Parti Yorkie Colorado - HELP

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by ChibiLuv

Also the two breeders I found that show Akc, have titles, health test, train, and support their puppies and are reputable are selling their pups in the 1,800-2,400 range which is about where most good yorkie breeders are too

That’s interesting because the Biewers I have seen are well over $3,000 and I have seen any under that but maybe I’m not searching hard enough. I have never paid over a $1000 for a yorkie and that was Callie who came from a puppy mill and ended up with lots of issues but other then Callie I haven taken the outcasts no one wants. Joey was 9 weeks old no papers, full tail and had 2 homes before coming to me but he also came with a travel crate, a regular crate, some pee pads, toys and adult diet food with bad separation anxiety for $650. Penny was a gift for a 12 year old who lost interest at 8 months and came with ACA papers and a bad UTI, not spayed and really dirty for $500. Then Ollie turned out to be bigger then even his parents at 5 months old and no one wanted him because of that. He came from a midline breed not the worst but certainly not the best he actually had AKC papers and is a chocolate for $700 with full breeding rights. I have always been the kid who wanted the stuffed animals that had things messed up so not surprised to be the island of misfit yorkies lol. I have actually have slightly been looking for a puppy to help keep me busy due to the loss of Callie but I can’t have a 5 or 7 pound adult yorkie because mine are bigger at 14, 15 and 16 pounds and I don’t want a little one get hurt when they play. So it’s harder. I talked to Ollies breeder and if she or any breeders she knows have a bigger pup they will let me know but it could be forever. Sorry I’m blabbing on and on.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

I didn't even know about personalities or breed traits, was drawn to want a my first Yorkie from that little clear face and expression, so I searched newspaper ads, Back then Yorkies were rare in dogs ads in the paper so the one for Scotty was it for months. I called, went to look and see and that face hooked me. How can personality draw you to a dog you've never even met?

Love me some chocolate Yorkies, too, but still, it's not my eye's favorite look for a Yorkie but we're all different, love what we love, which is why color mutations are so popular, due to their different look. A lot of people love different, 'rare', unique looks. And personality differences don't really move me, love all the differences dogs' personalities I've had here had, of course, except for the shut-down ones or severely frightened, fear-vicious dogs, who I felt so tender toward helping them was harder on my psyche, my nerves, my heart. You can't feel sorry for them and really be matter-of-fact when rehabbing them - they sense all your feelings and you really have to do self-talk to gear up to help them.

AKC, non-AKC, breeders will do what they and we want w/breeding dogs so no organizing body is ever going to be perfect or non-corrupt. What the AKC, other breeders did to GSD's is a horror to my eyes, seemingly ruined their hips and poor little Pekes, Bulldogs can rarely even naturally whelp due to enormous infant head sizes, seem to work at walking well, severely smushed muzzles so they struggle to cool themselves in hot temperatures, breathe audibly, seem to struggle for enough air - ugh! - again, from the current fad of breeders/buyers who care little for personality, just go for certain looks and who gradually change some show judge's minds by what is faddish. But personality wise, I love all those breeds, even w/their looks and problems but could never have one as they just seem to struggle w/so many issues. I love the look and personality of today's bulldog but cringe when I realize how so many seem to be having problems just getting through life. Whether we trim tails when pups are neonates who settle w/in moments of the procedure, cry more from being picked up or removed from their littermates vs. whether or not a breed can breathe w/out struggle, whelp naturally vs. dying if left to whelp alone and walk well seem far different issues to me so I recognize we're all different and put emphasis on different things we do or don't do to dogs, so be it.

When I say personality I mean the traits of yorkies personality’s and their very terrier attitudes. There are certain things certain breeds are known for. Obviously somethings relate to if you train them or not. I guess due to being overweight the majority of my life I see past looks significantly and that’s not the major thing for me. I mean Callie healthy was 17 pounds with floppy ears but absolutely beautiful to me but not a true yorkie person I guess. The same goes for Penny and Ollie with their 15 and 16 pounds with floppy ears. Joey although has the erect years he has an absolutely beautiful full tail at 14 pounds. When I got them I really didn’t care how them looked as adults I just knew I loved them and would love them no matter what. Although they all are very different they all have the major traits of the yorkie attitude and such. Yes they all minus Callie were unwanted so there was some training and understanding needed with them but I have been able to work through these issues when some were a lot of work but well worth it. One thing I have learned is you can train a dog if you are fearful.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

When I say personality I mean the traits of yorkies personality’s and their very terrier attitudes. There are certain things certain breeds are known for. Obviously somethings relate to if you train them or not. I guess due to being overweight the majority of my life I see past looks significantly and that’s not the major thing for me. I mean Callie healthy was 17 pounds with floppy ears but absolutely beautiful to me but not a true yorkie person I guess. The same goes for Penny and Ollie with their 15 and 16 pounds with floppy ears. Joey although has the erect years he has an absolutely beautiful full tail at 14 pounds. When I got them I really didn’t care how them looked as adults I just knew I loved them and would love them no matter what. Although they all are very different they all have the major traits of the yorkie attitude and such. Yes they all minus Callie were unwanted so there was some training and understanding needed with them but I have been able to work through these issues when some were a lot of work but well worth it. One thing I have learned is you can train a dog if you are fearful.

All dogs are beautiful to me but I still have a preferred Yorkie look I've always loved, nothing seems to change that but I've taken and cared for, sat up nights with, dearly loved thin, poorly conformed little sickly runts, rehomes of every look, type, personality, problem, big, nasty, vicious dogs, lame, crooked, very, very ill ones and loved every one of them just as I did Scotty, Jilly or Tibbe. Love doesn't see anything but that dog's beautiful heart. So I understand OP has a look she would like to try to find if she can.

Regarding training a dog when fearful, don't know why but I've never feared any dog in my life, even big, powerful dogs trying to attack or bite me out of fear when we first met but I feel so sorry for them, knowing their breeding or their lives have really suffered terribly somewhere thanks to humans along the way to cause them to react so fearfully, aggressively. It's really hard not to feel tender toward even the most 'bad' dog who'd love to bite me as I know likely some human had a hand in it and know if I can't help, rehab him/her, they'll likely one day be killed after leaving foster care!

And if you cannot control a dog who is vicious or restrain it so it can't get to innocent people, little kids to bite/maim/kill them, killing it is maybe the kindest thing to be done for everybody's sake as the dog is totally miserable itself being so scared, knowing humans think he is bad, mean, lacking any real companionship or relationship in his life, feeling so alone. So trying to work myself out of feeling sorry for the dog into the right, matter-of-fact teacher mode is really hard as every time they show teeth or snap, I want to cry, soothe, hug, love them. That's the worst thing to do at that moment so keeping a clinical, calm approach w/out the dog sensing your tender heart, sees feeling sorry for it as reinforcement of his biting/snarling/lunging and you want to teach him other ways to react around humans, learn trust, respect and feel it from humans so he becomes a secure, stable, happy dog. They all are wonderful creatures and so enrich our lives, whatever their look or personality.

Good hunting, Saranshay. Let us know how the hunt goes.

[ChibiLuv]

My yorkie Molli is AKC but she’s cotton coat which is a fault and she’s bigger (11pounds) so she wouldn’t be show dog material but she’s got the temperament and is the best. Just saying through my research it seems only the higher caliber breeders will let you meet the puppy.
Also after researching both Yorkies and Biewers I have to say they look the same to me. My heart dog was a yorkie mix so I dunno if that makes me not a true yorkie person. To me they have the same sweet, bright, slightly mischievous smile. Pictures from Benchmaark Biewers in Michigan

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by ChibiLuv

My yorkie Molli is AKC but she’s cotton coat which is a fault and she’s bigger (11pounds) so she wouldn’t be show dog material but she’s got the temperament and is the best. Just saying through my research it seems only the higher caliber breeders will let you meet the puppy.
Also after researching both Yorkies and Biewers I have to say they look the same to me. My heart dog was a yorkie mix so I dunno if that makes me not a true yorkie person. To me they have the same sweet, bright, slightly mischievous smile. Pictures from Benchmaark Biewers in Michigan

To me there are some visual difference but it’s kind of like yorkies and silkys, you have to look carefully to find the differences but they are there. There is also a size deference with Biewers getting a little bigger then yorkies. I don’t think the caliber of breeder maters when being let to meet all the puppies because I have known bad breeders who let you to and great ones who didn’t so I think it just depends on the breeder. I’m sure due to my opinions and stuff I’m not considered a true yorkie person I guess. I dislike dog shows and what the AKC has done to certain breeds, I don’t think show breeders are always what people make them out to be and I love bigger yorkies. My heart dog Callie was my first yorkie and
I thought she was the most perfect dog ever created. She was 17 pounds floppy ears, very chill, knew when I was going to have my panic and anxiety attacks and almost never barked and so on. She had this ability to make even non dog people love her.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by ChibiLuv

My yorkie Molli is AKC but she’s cotton coat which is a fault and she’s bigger (11pounds) so she wouldn’t be show dog material but she’s got the temperament and is the best. Just saying through my research it seems only the higher caliber breeders will let you meet the puppy.
Also after researching both Yorkies and Biewers I have to say they look the same to me. My heart dog was a yorkie mix so I dunno if that makes me not a true yorkie person. To me they have the same sweet, bright, slightly mischievous smile. Pictures from Benchmaark Biewers in Michigan

Even part Yorkie qualifies you as a Yorkie person if you adore the breed but nothing wrong whatever with loving, appreciating, having other breeds or different Yorkie looks for a change anytime you want, as sometimes your feelings are too raw missing your Yorkie to have another one around until you heal more. You'll still love Yorkies just the same even with other breeds and Yorkie looks in your home and heart and absence makes the heart grow fonder, haha. After I lost Scotty, I couldn't abide bringing another little Yorkie in the house for the longest time as it would never be Scotty.

Took 5 years and then another two searching, talking, looking at litters, visiting pounds, finally found the breeder I'd been looking for then waiting for the breeding, pregnancy, whelping, 4 mos. mommy time, etc., before little Jilly came home w/me in place of my long-awaited little beauty from the gorgeous sire and dam, 2nd pick of the litter after the breeder. Breeder brought Jilly out of her work apron front pocket to show me the sickly little dog she'd been caring for from birth, as the dam had turned from her, as I was playing w/my long-awaited lovely perfect Yorkie pup. Jilly was imperfect in almost every way but perfect to me and it took some weeks before I grew to love her but when I did, it was as if Scotty never left, just looked different and behaved differently but every bit the love of my life for the next 13 years when she wasn't expected to live that long. Same story with Tibbe. Each one is so special, however different.