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02-14-2006, 07:28 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Shallotte,N.C.
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| ????"Teacup"-"Toy"????? I am new to the site so I have spent a great deal of time just reading posts. There are lots of things I have questions about but one of the things that puzzles me most is all the uproar regarding the terms "Teacup and/or Toy" when refering to Yorkies. I take no side on this issue I am just trying to understand. Bob |
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02-14-2006, 07:31 AM | #2 |
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| Well all yorkies are classified as toy breeds so they are all toys. There is no such thing as teacup it is just a marketing term used by breeders to get more money for the dog.
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02-14-2006, 07:35 AM | #3 |
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| Welcome to YT Bob! chachi answered your question, so I just wanted to welcome you!
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02-14-2006, 07:35 AM | #4 |
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| No uproar, or side to be taken. Fact is there is no such thing as teacup, mini, toy. Yorkies are not classified like that, like some breeds are. But people say and claim to have Toy Yorkies, which are just smaller versions. The breed standard that I have always read for a Yorkshire Terrier is 5-7 pounds. Being that size they are in the TOY class.
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02-14-2006, 07:37 AM | #5 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: indiana
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| I don't see what all the fuss is about.... We all know what it means. Small Dog. Most people I hear use the term are not breeders. It really doesn't bother me to hear the term. |
02-14-2006, 07:38 AM | #6 |
YT Addict | In the old days teacups were called the runt of the litter....That really didn't sound to good , so the term teacup is used to entice the public...
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02-14-2006, 07:39 AM | #7 |
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| The debate comes in because the term is mainly used to try to charge more money for these tiny, tiny pups. The akc standard is 4-7 pounds. The problem is these tiny babies tend to have more health problems, are more fragile - some do have healthy tiny babies - but the risks are huge!! There are tiny puppies born out of standard sized dogs - this is not the problem - it's when people try to profit over it and then try to breed these tiny ones with no regard to their health that people tend to have problems. It's just much safer for a five to seven pound female to bred than a 3 or even 4 pounder plain and simple. There are people who do it and with some success but to me - it's not the standard weight and the risk is just not worth it!! You make the decision to breed them they don't - why put them in danger for the sake of money or to see who can get the teeny tiniest dog!! This is just my opinion and I am sure you will get others. Thanks for trying to understand the debate over this. |
02-14-2006, 07:40 AM | #8 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Shallotte,N.C.
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| What makes this use ot Teacup so offensive to so many? I understand the price thing, but one of the threads I read got down right mean with name calling and such, and being new I just wondered. |
02-14-2006, 07:42 AM | #9 | |
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02-14-2006, 07:45 AM | #10 |
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| True...... But there is such a high demmand for small puppies. People that want then are going to pay a higher price for exactly what they want. If someone knows they can get 1500.00 for a pup do you really think they only ask 200.00 because it was smaller? |
02-14-2006, 07:46 AM | #11 | |
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The word teacup doesn't bother me -- what it represents bothers me. If people were just calling smaller Yorkies teacups in a cutesy way, it wouldn't bother me AT ALL. In fact, I think it's a cute term for the smaller then usual size Yorkies (meaning any Yorkie smaller then the standard). But as Chachi said, unscrupulous breeders use the term "teacup" as a marketing technique to charge more money for their dogs.
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02-14-2006, 07:49 AM | #12 |
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| I am not talking about people who are selling the smaller yorkies when I am talking about toy. All yorkies are toy so no one should be profiting more by calling their dog a toy. No I dont see anything wrong with someone asking more for a smaller dog. I do see something wrong with calling them a teacup and asking more since there is no such classification as a teacup. They could call them small or tiny and I wouldnt see any big deal. They are classifing them as a different dog.
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02-14-2006, 07:50 AM | #13 | |
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02-14-2006, 07:52 AM | #14 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Shallotte,N.C.
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| I am somewhat enlightened I will keep reading and LEARNING. Thank you to all that have replied. I have one other quick question, where is GMT time zone, I am Eastern Standard and one hour behind GMT. |
02-14-2006, 07:52 AM | #15 |
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| Teacup is not a 'proper' term for a dog - at all. They stated that on the Westminster dog show last night. It causes people to want the tiny dogs as a toy. It is very hard for the vet to work on such a small dog. I lost a little 4 pound pup which was the runt of my litter, he was 4 months old. The vet called all around to find an emergency clinic that could even work on him. It cost $1,000 and they had to put him to sleep. They crash really quickly, and even though I called my vet, stayed up all night with him; met the vet at 5am as he began to stagger when he woke up. 5 hours at the emergency clinic and they could not save him. My vet was nice enough not to even charge me to meet me at 5am on Sunday morning at her office.
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