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02-07-2006, 06:38 PM | #1 |
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| I Feel Female Dogs Are Descriminated At Doggie Parks! I took Ruby to the doggie park yestarday as we hadn't been there for along time because she is in heat. Ofcourse I had panties on her to protect that area. She was doing fine playing with others until an older lab got close to her and started sniffing her and i guess he detected it. Well as soon as I started seen his interest I went to pick her up and there was the labs owner infront sitting in oneof those convas folding chairs. So I picked her up and said"I think he is interested because she is in heat" ,He didn't even give me the chance to say I was getting ready to leave when he said"If she is in heat then she shouldn't even be here" I said "Well thats why I have her wearing panties" he then just gave me the look. I understand why my female dog shouldn't be there because she is unaltered, but unaltered male dogs have no troubles being there. I think I am just as much at fault as those with unaltered male dogs. I think both sexes should be judged with same criteria. My little girl is going around teasing the dogs that aren't fixed she was just there to play. I think this is very unfair of people to think that those of us with females should stay at home while they are in heat and the males that have testicles have notroubles being out and about. |
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02-07-2006, 06:49 PM | #2 |
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| the only reason it is frowned upon to take a female who is in heat to a dog park is beacuse it may spawn aggressive behavior in the unaltered male dogs who are there. and sometimes the little female or big female can get caught in the middle of the ensuing fight over who would be the "alpha" dog to get to breed with said female. i think for the safety of all the dogs at the park that a female in heat shouldn't be taken i. i know i'd feel horrible if two or more male dogs were to start fighting because of my female who was in heat.. and then you have a whole different set of problems to deal with. just my opinion though others have their own.
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02-07-2006, 06:55 PM | #3 | |
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02-07-2006, 07:02 PM | #4 | |
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02-07-2006, 07:03 PM | #5 | |
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02-07-2006, 07:03 PM | #6 |
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| not all unaltered male dogs have a tendency to want to be alpha. but... give them a reason to fight (like an unaltered female) and they will. that beign said bot9h my dogs are altered and so are my yorkie nephews. i do agree that some unaltered male dogs shouldn't be at the park but if you put an unaltered male in with unaltered females... chances are the females won't start bloody fights to get to breed with him. they have other ways. and a pair of panties on her wouldn't really help if the dog were determined to breed her. and if you really think about it... if an unaltered female wasn't in the park the chances of males fighting over her wouldn't exist. i can only imagine the heartbreak if something happened to someones dog because the female was in heat and all the intact males caught scent (which many do if the female is within a mile! omg... talk about single minded lol) though i must say that unless your (not specifically you, just in general) pet is used to better the breed it should be spayed or neutered to avoid unwanted litters that many times end up in shelters and then when no one wants the puppies.. a more tragic ending for them.
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02-07-2006, 07:06 PM | #7 |
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| When you take your dog into a public place, it is the owner's responsibility to control their own dog and safeguard those around them. If you cannot reasonably control your dog, be it male or female, altered or not, then you should not have him/her out in public. It is not a doggie thing it is a human thing. |
02-07-2006, 07:25 PM | #8 |
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| I am glad other are with me. I thought I was alone in this frame of mind. I just think male or female they should be measured with the same ruler. |
02-07-2006, 07:45 PM | #9 |
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| The pet park here in Grand Rapids will not allow any unaltered males in the park or females in season. So I think it's kind of unfare that my Gizmo is never allowed in the part at all, but the girls are. It sounds fun, but I would never leave my Gizmo behind!
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02-07-2006, 07:48 PM | #10 | |
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I think that it would be best to keep a female in heat on a leash when in the park since you never know if the intact males are properly trained. When my girls are in heat and we go to the small dog park, I always ask if there are any intact males there and i ask each new dog owner that arrives. I hold my girls or keep them in the stroller if the intact males are not obedience trained. | |
02-07-2006, 07:50 PM | #11 |
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| Unless you are showing or planning to breed all dogs should be fixed. One it's healthier for the dog, and two it makes issues like this, a non issue. Regardless of whether there are unfixed males at the park I wouldn't bring a female that is in heat there. I grew up dealing with show dogs and females that were in heat were always separated from the males not only to avoid unintentional breeding but to cull the violent behavior that males can exhibit when a bitch is in heat. The sweetest male can become a very different creature when exposed to a female in heat, it's instinctual. Domesticated dogs (and cats for that matter) are only so far removed from there wild ancestry. Yes, the owners of unspayed males ARE responsible for there dogs behaviour. However exposing them to a bitch in heat is not a wise decision. It's unfair to the males, causing them stress and very risky to have your little yorkie exposed to situation that may become aggressive. Like I said all dogs should be fixed. However if someone has a male that is showing or acting as stud (retired from the ring) they have every right to be at the park. We loved our females (I always have a female, to this day) but they were ALWAYS separated during heat. When your little baby comes out of heat then bring her back to the park. Measured with the same ruler? Sure in theory, however male and female dogs do not share the same ruler. |
02-07-2006, 07:59 PM | #12 | |
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02-07-2006, 08:08 PM | #13 |
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| Oh Lord, here it comes... I bet this is a difficult thing to have to deal with. There are not any dog parks near us so luckily I don't have to deal with this and the boy next door has been fixed. Reading all this, maybe not having a park near us is a blessing in disguise! |
02-07-2006, 08:24 PM | #14 |
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| I can't imagine anyone taking a female dog in heat (covered or not) out to a public place where other dogs are. Believe me - male dogs can smell a female in heat miles away! And, it certainly will bring out the best and the worst in any boy dog --- every time!! A male dog being neutered is premanent procedure as is a female dog being spayed. But a female in heat is only temporary - and it shouldn't be too much of a problem staying home - away from other dogs - for that short period of time. A diaper only keeps the female from spotting - it doesn't keep every male within a mile from knowing she's in heat. I have never thought about males having to be neutered to go to dog parks. I know a lot of them aren't at one park I go to - but it has never caused any problems. Carol Jean |
02-07-2006, 10:04 PM | #15 | |
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Sometimes you don't even know when a female is in heat. How do they know and who checks? Also does this mean that stud dogs NEVER get to go to the park for their entire lives? How sad and what kind of a life must that be? To stay in your yard and never go for rides in the car or exploring new places? | |
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