself and a responsible one.... i do try to place my pups in forever homes from the beginning. The families that I choose most happen to be people who have researched it and know what it takes. Believe it or not, I've had a girl ..... who never had a dog before(mature young lady) think that it is like having a hamster..... where you just cage them and take them out when you want. I do try to eduacate everybody and allow them the understanding of what it really intails. Truth is..... it actually sounds like I try to talk people out of it. Which is not my intention. But everybody reading this post is a YORKIE LOVER..... we ALL are because we spend countless hours bragging about our babies and reading stories about other ones. Truth is...... a lot of people are not.... or they love the 'idea' of one and once the cuteness wears off and the novelty wears off..... the dog is often neglected and given away.....

When I sit down with them.....I can tell if this is an impulsive buyer or not. Bad example but.... it's like I love sushi.... I love to eat it.... I love everything about it. But if you ask me to research the process of what it takes to make sushi....if you hand me the book.... I'd never read it. I have no interest in that. Now.... In no way am I comparing sushi to yorkies....but my point is..... a lot of people like the 'idea' or look of it but don't understand the care and responsiblity. And probably won't research it.

But I do honestly get more qualified buyers than I have those....... and I have to even pass on ones who would be perfect for my babies. I just had it happen now. I had one little girl availble and 2 people I was talking to. Both were great candidates and I just had to weigh everything and go with one. I felt awful about the other family but I only had one girl.


I don't judge anybody when they call me..... it;'s not sex, religion, creed,color, race, financial status...... it's about being a RESPONSIBLE breeder. Because selling yorkies to me is not like selling a car or a house..... it's a living, breathing, feeling gift from GOD.

[StewiesMom]

Private sellers can turn people down for any reason they choose. It's perfectly legal.