Dogs constant chewing on the bone cleans her teeth?

[FlyingNimbus]

Hey guys, my dog has been chewing daily her bone sometimes for hours, and after like what feels 2 weeks... her teeth are looking much cleaner, and the tartar is dissipating...

If I could only take a photo-- she only allows me to open her mouth for a second or two. If I had the before I could show the after as well.


I am still planning on taking her to get her teeth cleaned, but we're doing her vaccines still(she's getting a round every 2 weeks I think) and I don't want to put so much on her plate on one time.


The cleaning was quoted for 400-700

Still, like 80-90% of the tartar on her teeth have gone out.

Now that I saw her mouth, makes me wonder how many teeth a dog should really have, feels like she was missing some (not sure if I looked right)-- I'll ask the vet this upcoming week.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by FlyingNimbus

Hey guys, my dog has been chewing daily her bone sometimes for hours, and after like what feels 2 weeks... her teeth are looking much cleaner, and the tartar is dissipating...

If I could only take a photo-- she only allows me to open her mouth for a second or two. If I had the before I could show the after as well.


I am still planning on taking her to get her teeth cleaned, but we're doing her vaccines still(she's getting a round every 2 weeks I think) and I don't want to put so much on her plate on one time.


The cleaning was quoted for 400-700

Still, like 80-90% of the tartar on her teeth have gone out.

Now that I saw her mouth, makes me wonder how many teeth a dog should really have, feels like she was missing some (not sure if I looked right)-- I'll ask the vet this upcoming week.

It can happen just be careful she doesn't break a tooth. When Callie went to a vet dentist for a dog root canal they did x-rays and she was missing teeth but just ones she didn't have room for mostly. Joey is missing two pre molars on each side on the bottom for sure and I don't know about Penny.

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

It can happen just be careful she doesn't break a tooth. When Callie went to a vet dentist for a dog root canal they did x-rays and she was missing teeth but just ones she didn't have room for mostly. Joey is missing two pre molars on each side on the bottom for sure and I don't know about Penny.

Yeah I've been monitoring when shes chewing, I only let her do it in my room, when I am watching tv and she's only 2-6 ft away from the bed and I can just quickly look at her do it. Also lets me hear her chewing.

She's a naughty girl still (well somewhat) so I have to make sure she doesnt do something stupid whenever she's free walking.

[Jkpal]

What kind of bone is she chewing? Piper is so dang choosy...if lucky, I'll find something she likes for a couple of days (on and off), then she tires of it.

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by Jkpal

What kind of bone is she chewing? Piper is so dang choosy...if lucky, I'll find something she likes for a couple of days (on and off), then she tires of it.

I dont think the brand matters (it wasnt this brand) but it was this

https://www.whitedogbone.com/redbarn...FdeNswod4hkN9g

White color as well. I think its 4-5 inches long not sure.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by FlyingNimbus

I dont think the brand matters (it wasnt this brand) but it was this

https://www.whitedogbone.com/redbarn...FdeNswod4hkN9g

White color as well. I think its 4-5 inches long not sure.

We only bought those with our bigger dogs growing up and put peanut butter in them. They are very hard though and could very well break teeth.

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

We only bought those with our bigger dogs growing up and put peanut butter in them. They are very hard though and could very well break teeth.

I do not know what else to give her. The other bone I gave her was rather nasty. Smelled nasty too. Had some scrap on it. I mean I don't 100% get it.

I thought bone was supposed to be hard so it doesn't break or fracture and present a choking hazard among other things...

The greenies-- she scarfs up and she's a persistent chewer. She chews and chews and chews. It's her favorite past time. That and scooping up random crap off the floor which annoys me because I feel like we have to be like one of those more traditional japanese home-- where the inhabitants take their shoes off outside, and wear socks indoor, etc.


We sweep daily, and still crud manages to get tracked in- one way or another...

The days we swept after we had gone outside and there's nothing on the floor- she decides to jump on things to purposely find things. I mean common' you can't tell me I can't leave something like a piece of paper or napkins on the desk, or table. Even the decorations... she picked up my moms small teddy bear collection (some boyds apparently) and she started to drag it around. She wasn't very much thrilled at that... We have taught her to leave it and drop it-- but she doesn't leave things automatically.... Like we have to always be on top of her to not be getting into trouble.

Like I don't know if she does it for attention-- because that we plenty much give her....


So a chewing thing that's there is half the prevention. If there is nothing to chew readily available she will find her own thing to chew.

To be honest, what personally annoys me is that she somehow finds these things appealing-- like she'll probably enjoy eating a bug, a baggie, and I wouldn't be surprised if she suddenly started wanting to eat poop. It bugs me because if I give her something like a carrot, banana, lettuce, apple slices, etc she snootily moves her face from it.


I have been taking her to the training classes as well, and all they say is to just keep the area clean, give enough stuff to chew, and keep her well fed... and to teach her leave it and drop it...


Which all work to some extent... If she doesn't find anything of interest on the floor, she will actively look for it on tables, and if she cannot reach it-- she will try to ram at it. Why ? I don't even know why a dog rams at thing. I wasn't even sure they were capable of that complex thought, I thought dogs had the intellect of a 3 year old.


If I tell her not to do it, she stops for a minute, then she goes at it again, If I tell her again not to do it-- she does it again still.

I am thinking of getting her one of those citronella or sound collars that you can press at will at someones recommendation. Doesn't hurt them, it discourages them.

The only reason I haven't gotten it yet is because I am trying to keep within a certain spending limit unless it's utmost important (considering the large vet bills, the session costs, and all the other stuff I keep getting her).

Soon this up coming week I am thinking of buying her the collar, as that's my next check.


I bought her that bone and it wasn't cheap-- was like 20 bucks ( the store I got it from was rather expensive but it was the only store I knew that carried them).

I was thinking of getting her deer antlers, and some weird yak bone thingy.


Within the month I have to take her to the vet for her dental which is 400-700.


There was someone who mentioned that dogs aren't stubborn, etc. You can't really say a dog isn't stubborn if you haven't lived with the particular dog, and trained with the particular dog.

I am sure over time she will get it or give in...


Thing is, she knows she shouldn't be doing these things because anytime she does it and I get near she stops right on her tracks- but if it's interesting enough no amount of me telling her not to do it won't stop her.




Also now I need to look for a tall gate that:

1) She cannot climb (so the gate can't have those holes)

2)She cannot topple or break

3)She cannot jump over.

I was thinking of just getting a thick piece of wood that's 4ft tall x 2-3ft long and make a gate out of that.. but I need to find a way to keep it from scratching up the wooden floors...



I also need to get her-- her own leash that isn't retractable as I don't really trust on those-- it's essentially a thin piece of cord... I am only using it for the mean time as it's what we had on hand and I wanted to research a good leash before buying it.


I do want to clarify I am not actually mad at her, I am more just a tad stressed from her doing certain things because I want to do a good job to train her.


The whole thing about snapping/jerking (I don't know how to describe it) the leash anytime we're on walks and she's picking up random crap off the floor only works for the moment she's doing it. Then she goes back it, and you repeat, and she goes back at it, and you repeat and she goes back at it, and you repeat and yet she goes back at it- and so on and on and eventually after 10 minutes of back and forth I decide to just bring her in as a subtle punishment. Don't think that works either.


The only thing that has ever worked 100% right on the dot is when she's doing something she's not supposed to I make a sudden random loudish noise like the SHH and then it startles her and she stops doing whatever bad thing she was doing-- but that also only works if the thing she is trying to get at isnt that tempting or its within circumstance.

The whole reward when she does something positive or stops what she is doing doesn't really work that well.

Why? because the treat isnt that high value- and even if its people food shes still picky about people food.

If she does see something she really want it might work-- or sometimes she will try to get at it by jumping at you (or your hand) and even if you dont give it to her (which I dont unless she does what I tell her to do) she will lose interest- or if it's that you're trying to get her to stop doing something-- the moment you give it to her, she will go back to doing it again, and even if you offer more treats she will just go back to you for the treat, and then go back to doing what it was that she was getting at-- over and over again. I am always watching her, the thing I try to do is to prevent her from even getting close to things. But sometimes it doesnt always work...

I want to be able to leave her 100% unleashed inside the house without her eating junk off the floor like lint... We were doing laundry, and I was cleaning the lint out of the dryer vent (it has a little lint catcher) and a piece of it fell off to the floor and she immediately tried to get at it. She started chewing it and I told her to drop it and the little stinker ignored me purposely.

The moment I get slightly annoyed and I show it emotionally she stops what she is doing. Though I don't think a relationship with any living being should be formed around that.


She'll always be my little special girl but I wished she was better behaved and less of a brat sometimes.

Still she seems to trust me the most, and submits to me a lot of the times. She's met other people and she doesnt trust them. She lingers behind me, and she barked/growled at my niece. (the niece is 2)


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I just wished she understood that the things I am trying to teach her is for her own well being... She isn't even hungry most of the times.. She barely touches her food most of the times unless its later during the day or if the other dog is getting near it.

[Lovetodream88]

I wouldn't do the collar. If she came from a situation where she was a stray she esintually is like a puppy and all this is new to her. If took my puppies till almost a year before they stopped getting things and putting them in their mouth. Give it time and just keep working on it. A collar would be negative reinforcement training and it's just not as effective. My rescue Penny is almost seeming younger then she really is because apparently she was never exposed to anything so it's taking a lot of patients. The thing about bones is when they last a long time they are generally going to be hard and potiemtually break teeth. Antlers and bully sticks were two things my vet dentist specified as to hard and could break teeth. One inssue with hard stuff also is it can leave microscopic groves in the teeth and that allowed more bacteria to grow in the groves. All of mine love the edible and non edible Nylabones. My girl has broken a tooth on a bully stick and it cost me around $600 for an emergency extraction. That is why I stay away from hard bones.

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

I wouldn't do the collar. If she came from a situation where she was a stray she esintually is like a puppy and all this is new to her. If took my puppies till almost a year before they stopped getting things and putting them in their mouth. Give it time and just keep working on it. A collar would be negative reinforcement training and it's just not as effective. My rescue Penny is almost seeming younger then she really is because apparently she was never exposed to anything so it's taking a lot of patients. The thing about bones is when they last a long time they are generally going to be hard and potiemtually break teeth. Antlers and bully sticks were two things my vet dentist specified as to hard and could break teeth. One inssue with hard stuff also is it can leave microscopic groves in the teeth and that allowed more bacteria to grow in the groves. All of mine love the edible and non edible Nylabones. My girl has broken a tooth on a bully stick and it cost me around $600 for an emergency extraction. That is why I stay away from hard bones.

I just want to keep her safe, she's just being counterproductive on that. But i guess patience trumps all.

Anywho, how long does the nylabones last her?

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by FlyingNimbus

I just want to keep her safe, she's just being counterproductive on that. But i guess patience trumps all.

Anywho, how long does the nylabones last her?

Edible ones about 20 minutes and non edible last a long time.

[Jkpal]

As for a gate, you might pick up plastic lattice. You can get sheets in various sizes, it's easy to cut/saw and you can use molly bolts or some such to keep in place. I always have plastic lattice as it serves a variety of purposes and is easy to work with...You have a determined, willful little babe and though she probably tests your patience, I'll bet she makes you laugh a lot!!

[gracielove]

When Gracie was younger she was wild about chewing. I would try to keep things out of her reach but when no one was watching she would knock over trash baskets and get into closets to find things to chew on. Every store that sells pet products has tons of rawhide but few healthy chewables.

We don't have a butcher near by to get the right kind of real bones for her to chew so we went with bully sticks from Best Bully Sticks . com. I buy a half dozen of them whenever they have a sale. We get the 12" long sticks. The first time she got one she went nuts chewing on it I finally took it away after a few hours because I figured she needed to rest her jaws! Having the bully sticks around solved some issues we had been having.
She used to get kind of hyper when we would have guests. Once she had her sticks she would get her one and sit there and chew rather than bother people. She stopped stealing things and only chewed on her stick. What a relief! We take them away from here when they are about 3" to 4" long so there is no choking hazard.

We tried other brands of bully sticks but found some of them to be too soft. They are gone way too fast when they are soft and can cause stomach upset. It takes her a couple of weeks to chew a regular width 12" bully stick down. Now that she is almost 7 she doesn't have as strong of a desire to chew but she still needs it when she is stressed about something. It seems to be soothing for her. She has very clean teeth. Has never had a problem with them. I am so glad we found them.

Dogs have a natural instinct to chew. If the owner doesn't satisfy that desire with something healthy they will find something to chew that is bad for them and the owner.

Sounds like your dog found something it enjoys. My only advise is to try to be nearby whenever your dog is chewing. Choking is is a slight possibility whenever they chew on a bone or stick of any kind.

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by Jkpal

As for a gate, you might pick up plastic lattice. You can get sheets in various sizes, it's easy to cut/saw and you can use molly bolts or some such to keep in place. I always have plastic lattice as it serves a variety of purposes and is easy to work with...You have a determined, willful little babe and though she probably tests your patience, I'll bet she makes you laugh a lot!!

She does test our patience a lot. We love her, though sometimes we want to yell at her when she does something incredibly dangerous we always "go easy" on her, as we know she's not used to things...

The lattice would be a good idea but she can climb those-- probably... If it has gaps in them she can climb them. I guess I could cover the lattice with some cardboard or something sturdy.

She's being picky with her food again... Today she left most of it and I had to do that thing where I give her food to the other dog (while holding her back with her leash) , she gets jealous and barks like crazy... after the other dog eating a few mouth fulls, I give it back to her to see if she gets the idea... she starts eating but does it slowly - like usual.


She has no problem eating rocks, twigs, lint, trying to rip up the carpet, etc but wont eat her food without protesting... I already tried giving her my mom's dogs food to see if she likes it-- she doesn't....

I tried finding the powdered additive, not sure but i couldnt find it.


I could buy the canned stuff and crush the kibble like someone else recommended... but thats annoying as well.....


I could make her home cooked meals, but really that's just being spoiled. I wouldn't mind doing those occasionally as a treat, but not every day. Mostly because you need to add vitamins and stuff and its not something you do right off the bat. Plus, I hate being wasteful.


My sibling again once suggest leaving the food there for 10-15minutes and at most an hour. IF she doesn't eat it - then I remove it, throw it out and try again the next day. But I am on the fence. It's what I ended up doing today, whatever she didnt eat I threw it out. Yet she begged for other food, which I refused to give her any.

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by gracielove

When Gracie was younger she was wild about chewing. I would try to keep things out of her reach but when no one was watching she would knock over trash baskets and get into closets to find things to chew on. Every store that sells pet products has tons of rawhide but few healthy chewables.

We don't have a butcher near by to get the right kind of real bones for her to chew so we went with bully sticks from Best Bully Sticks . com. I buy a half dozen of them whenever they have a sale. We get the 12" long sticks. The first time she got one she went nuts chewing on it I finally took it away after a few hours because I figured she needed to rest her jaws! Having the bully sticks around solved some issues we had been having.
She used to get kind of hyper when we would have guests. Once she had her sticks she would get her one and sit there and chew rather than bother people. She stopped stealing things and only chewed on her stick. What a relief! We take them away from here when they are about 3" to 4" long so there is no choking hazard.

We tried other brands of bully sticks but found some of them to be too soft. They are gone way too fast when they are soft and can cause stomach upset. It takes her a couple of weeks to chew a regular width 12" bully stick down. Now that she is almost 7 she doesn't have as strong of a desire to chew but she still needs it when she is stressed about something. It seems to be soothing for her. She has very clean teeth. Has never had a problem with them. I am so glad we found them.

Dogs have a natural instinct to chew. If the owner doesn't satisfy that desire with something healthy they will find something to chew that is bad for them and the owner.

Sounds like your dog found something it enjoys. My only advise is to try to be nearby whenever your dog is chewing. Choking is is a slight possibility whenever they chew on a bone or stick of any kind.

I originally thought about bully sticks-- but the idea that it's a bull penis I will not buy it even if she begged for it-- even if I was told it was the greatest thing out there. It's just gross, she's a licker I don't want to be licked with a penis tongue.... I almost threw up when I found out, because I've seen dogs chewing on that thing.... It's just soo nasty.... I will give her anything -- but those. Just can't.



I am still looking for other chews, I am going to try the nylabones edible and non-edibles. As always, I keep her near me no more than 3-4 feet from me and I am always watching when she chews. If she goes too strong on it I remove it from her and give it back 5 minutes later.


I feel like I need to excersice her a bit more as well, but walking I can only do for 30minutes now because of a personal bladder issue, so I'd have to be back within 30minutes and then I could take it back out for another 30, and so on.


Too bad I can't hold it longer. I mean I can sometimes... just the movement is what makes me go more often as well.

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

Edible ones about 20 minutes and non edible last a long time.

Okay, Ill see if I can get a pack of them to see if she will even bother with them... Getting her to even like something is a challenge. The other day, my mom got her some other chews I think CET or something and she would not touch them... Treated them like it had the plague or something...