YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community

YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community (https://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/index.php)
-   General Yorkshire Terrier Discussion (https://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/general-yorkshire-terrier-discussion/)
-   -   need HELP with our new yorkie (https://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/general-yorkshire-terrier-discussion/3542-need-help-our-new-yorkie.html)

PinkMartini 04-02-2005 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orinskye
i know pets arent disposable, i am just as much an animal rights person as any other dog lover BUT there are limits. a lot of you would disagree and thats fine, but i came into dog ownership telling muself that if it comes to an outrageous vet bill where there is no way i could work something out then i would have to put him down, im not saying just put him down because he gets "sick". . . (and what does IMO stand for, i have seen this on other posts too.....). . . furthermore, yes i do treat him like my child, but he isnt, he is a dog (a rather cute dog that is treated like a child and gets whatever he wants...... but a dog just the same), if a child got sick and had an outrageous hospital bill there are ways of paying it (like medicare and other government programs that help or pay it for you) there is no such thing vet bills.... i think to compare an animal to a child is a huge step (i do it with toby sometimes as well) but lets face it, it may seem sorta the same to people like us.... but a dog and a child are something TOTALLY different in the eyes of other people, and when this comparison is given you really have to take a step back and realize that a dog IS NOT a child even though it may feel like it to you. . . . does this mean you are unqualified to have a dog if you are not willing to spend $4000 on it to (not necessarily,) save it? No, it just means that you look at it from a realistic perspective and give yourself a "limit" to how far you will go.... if toby gets sick then i will do everything i can to make him get better, i wont just put him in a cornor to die or put him down, but if it is a losing battle that costs a whole bunch of money, then i would rather spare him the pain and myself the financial burden of having a HUGE vet bill, no way to pay it, and a dead dog anyways. . . call me selfish, that is fine, and this has been my opinion from day one, even my last dog (and i was devastated by her death)

I totally agree. My fiance feels the same way as you do (even said so with the same metaphors/words and it took me some time to come around, but I did. At first, I was in the same mind frame as everyone else here ("I will do anything & everything to save my pet, including selling my house, car, ect") but have since realized (and maybe matured?) that as much as I love my animals, I wouldn't lose my house/car/clothes on my back for them....

aimee 04-02-2005 03:01 PM

I agree with what you guys are saying. There is a limit for me. I'm not sure what that number is, but I would know it if I saw it.

What I was just trying to convey in my post was some of the points of pet ownership (sickness, vet bills, etc) that they may not be as prepared for as they'd like. I wasn't saying that only people with money should own a dog. Trust me, my husband is in the Air Force, and if you look at their pay charts, we don't make all that much money ;) But we do have savings for the dogs' health, as well as health insurance for us and the children.

Anyway, I hope I didn't offend anyone, I certainly didn't mean to.

_____________

I'm anxious to see what happened at the pet shop. Doesn't sound good.

whispersmom2 04-02-2005 06:45 PM

I have a friend who was given a pet store Yorkie pup. Within 24 hours she was coughing. A few days later, diagnosed with pneumonia. Guess what--the vet had treated 5 puppies in that week from same pet store with kennel cough. Three of those went into pneumonia. My friend contacted pet store and told them about her puppy's diagnosis and they should treat all puppies in contact with her. Well, not! Friend threatened to go public if bills not paid. Over $5000.00 later, puppy still not well. But, they kept that little one. Now, they have an 8 month old terror who is totally neurotic and has a lot of emotional problems. Bites, will not house break(common in pet store pups) has other med. problems now. Fights with other Yorkie constantly and on and on.
Should they have kept the puppy in the beginning. My OPINION is NO! Theirs is the same. Pet shops count on impulse buying and will offer to finance the new baby for up to 3 years.. There are so many more red flags and to top it off,, the paper work given could be for a puppy who died enroute and was thrown in a garbage can along the route. There is no way to tell the authenticity of the paper work..
In the end you have to do what you think is right but remember you are endorsing the worst of conditions that this puppy was bred and lived in..Your money supports them and their evil ways of treating companion animals.
If you are offended, then I owe you an apology but only for offending you. I do not apologize for getting on a tear about the origin of most pet store puppies. Check NO Puppy Mills and see what I am talking against..

MyTyYorkie 04-02-2005 07:06 PM

Has anyone heard anything on what the pet store said to them did he return the dog or did he keep it, or did he get some of his money back. can't wait to hear

SoCalyorkiLvr 04-02-2005 07:50 PM

I want to know to. We are "hooked" on this one!

Cheryl Field 04-02-2005 07:54 PM

So am I. I'm very anxious to hear the outcome. Don't leave us hanging....

Lyz517 04-02-2005 10:12 PM

Hi, I guess I'll say congrats on ur new baby and sorry that she is sick. I know by now you and your girlfriend have probably made a choice on keeping her or getting the other yorkie but I'll still post my opinion.
I honestly dont think most petstores care to give people a discount if they keep a sick pup of theirs. Especially if we were to go in there letting them know you found a yorkie that seems healthy and is less money. They know that if you are going back and questioning them for a discount it is likely cause you already feel attached to the new pup and unlikely to return. But who knows...maybe if they dont want to take a chance of having keep a sick pup around and resell MAYBE they'll reduce it. I know you mentioned a 5 year warranty. What exactly does this warranty cover?
If you decide or have already decided to buy a yorkie through a private breeder please be sure to get a written health guarantee. Without that you could do absolutely nothing if your new pup were to be sick or something more serious be wrong. Most states I believe have a puppy law to protect consumers(but I think its mostly if you buy from a petstore).
My yorkie was also sick when I first got him and now he is MUCH better. I did go back to where I bought him and got reimbursed for the cost of medication. Right now I'am happy to say that I dnt think hes sick anymore. He had a upper resp. infection and parasites which was causing the diarrhea. I know in my heart as much as I adored him that if I had found out he had something terribly wrong that would not go away even with meds I would have to return him. You know what, perhaps if people started to do exactly that....bring back these sick pups...maybe then these people would either lose money and shut down or be more careful to sell healthy pups. They keep doing it cause we keep keeping them.
I did not pay the amount of money you paid for yours. But I'm assuming maybe you paid so much also cause of the warranty.
Almost forgot to mention to be sure your careful when handling other pups that are not sick after handling yours. Infections and illness could be spread through your hands and clothing etc.
Either way I'll shut up now and just look forward to hearing what you decided and whatever decision you make I know will be the right one for you and your girlfriend.
Look forward to hearing from you...

Welcome to yorkietalk

Lyz517 04-02-2005 10:20 PM

Heres part of a article I found at petcraft.com searching for NJ puppy law. No one attack me pleease cause I didnt write it. Just thought it had some good info :)

When purchasing a puppy in the Garden State, the store is obliged by law to inform you of the State of New Jersey regulations covering dog sales. The law gives the pet buyer specific guarantees and legal remedies, if the puppy is ill - either afflicted with a genetic disorder or infected with a disease. If the puppy has health problems, the law requires that you be offered a refund or an exchange. The store quite possibly might offer other guarantees. Be sure to get them in writing. Find out what the laws of your state are before buying.

Immediately after you pay for your puppy, take your new friend to a local animal hospital for an examination. Bring the health documentation from the store with you. This will tell the veterinarian what shots are needed. Ignore it when the store tells you to save your money, since the pup was checked over by their vet. Their vet is quite possibly biased in favor of the store. Your local practitioner will be impartial and thus in a better position to give a true picture of the puppy's health.

If the veterinarian tells you to return the puppy, do it! Don't make the mistake of feeling sorry for the baby. It is the store's responsibility to nurse a sick puppy back to health, not yours.

If you want to get a puppy from a private breeder, all well and good. Check out the breeders knowledge of dogs and motivations. Many so-called private breeders, simply out to make a fast dollar, breed poor quality dogs. If you buy a sick dog from a private breeder, it may be more difficult to receive any compensation.

A dog can be one of the best friends you ever have. But, as in any relationship, you only take out what you are prepared to put in.

Gracie'sMommy 04-03-2005 06:34 AM

I'm sure I"m a little late for this one, but I'd have taken her back too. She was unwell. Period. You did not get what you paid for. (And what in the H3LL are two college students FINANCING a $2,500 dog for??????) (Sorry, the mom in me said that!)

Two days of bonding isn't a basis for spending that much money on a dog that you are going to incur further undeterminable expense on. And by the way, might I add that you didn't spend $2,500 on her if you financed her, you will end up spending more like $4,000 by the time she'd paid off! Geesh.

Give her a big squeeze, kiss her goodbye and get your money back.

And please, don't flame me with the "would you send your child back if she was sick?" Come on. This is a sick dog they've had for two days. Not somebody they carried for nine months and gave birth to!

PlatinumYorkies 04-03-2005 12:47 PM

No news Yet...Hey what gives....

Skippy's Mom 04-03-2005 01:22 PM

Hi---You sound just like us when we got Skippy last summer. The biting; everything will diminish as she gets older. We had the same problem. Also-Skippy had diarrhea and kennel cough too. Turns out he had Giardia, and the kennel cough. He also had a yeast infection in his ears. Gotta go right now-more later. Good Luck and hang in there--it's worth it!

Geanalyn 04-03-2005 01:27 PM

The Geanalyn Story .. Sorry for the delayed post
 
first off, i would like to apologize for leaving you all hanging here for a little bit. During the weekend, i barely have time to go online. But 9-5 M-F i am ALWAYS online at work. lol well here's the story ..

Saturday morning at 9am, I dropped my girlfriend at school and stopped by the pet shop to talk to the manager abut our sick yorkie and asked if it was possible to maybe give us a discount but she said NO right away. So I didn't have anything to hide and told her that we found a perfectly healthy yorkie for sale for $1000. She said that if I wanted to return the dog we can. So i left the petstore and waited for my girlfriend to get out of class. I had our yorkie with me and all she did was sleep the whole time. She would cough so often as well and spit would come out of her mouth which seemed like flem. So i knew she wasn't getting any better. When my girlfriend got out of class, we headed over to the lady's house who had a baby yorkie for sale for $1,000. My girlfriend wanted to check out the puppy. We had to wait for her because she was not home yet. As we waited my girlfriend and i talked about the situation. She wanted to save money and so did I, $1,500 is a lot to save on a dog so we decided to return our sick yorkie to the pet store. We saw the new yorkies for sale at the house, she had both male and female for sale. And my girlfriend really liked the male more since she says that she's soooo small and cute. In my case, i really wasn't excited about the new yorkie yet since I was still soooo attached to our sick yorkie.
We left her house to return our sick yorkie to the petshop at the mall. While we were at the parking lot, ready to go inside the mall, I cried and cried for a good 30 minutes nonstop. I was soo attached to her already! I know it's only been 3 days, but i spent soooo much time with her, caring for her and always being there for her. IMO i believe she already knew me as her "dad". From the day we took her home, I always let her sleep on my bed, I couldn't leave her in the cage at all. And to say the least, i really think that she got used to the homey feeling of being in my house around my family. Everyone loved her already, especially my mother, she even knitted and sewed 3 clothings for her.
I'm sad right now as i am typing. I really am. :cry: Getting back on track with the story, as my girlfriend calmed me down after crying (i never had any idea that i could be soooooo attached to an animal as I was with her ever until now) we entered the mall hiding my tears inside. Even before we entered the store, the manager already saw us and knew we were going to return her. So she did not hesistate and right away got to work with the paperwoks. I myself did not stay inside the petstore for even more than 2 minutes, as I said my final goodbye to Geanalyn and handed her to the manager, I asked her to take good care of her and she said we will. I also asked her what's going to happen to her now? as soon as she answered with "SHE WILL BE SOLD" positively and with atitude to me, I walked out of the petstore crying my heart out. (She said it heartlessly but I guess she's only thinking about her business and I can understand her saying that because that mall that we went to Menlo Park Mall in Edison, NJ is around a RICH upperclass community area). I stayed in the parking lot as my girlfriend took care of the rest of the refund transaction. I am sooo sad right now. I always wonder what Geanalyn is doing and hoping and wishing she is ALRIGHT safe and sound.

After the mall, we headed back to the house of the lady who's yorkie we were going to buy. My girlfriend fell inlove with the male yorkie(keep inmind that she was not as attached to the sick yorkie that we had as much as me because she barely spent time with her) so she decided to buy the male yorkie instead of the female. As far as my opinion goes, I really was not as excited but still supported her decision. So now we have this adorable male yorkie born on January 10, 2005. I know that I will come around into liking the new yorkie as much as i did with Geanalyn but not any time soon. If i was rich and had plenty of money to throw away, I never would have consider returning her to the petshop or even look for another yorkie to buy.
Perhaps this new yorkie was meant for us to buy. Since we did plan to share a dog for our anniversary, the lady's house # was 444 Winthrope Ave. 4/4/04 is when me and my girlfriend made it official. So this is where we stand. The lady owner of the yorkies also was nice enough to us and gave us some pointers on how to save on money by bringing our dog to petco for it's vet needs since they have a "LuvMyPet" program where all the care and pet needs are discounted price. She also told us to visit petedge.com for all her accesories that we need since they have wholesale prices. The lady was really nice and told us that if we have any questions or problem to give her a call anytime. She's no more than 30 min. away from our home.

This concludes our experience this weekend. Even though i only had Geanalyn for 3 days, i know for sure that I will never forget about her. I really hope and wish that she gets settled with a good loving family as good as us if not better! Here are some pictures of both Geanalyn and the new addition to our family. We still dont have a name for him yet. Since I am on this board and you all are such great companions in this forum to talk to, perhaps you can suggest different names on what we should call our new yorkie.

Geanalyn
http://www.crisgean.org/geanalyn2.jpg

New baby boy yorkie
http://www.crisgean.org/yorkiesleep.jpg

Thank you all for your support and kind words. It really means a lot knowing that we have people to relate to. This has been an experience that I will NEVER EVER forget! :aimeeyork

aimee 04-03-2005 01:48 PM

I'm so sorry you are feeling so sad about this. It is normal, and the pain will subside. I think you absolutely did the right thing. I believe you will come to love your new Yorkie just as much in time.

As to a name, hmmm, tough one. I'm sure the members here will have a ton of suggestions for you. I like Coby or Ollie :)

MyTyYorkie 04-03-2005 01:49 PM

thanks so much for the update, I'm sure your new baby will bring you joy and happiness... he is cute. would love to see his little face, and i'm sure you will fall in love with your new baby it won't take long... and I just want you to know you did the right thing taking your sick puppy back.

yorkiegal 04-03-2005 02:11 PM

i did the same thing
 
i just wanted to say that i feel really bad for you that you are sad, but you will definitely grow to love your new pup as much, if not more, as you loved geanalyn.

i bought a miniature dachshund from a pet store about a year ago and the same thing happened to me. he was sick with bloody diarrhea and very lethargic. the vet told me that i should take him back right away, as he could have parvovirus and he was very small and sickly... it was so hard, but i had to do it.

i have two dogs now and i love them more than anything! hopefullyl, they will be healthy for a long time!

take care and congrats on your new puppy!


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:23 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2003 - 2018 YorkieTalk.com
Privacy Policy - Terms of Use


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730 731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 836 837 838 839 840 841 842 843 844 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 883 884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 892 893 894 895 896 897 898 899 900 901 902 903 904 905 906 907 908 909 910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 919 920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929 930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939 940 941 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 950 951 952 953 954 955 956 957 958 959 960 961 962 963 964 965 966 967 968 969 970 971 972 973 974 975 976 977 978 979 980 981 982 983 984 985 986 987 988 989 990 991 992 993 994 995 996 997 998 999 1000 1001 1002 1003 1004 1005 1006 1007 1008 1009 1010 1011 1012 1013 1014 1015 1016 1017 1018 1019 1020 1021 1022 1023 1024 1025 1026 1027 1028 1029 1030 1031 1032 1033 1034 1035 1036 1037 1038 1039 1040 1041 1042 1043 1044 1045 1046 1047 1048 1049 1050 1051 1052 1053 1054 1055 1056 1057 1058 1059 1060 1061 1062 1063 1064 1065 1066 1067 1068 1069 1070 1071 1072 1073 1074 1075 1076 1077 1078 1079 1080 1081 1082 1083 1084 1085 1086 1087 1088 1089 1090 1091 1092 1093 1094 1095 1096 1097 1098 1099 1100 1101 1102 1103 1104 1105 1106 1107 1108 1109 1110 1111 1112 1113 1114 1115 1116 1117 1118 1119 1120 1121 1122 1123 1124 1125 1126 1127 1128 1129 1130 1131 1132 1133 1134 1135 1136 1137 1138 1139 1140 1141 1142 1143 1144 1145 1146 1147 1148 1149 1150 1151 1152 1153 1154 1155 1156 1157 1158 1159 1160 1161 1162 1163 1164 1165 1166 1167 1168