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Old 12-17-2017, 04:58 AM   #1
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Hi everyone, I am new to this forum and last night we brought home our little Abigail. Abby is 15 weeks today. Her breeder said she was using wee wee pads, as did our beloved 13 year old Rocco who recently passed and he went outside. We did not crate Rocco but would like to crate Abby so we can train her properly as Rocco did have accidents. My question is, do we put her bed wee wee pads and food and water in the crate or do we keep it separately I’m so confused on what to do. I wasn’t sure so last night I put a blanket in there as her bed was too big along with a wee wee pad and food and water and when I took her out I thought she was sitting but she was peeing right in front of me LOL. Help! She will not be left alone at all very long but when she does, she will definitely have to go in her crate, she is very tiny and at 15 weeks is only weighing 2 lbs. 4 oz. Any advice is appreciated.
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Hello and welcome . Congrats on lil Abby.

Your crate should only be bug enough for her to stand up and turn around . I used baby blankets to start however be careful as sometimes early potty training the dog still may have accidents with a blanket so I’d suggest no blanket for now .

Bed, water and food bowls keep in your common area . Stay on a potty schedule and be consistent. I crate trained and went outside . Best thing in my opinion on avoiding most accidents on your carpet or the dog thinking it’s okay to potty indoors.
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Hope, you can get some answers to resolve your issue
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Old 12-18-2017, 04:59 PM   #4
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Thank you, after she was barking and crying for quite a a while I brought her crate up to our bedroom and covered it with a blanket and after a while she stopped and slept through the night. The crate however remained in my upstairs bedroom and she has not been in it all day. She has been going in and out of her doggie playpen that we keep downstairs, I hope this doesn’t confuse her, using the playpen all day, and then the crate just at night?
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I just wanted to add that she has open access to the playpen as we keep the door open on it for her so she just goes in when she wants during the day.
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I tried the playpen, with pads, food, bed during the day scenario as well but that still caused accidents. When I removed that and only used the crate I had much better success.

The crate in the bedroom and blanket covering is a great idea. I've done this as well.

To give you an idea of our set up when I worked outside of the home:

Crate was in my bedroom.
As a puppy no blanket until I felt comfortable she wouldn't have accidents in the crate. Size crate 18 (this was about a month)
After a month put baby blanket in the crate.
Schedule 6am Wake up, straight outside
610-630 (While I'm getting dressed for work) She's playing in gated off area, eat
630-Potty Time & Last snuggles before leaving
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1140-12:15 out for potty time, snuggles and play, has a snack
12:15 Quick Potty
12:15 back in the crate
3:00 (My daughter got home from school) potty time for dog, play time, snack
4:50: I'm home from work (potty time again)
This is where I had her out the majority of the evening as she was monitored.
7 pm last snack (Emma is free fed, so she nibbles when she wants)
8pm last potty time before heading upstairs
8:10 Crate time
She slept through the night and we started right back up the next morning

I did this with 2 yorkies and despite challenges with different methods in the beginning this is what has worked for us and our household. Only accidents when I am not paying attention. I do trust Emma with not having an accident if I've left the house for a few hours, but my carpeted areas are blocked off just in case.

I work from home now, so Emma (she'll be 4 in February) and she often times will be in my office with me while I'm working throughout the day, she will alert me when she has to go potty but my rule of thumb is when I have to go, I take her out first. We live in an area where it does get cold and she will potty outside but I have to do 2 trips sometime if she won't poop right away.

Potty training a yorkie took me a year to get to this level and my carpets thank me for it.
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I tried the playpen, with pads, food, bed during the day scenario as well but that still caused accidents. When I removed that and only used the crate I had much better success.

The crate in the bedroom and blanket covering is a great idea. I've done this as well.

To give you an idea of our set up when I worked outside of the home:

Crate was in my bedroom.
As a puppy no blanket until I felt comfortable she wouldn't have accidents in the crate. Size crate 18 (this was about a month)
After a month put baby blanket in the crate.
Schedule 6am Wake up, straight outside
610-630 (While I'm getting dressed for work) She's playing in gated off area, eat
630-Potty Time & Last snuggles before leaving
640-Crate (
1140-12:15 out for potty time, snuggles and play, has a snack
12:15 Quick Potty
12:15 back in the crate
3:00 (My daughter got home from school) potty time for dog, play time, snack
4:50: I'm home from work (potty time again)
This is where I had her out the majority of the evening as she was monitored.
7 pm last snack (Emma is free fed, so she nibbles when she wants)
8pm last potty time before heading upstairs
8:10 Crate time
She slept through the night and we started right back up the next morning

I did this with 2 yorkies and despite challenges with different methods in the beginning this is what has worked for us and our household. Only accidents when I am not paying attention. I do trust Emma with not having an accident if I've left the house for a few hours, but my carpeted areas are blocked off just in case.

I work from home now, so Emma (she'll be 4 in February) and she often times will be in my office with me while I'm working throughout the day, she will alert me when she has to go potty but my rule of thumb is when I have to go, I take her out first. We live in an area where it does get cold and she will potty outside but I have to do 2 trips sometime if she won't poop right away.

Potty training a yorkie took me a year to get to this level and my carpets thank me for it.


This is basically how we crate-trained our Bella. The key is using a small crate. The only difference is we always had a baby blanket in her sleeping crate from the very beginning--she never soiled it. She sleeps in her crate on our night stand where she can see us if she wakes up in the night, and that seems to make her feel more secure. If she whines in the night, we will take her downstairs to use her pad--usually she has to pee. We trained her to use potty pads AND to go outside. That gives us flexibility on super-cold days. Always give your dog lots of praise when he/she goes in the correct place. We still give Bella a small treat every time she poops on her pad, and verbal praise when she poops outside. It took us maybe two months or so before she was 90% potty trained, and a year before she was 100% potty trained.

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I highly favor crate training to minimize accidents as well. But it comes with a lot more initial effort (but very much well worth it in the long run)! And you need to stick with a strict schedule for about a year as Rachael1983 mentioned.

I crate trained my two when they were 5 months old. When I first brought each home, I took them out to potty every 3-4 hours. At 15 weeks, I would imagine you'd have to give them potty breaks a lot more frequently - say, every 2-3 hours in the beginning and build up from there.

No peepads or bedding in the crate or they'll be comfortable to pee on it inside the crate - and that really defeats the purpose.

I tethered them to me at first so there'd be no sneaking off somewhere to have an accident when they were out of their designated area.

Key is to prevent all accidents. Any time there's an accident, make sure you clean it properly (i.e. Nature's Miracle) and then make adjustments to prevent another similar accident. For example, if she pees on a mat. Take away the mat and/or limit the access to that mat or area. If she has a pee accident within 3 hours, make sure to take her out every 2 hours. Do this until all potty is done outdoors. Then slowly increase the time to 3 hours. This will be over a span of weeks and months.
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I personally have never pad trained a dog I always teach them to go outside. I would take them potty before bed, put them to bed and if they woke up crying I would take them potty and then put them back to bed. I always keep the crate in my bed room where they can see me. I'm not a huge fan of putting a potty pad in the crate because they generally know not to potty where they sleep so that is kinda telling them to potty where they sleep. If I was gone during the day I would use a play pen set up so they have room to move around and then use the crate at night.
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Thanks everyone the crate in our bedroom covered with a blanket and no we we pad it seems to be working after about 15 to 20 minutes if she stops barking and crying and finally falls asleep. The newest issue we have is my husband and I work a very odd schedule I am up as early as four or 5 AM, I have to literally sneak out of the bedroom on my tippy toes because if she hears me she starts barking which is a problem for the rest of the family Because she is waking everybody else up at 4:30 AM. It clearly seems like she is only doing it because she hears me. This morning I had to get up at 4 AM for work and she heard me and started barking like crazy probably waking the rest of the family. As far as the potty training we take her outside so much but she does not like it and then as soon as I bring her in she’ll have a little accident on the tiny little mat near the front door, she clearly is used to wee wee pads from her breeder. She is so stinking cute though!! 💗
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I also have a Potty Training Guide in pdf form I could email to you -- if you want it, let me know via private message - you'd have to send me your email address as I can't attach it here.
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Thanks everyone the crate in our bedroom covered with a blanket and no we we pad it seems to be working after about 15 to 20 minutes if she stops barking and crying and finally falls asleep. The newest issue we have is my husband and I work a very odd schedule I am up as early as four or 5 AM, I have to literally sneak out of the bedroom on my tippy toes because if she hears me she starts barking which is a problem for the rest of the family Because she is waking everybody else up at 4:30 AM. It clearly seems like she is only doing it because she hears me. This morning I had to get up at 4 AM for work and she heard me and started barking like crazy probably waking the rest of the family. As far as the potty training we take her outside so much but she does not like it and then as soon as I bring her in she’ll have a little accident on the tiny little mat near the front door, she clearly is used to wee wee pads from her breeder. She is so stinking cute though!! 💗


My breeder also used pads so there was an adjustment for Emma. I can on,y imagine how the puppy yap is taxing on the family in the early hours . Think of her as a new baby, the whole family is pretty much Team no sleep until the new baby is trained. Hang in there.
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Thanks everyone the crate in our bedroom covered with a blanket and no we we pad it seems to be working after about 15 to 20 minutes if she stops barking and crying and finally falls asleep. The newest issue we have is my husband and I work a very odd schedule I am up as early as four or 5 AM, I have to literally sneak out of the bedroom on my tippy toes because if she hears me she starts barking which is a problem for the rest of the family Because she is waking everybody else up at 4:30 AM. It clearly seems like she is only doing it because she hears me. This morning I had to get up at 4 AM for work and she heard me and started barking like crazy probably waking the rest of the family. As far as the potty training we take her outside so much but she does not like it and then as soon as I bring her in she’ll have a little accident on the tiny little mat near the front door, she clearly is used to wee wee pads from her breeder. She is so stinking cute though!! 💗
All of mine when puppies were up early in the morning around 5am and slowly moved to sleeping in. It might just take time to adjust to everything. It's like a newborn baby.
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