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kittendes · 02-14-2006, 07:52 AM

When the phrase "teacup" is used you will see alot of tempers start to flare up. You can say we are "Passionate" about the breed and we hate to see people expoiting our beautiful Yorkie babies.
Oh, and welcome to Yorkietalk

Desiree

lisakurth · 02-14-2006, 08:00 AM

That was the perfect reply.

chachi · 02-14-2006, 08:04 AM

It doesnt bother me at all when people use the tem teacup only when breeders use it to get more money. I did think it was interesting that they mentioned there is no such thing as a teacup on the Westminister Dog Show last night though.

rrosenberry · 02-14-2006, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by lisakurth

That was the perfect reply.

I agree, well said, and very true.

hle_625 · 02-14-2006, 08:15 AM

Like everyone has said some breeders just take advantage of the tiny ones and give them a special name, in this case a teacup, and charge outragous prices for them.

lovelilly · 02-14-2006, 08:22 AM

I'm fairly new to the site...but more than money I think it is the health of the mommy. I think it makes people crazy to think someone is breeding a yorkie mom that weighs under 5 pounds. Since, they vary in weight you could get a 3 pound mom with larger puppies and she has a very serious chance of dying in the process.

Everyone here loves their dogs like children and it makes people made to think that "some" people breeder smaller moms to make a larger profit and they do not care for the welfare of the mom.

I don't think it is the term "teacup" it is how the puppy came to be. If it was born from a standard size mom...that is fine...it is when they were trying to get smaller dogs for profit.

Just my thoughts

chachi · 02-14-2006, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by hle_625

Like everyone has said some breeders just take advantage of the tiny ones and give them a special name, in this case a teacup, and charge outragous prices for them.

I am looking for a smaller one and I swear it is the biggest scam going.
Especially when you see the puppies weight is like 2 lbs at 8 weeks and is definitely not going to be a tiny.

hle_625 · 02-14-2006, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by chachi

I am looking for a smaller one and I swear it is the biggest scam going.
Especially when you see the puppies weight is like 2 lbs at 8 weeks and is definitely not going to be a tiny.

Yeah I know what you mean but if you are new to the breed and you go to someone who is suppose to be this good breeder and they tell you that this puppy is going to be tiny then you would believe it. Or at least I would. These breeders take advantage of the newbies to the wonderful breed and do nothing but give the good breeders a bad name.

PlatinumYorkies · 02-14-2006, 08:35 AM

It's a Marketing Tool....No such thing as a Teacup

SnowWa · 02-14-2006, 07:31 PM

"Teacup" is a word used by a lot of people (regardless of the breed) to describe a little dog as very small. No harm intended -- and I still can't see why so many people get upset about this.

The word "teacup" started out meaning that a little dog could literally almost fit into a teacup. (What a cute picture this has always been.)

Now - for some reason - many Yorkie owners (who, of course, know a lot about Yorkier and many who are near experts about the breed ---- go into a spasm everytime anyone refers to a little Yorkie as a "teacup."

I don't mind correcting people if this is so important - but to refer to these people as "ignorant and stupid" people (which many many people on this site do) has always been beyond me.

A person called my pup a "teacup." I said, "That description might fit him now (because he weighed only 2 or 3 pounds), but he's not going to stay this small for very long. I think my little guy is going to be a big little Yorkie when he is full grown. And, by the way, there is really is no such thing as a "teacup yorkie." There is only one Yorkie, but I'll tell you - they certainly do come in a wide range of sizes."

Can you imagine - I ran a thread on different sizes once - and we came up with Yorkies weighing from 1 1/2 pounds to 18 pounds. What other breed has such a range in sizes???? Yorkies are wonderful!

Enough said!!!!!

Carol Jean

fasteddie · 02-14-2006, 07:48 PM

Here's some info on GMT, welcome to YorkieTalk!
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Greenwich, England has been the home of Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) since 1884. GMT is sometimes called Greenwich Meridian Time because it is measured from the Greenwich Meridian Line at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich. It is the place from where all time zones are measured.

http://greenwichmeantime.com

Laura · 02-14-2006, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fasteddie

Here's some info on GMT, welcome to YorkieTalk!
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Greenwich, England has been the home of Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) since 1884. GMT is sometimes called Greenwich Meridian Time because it is measured from the Greenwich Meridian Line at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich. It is the place from where all time zones are measured.

http://greenwichmeantime.com

Funny you say that! My husband is an air traffic controller, and I think they no longer use the term GMT. I will have to ask him when he gets up.

tndefender · 02-14-2006, 09:18 PM

The following is from the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America website and I think it explains the issue well:

An Important Message About “Teacup” Yorkies

If you are interested in purchasing a tiny Yorkie, sometimes called a Teacup,
Micro Mini, Teenie, or any other name that means “extra small”, there are
several things you should consider. The YTCA’s Code of Ethics precludes the use of the words “teacup”, “tiny specialists”, doll faced, or similar terminology by its members, and for good reason.
.
All breeders may occasionally have an unusually small Yorkie (hopefully healthy), though no responsible breeder breeds for this trait. Many breeders prefer a general weight range of 4-7 four pounds believing that size retains desired Toy qualities while maintaining optimum health. The Yorkie Standard states weight "must not exceed seven pounds" and as a prospective pet owner you should realize that even at 7 pounds, the Yorkie is still a small dog. (Females weighing less than 5 pounds are considered by most breeders to be unsuitable for breeding.)
.
Special circumstances often come with extra tiny dogs. They are extremely
susceptible to both hereditary and non-hereditary health problems, including
birth defects that may go undetected for a long time. Other common
problems may include, but are not limited to, diarrhea, vomiting, along with
extra and expensive tests prior to routine teeth cleanings and surgeries.
Small ones are more likely to have poor reactions to anesthesia and die from
it. Tiny dogs are more easily injured by falls, being stepped on and being
attacked by other dogs. These health problems nearly always result in
large veterinary bills.
.
Please take this into consideration and make purchasing a healthy pet your top priority, not size. The “novelty” is certainly not worth the pain, heartbreak, or extra expense. Remember, all Yorkies are comparatively small. The most important thing is finding a healthy puppy that will grow into a healthy adult, especially since you looking at an 11 to 15 year commitment with your Yorkie.

02-14-2006, 08:00 AM	#17
lisakurth Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: indiana Posts: 72	Kittendes..... That was the perfect reply.

02-14-2006, 08:04 AM	#18
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	It doesnt bother me at all when people use the tem teacup only when breeders use it to get more money. I did think it was interesting that they mentioned there is no such thing as a teacup on the Westminister Dog Show last night though. __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

02-14-2006, 08:15 AM	#20
hle_625 Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 4,637	Like everyone has said some breeders just take advantage of the tiny ones and give them a special name, in this case a teacup, and charge outragous prices for them. __________________ Heather, Chloe Lynn and Daisy May

02-14-2006, 08:22 AM	#21
lovelilly Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Henderson CO Posts: 640	I'm fairly new to the site...but more than money I think it is the health of the mommy. I think it makes people crazy to think someone is breeding a yorkie mom that weighs under 5 pounds. Since, they vary in weight you could get a 3 pound mom with larger puppies and she has a very serious chance of dying in the process. Everyone here loves their dogs like children and it makes people made to think that "some" people breeder smaller moms to make a larger profit and they do not care for the welfare of the mom. I don't think it is the term "teacup" it is how the puppy came to be. If it was born from a standard size mom...that is fine...it is when they were trying to get smaller dogs for profit. Just my thoughts __________________ We our yorkie family Tucker, Lilly & Scout! More info on me and my family http://www.myspace.com/99824468

02-14-2006, 08:35 AM	#24
PlatinumYorkies Monte, Mone't's Joy! Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MD Posts: 3,009	It's a Marketing Tool....No such thing as a Teacup __________________ "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."!! **Mone't Mom 2 Monte**

02-14-2006, 07:52 AM	#16
kittendes Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Perkasie, PA Posts: 214	When the phrase "teacup" is used you will see alot of tempers start to flare up. You can say we are "Passionate" about the breed and we hate to see people expoiting our beautiful Yorkie babies. Oh, and welcome to Yorkietalk Desiree

02-14-2006, 07:31 PM	#25
SnowWa YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,992	"Teacup" is a word used by a lot of people (regardless of the breed) to describe a little dog as very small. No harm intended -- and I still can't see why so many people get upset about this. The word "teacup" started out meaning that a little dog could literally almost fit into a teacup. (What a cute picture this has always been.) Now - for some reason - many Yorkie owners (who, of course, know a lot about Yorkier and many who are near experts about the breed ---- go into a spasm everytime anyone refers to a little Yorkie as a "teacup." I don't mind correcting people if this is so important - but to refer to these people as "ignorant and stupid" people (which many many people on this site do) has always been beyond me. A person called my pup a "teacup." I said, "That description might fit him now (because he weighed only 2 or 3 pounds), but he's not going to stay this small for very long. I think my little guy is going to be a big little Yorkie when he is full grown. And, by the way, there is really is no such thing as a "teacup yorkie." There is only one Yorkie, but I'll tell you - they certainly do come in a wide range of sizes." Can you imagine - I ran a thread on different sizes once - and we came up with Yorkies weighing from 1 1/2 pounds to 18 pounds. What other breed has such a range in sizes???? Yorkies are wonderful! Enough said!!!!! Carol Jean __________________ http://tinypic.com/ipxhmb.jpg A Yorkie is worth a thousand words.

02-14-2006, 07:48 PM	#26
fasteddie *YT 6000 Club Member* Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,238	Here's some info on GMT, welcome to YorkieTalk! --- Greenwich, England has been the home of Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) since 1884. GMT is sometimes called Greenwich Meridian Time because it is measured from the Greenwich Meridian Line at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich. It is the place from where all time zones are measured. http://greenwichmeantime.com __________________ YODA & WINKY R ::: RIP Winky ::: RIP Yoda!

02-14-2006, 09:18 PM	#28
tndefender Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Germantown, Tennessee Posts: 57	The following is from the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America website and I think it explains the issue well: An Important Message About “Teacup” Yorkies If you are interested in purchasing a tiny Yorkie, sometimes called a Teacup, Micro Mini, Teenie, or any other name that means “extra small”, there are several things you should consider. The YTCA’s Code of Ethics precludes the use of the words “teacup”, “tiny specialists”, doll faced, or similar terminology by its members, and for good reason. . All breeders may occasionally have an unusually small Yorkie (hopefully healthy), though no responsible breeder breeds for this trait. Many breeders prefer a general weight range of 4-7 four pounds believing that size retains desired Toy qualities while maintaining optimum health. The Yorkie Standard states weight "must not exceed seven pounds" and as a prospective pet owner you should realize that even at 7 pounds, the Yorkie is still a small dog. (Females weighing less than 5 pounds are considered by most breeders to be unsuitable for breeding.) . Special circumstances often come with extra tiny dogs. They are extremely susceptible to both hereditary and non-hereditary health problems, including birth defects that may go undetected for a long time. Other common problems may include, but are not limited to, diarrhea, vomiting, along with extra and expensive tests prior to routine teeth cleanings and surgeries. Small ones are more likely to have poor reactions to anesthesia and die from it. Tiny dogs are more easily injured by falls, being stepped on and being attacked by other dogs. These health problems nearly always result in large veterinary bills. . Please take this into consideration and make purchasing a healthy pet your top priority, not size. The “novelty” is certainly not worth the pain, heartbreak, or extra expense. Remember, all Yorkies are comparatively small. The most important thing is finding a healthy puppy that will grow into a healthy adult, especially since you looking at an 11 to 15 year commitment with your Yorkie. __________________ Real Men Yorkies!