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Old 04-25-2017, 05:27 PM   #91
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She's here!

We picked her up from the airport today and she's a complete doll. She's so sweet and friendly and has been running around playing all day. Her trip over was totally fine and I have to say that although it's been nerve wracking, getting a puppy from Korea has actually been a really great process and the shop we got her from has been incredibly helpful. We took her outside right after we picked her up and the first thing she did was poop, then after we went home she pooped outside again. I'm really surprised she's already mostly potty trained, it's so helpful. She went potty on a potty pad indoors and we bought her a little grass potty pad as well. We don't have a name for her yet, my boyfriend is still deciding what to call her. She spent about an hour running around the yard today and playing fetch with her mini tennis balls and then she took a nice long nap.

I'm probably going to stop visiting this site since there's a lot of nasty people on here (^ like the person commenting above). But, to all the nice people that offered advice and sent me links to breeders and clothing makers, etc. THANK YOU! I appreciate your help and feel free to message me anytime you'd like to know how she's doing.
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Your baby is gorgeous! It would be a shame if you stopped coming here. There will always be people who disagree with each other here. I have seen heated discussions over many topics. I may get some heat for this but, IMO, there is no perfect playbook to raise our furbabies. It's OK if we feed them different foods. It's OK if we train them differently. It's OK to use different medicines. But I guarantee you that every person on this board loves their babies beyond description. That is why you see the passion you see here. This site is cornucopia of knowledge that has helped me many times. I would love to see pics of your baby as she grows up. There is nothing cuter on God's green earth than a yorkie puppy! Whatever you decide to do good luck!
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She's here!

We picked her up from the airport today and she's a complete doll. She's so sweet and friendly and has been running around playing all day. Her trip over was totally fine and I have to say that although it's been nerve wracking, getting a puppy from Korea has actually been a really great process and the shop we got her from has been incredibly helpful. We took her outside right after we picked her up and the first thing she did was poop, then after we went home she pooped outside again. I'm really surprised she's already mostly potty trained, it's so helpful. She went potty on a potty pad indoors and we bought her a little grass potty pad as well. We don't have a name for her yet, my boyfriend is still deciding what to call her. She spent about an hour running around the yard today and playing fetch with her mini tennis balls and then she took a nice long nap.

I'm probably going to stop visiting this site since there's a lot of nasty people on here (^ like the person commenting above). But, to all the nice people that offered advice and sent me links to breeders and clothing makers, etc. THANK YOU! I appreciate your help and feel free to message me anytime you'd like to know how she's doing.
I apologize if that is how you perceived me as; but I can assure you my intentions weren't as so. I have nothing against you personally(don't really know you); just offered advice like the rest of us. You are more than welcome to take or leave any advice on here.

It's really up to you what happens. I am glad your dog came in healthy as that's all that really matters. Good luck with your new dog and all.
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Old 04-25-2017, 07:34 PM   #94
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She's here!

We picked her up from the airport today and she's a complete doll. She's so sweet and friendly and has been running around playing all day. Her trip over was totally fine and I have to say that although it's been nerve wracking, getting a puppy from Korea has actually been a really great process and the shop we got her from has been incredibly helpful. We took her outside right after we picked her up and the first thing she did was poop, then after we went home she pooped outside again. I'm really surprised she's already mostly potty trained, it's so helpful. She went potty on a potty pad indoors and we bought her a little grass potty pad as well. We don't have a name for her yet, my boyfriend is still deciding what to call her. She spent about an hour running around the yard today and playing fetch with her mini tennis balls and then she took a nice long nap.

I'm probably going to stop visiting this site since there's a lot of nasty people on here (^ like the person commenting above). But, to all the nice people that offered advice and sent me links to breeders and clothing makers, etc. THANK YOU! I appreciate your help and feel free to message me anytime you'd like to know how she's doing.
I noticed you said shop which would confirm your puppy came from a puppy mill. I wish you luck.
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Truly we wish you nothing but the best for you and your pup!
Most of us would love to see her grow up!
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Most of us would love to see her grow up!

I would too! She's adorable! I love the sleeping pic!
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Your baby is gorgeous! It would be a shame if you stopped coming here. There will always be people who disagree with each other here. I have seen heated discussions over many topics. I may get some heat for this but, IMO, there is no perfect playbook to raise our furbabies. It's OK if we feed them different foods. It's OK if we train them differently. It's OK to use different medicines. But I guarantee you that every person on this board loves their babies beyond description. That is why you see the passion you see here. This site is cornucopia of knowledge that has helped me many times. I would love to see pics of your baby as she grows up. There is nothing cuter on God's green earth than a yorkie puppy! Whatever you decide to do good luck!
this is the best post ever.. i once joined this forum & left over how "rude" & opinionated I perceived some posters to be...you summed it up perfectly!! Peace to all and a happy fur filled day!!!
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Why leave? Anyone who opposed your method of using a Korean puppy mill had their comments deleted and you are championed as a hero by some of the more knowledgeable members who know better and the less educated who rally behind you like soldiers of a puppy mill horde.

There's no need to leave because people like me who are passionate about advocating AGAINST exactly what you did will leave, instead.

Congrats, I hope the dog is healthy and I hope you educate yourself so you don't contribute to this sick practice with a future pup that you only wanted because it was promised to be freakishly small.

I do not agree with what you did and never will and refuse to conform to it to be nice. If the truth hurts your feelings, think long and hard why that may be.

As for me, I've donated to Yorkie Talk so I hope it continues in the spirit of education and not enablement. My funding will go to other sites and organizations which uphold their values despite necessary confrontation which comes along with the responsibility to educate and do not condone this nonsense against all advice and common sense.

I'm disappointed beyond words at the attitudes of some on here and refuse to be apart of it..again, good luck to the PUPPY only. It deserves that much.
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Why leave? Anyone who opposed your method of using a Korean puppy mill had their comments deleted and you are championed as a hero by some of the more knowledgeable members who know better and the less educated who rally behind you like soldiers of a puppy mill horde.

There's no need to leave because people like me who are passionate about advocating AGAINST exactly what you did will leave, instead.

Congrats, I hope the dog is healthy and I hope you educate yourself so you don't contribute to this sick practice with a future pup that you only wanted because it was promised to be freakishly small.

I do not agree with what you did and never will and refuse to conform to it to be nice. If the truth hurts your feelings, think long and hard why that may be.

As for me, I've donated to Yorkie Talk so I hope it continues in the spirit of education and not enablement. My funding will go to other sites and organizations which uphold their values despite necessary confrontation which comes along with the responsibility to educate and do not condone this nonsense against all advice and common sense.

I'm disappointed beyond words at the attitudes of some on here and refuse to be apart of it..again, good luck to the PUPPY only. It deserves that much.
No disrespect meant but I disagree. People were either trying to be nice as to not cause confrontation, and majority of us spoke against it. Should she not follow our advice against it, is completely on her if ever comes a time they find some serious illness. She went on to buy a dog that will most likely at some point in its life suffer the consequences of being born to a bad breeder whom she decided to line their pockets with dough- without questioning much or properly thinking it through.

She is who she is. Any insult to her will just turn off other potential new owners into seeking advice from a less than reliable source.
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Why leave? Anyone who opposed your method of using a Korean puppy mill had their comments deleted and you are championed as a hero by some of the more knowledgeable members who know better and the less educated who rally behind you like soldiers of a puppy mill horde.

There's no need to leave because people like me who are passionate about advocating AGAINST exactly what you did will leave, instead.

Congrats, I hope the dog is healthy and I hope you educate yourself so you don't contribute to this sick practice with a future pup that you only wanted because it was promised to be freakishly small.

I do not agree with what you did and never will and refuse to conform to it to be nice. If the truth hurts your feelings, think long and hard why that may be.

As for me, I've donated to Yorkie Talk so I hope it continues in the spirit of education and not enablement. My funding will go to other sites and organizations which uphold their values despite necessary confrontation which comes along with the responsibility to educate and do not condone this nonsense against all advice and common sense.

I'm disappointed beyond words at the attitudes of some on here and refuse to be apart of it..again, good luck to the PUPPY only. It deserves that much.
I'm a bit confused..the hostile attitude seems to be laced through out this post with a veiled threat to remove funding to the site..most of the other posts were expressing opinion and concern over the situation without hostility..my 2 cents respect begets respect even when 2 people disagree (even on passionate issues) blessings this weekend to the OP I hope your baby is doing well with the transition.
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Why leave? Anyone who opposed your method of using a Korean puppy mill had their comments deleted and you are championed as a hero by some of the more knowledgeable members who know better and the less educated who rally behind you like soldiers of a puppy mill horde.

There's no need to leave because people like me who are passionate about advocating AGAINST exactly what you did will leave, instead.

Congrats, I hope the dog is healthy and I hope you educate yourself so you don't contribute to this sick practice with a future pup that you only wanted because it was promised to be freakishly small.

I do not agree with what you did and never will and refuse to conform to it to be nice. If the truth hurts your feelings, think long and hard why that may be.

As for me, I've donated to Yorkie Talk so I hope it continues in the spirit of education and not enablement. My funding will go to other sites and organizations which uphold their values despite necessary confrontation which comes along with the responsibility to educate and do not condone this nonsense against all advice and common sense.

I'm disappointed beyond words at the attitudes of some on here and refuse to be apart of it..again, good luck to the PUPPY only. It deserves that much.

Sir Teddykins, I'm very happy you were welcoming. Your advice helped, and I will FOREVER love you for it.


That being said: Just because I have surveyed the situation for what it was, a gray area, doesn't make me a "puppy mill horde."

Your passion, while appreciated, will now be forever looked at by no less than 45% of the people looking at this thread as a weapon. From there YOU will undo ANY good you have apparently been trying to do. You've insulted any one trying to go for a gray area. Just because you think that saying something is better, it doesn't make it so. In College, my communications courses taught me that MOST people think of the world in their own viewpoints. They believe every single person thinks who they do. I never understood that, but I do now. Not everyone has a people pleasing gene in them. I do. I admit that. Thank G-d I do, because I can see every one and find good in all subjects. MY baby girl came from a man who will probably end up a puppy mill. I am forever grateful, despite any opinions, that I went on my gut instinct. I adore her, and she pulled me out of a deep depression. Her personality is so amazing that her puppy daycare writes me every few months to gush about her and tell me that her staff misses her. She's sweet and smart. Gentle and kind.

She comes from a background that people "would" have passed over. My own daughter begged me to buy the poodle. I wouldn't. I couldn't. She owned me body and soul from the very second she looked at me with that look only another yorkie lover could understand.

While my next yorkie will come from a better situation, thanks to this site, it doesn't make me any less resolute. she needed love. We needed each other.
Your stats can't possibly refute that these guys just want love. That if someone buys from a backwoods korean mill doesn't mean they deserve derision. Her partner was buying this puppy. She did the best she could, and any one saying a spouse is gaslighting or mentally abusing/manipulating is trying to buy into the hype. I know MY spouse. He's a good man, but if he's made up his mind, which is so rare, I know not to intervene, and the OP is probably in that boat. Again, it doesn't mean she needs any nasty remarks. She tried, she listened.

And now any one saying she's doing well is lumped into nasty remarks. I like you, I admire you and, as stated before, will be forever grateful for your help. I, however, am very upset at being called a "puppy mill horde enabler." You have done the very opposite of what you've strove to do. I get that this will just be met with snorts and more remarks, but, JUST LIKE YOU, my feelings are MY feelings.

Please, find it in your heart to tone this down, or any one that's looking will take your words in a negative light. You are better than this. I am hoping that my words will sink in. This is despite the fact that any one that tried to be nice was met with nothing but derision and scorn.
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She's here!

We picked her up from the airport today and she's a complete doll. She's so sweet and friendly and has been running around playing all day. Her trip over was totally fine and I have to say that although it's been nerve wracking, getting a puppy from Korea has actually been a really great process and the shop we got her from has been incredibly helpful. We took her outside right after we picked her up and the first thing she did was poop, then after we went home she pooped outside again. I'm really surprised she's already mostly potty trained, it's so helpful. She went potty on a potty pad indoors and we bought her a little grass potty pad as well. We don't have a name for her yet, my boyfriend is still deciding what to call her. She spent about an hour running around the yard today and playing fetch with her mini tennis balls and then she took a nice long nap.

I'm probably going to stop visiting this site since there's a lot of nasty people on here (^ like the person commenting above). But, to all the nice people that offered advice and sent me links to breeders and clothing makers, etc. THANK YOU! I appreciate your help and feel free to message me anytime you'd like to know how she's doing.
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It feels like some comments might be needed to avoid any additional potential conflict regarding this thread. I'll try to keep this short and on point.

In every community, we should really strive to tolerate as many differences as possible...every single one of us is so vastly different from the other. It's important that we at least try to have calm, respectful, open communication with those in agreement with us, as well as with those who stand for everything we are not. It's not easy; we all know that.

But the only real way toward change or growth, really, is thru learning and communication. Without that, we're going nowhere.

It's 100% okay to post here, anywhere here, and say "I vehemently disagree with everything you're doing, everything you're about" -- those feelings are totally okay. One should absolutely stand up for what they believe in here (as long as the general YT rules are followed)! Even more so because we're talking about living, breathing, precious creatures here at YT.

This board is owned by Admin, and the spirit of this board has *always* been to allow its members to be as open as possible. To be able to post almost anything (within reason/rules) and find some sort of discussion or guidance here from other members, even on the most sensitive subjects. That Admin has always pushed for maintaining that kind of openness and tolerance should speak volumes for the kind of integrity that is behind everything this board strives to be.

Members may not always agree with the decisions made here. Members may get angry as heck. Members may also say things in the heat of the moment (hi self! ). It's all okay, really. This is a community...there will be differences, there will be conflict, there will be growth, there will be change, there will be things that stay the same.

The bottom line is really: let's all work harder to accept where each of is at in life. We are where we are! Let's try to lift each other up, rather than tear each other down. Let's just try harder to tolerate our differences, even when those differences make us want tear our hair out !

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In every community, we should really strive to tolerate as many differences as possible...every single one of us is so vastly different from the other. It's important that we at least try to have calm, respectful, open communication with those in agreement with us, as well as with those who stand for everything we are not. It's not easy; we all know that.

But the only real way toward change or growth, really, is thru learning and communication. Without that, we're going nowhere.

It's 100% okay to post here, anywhere here, and say "I vehemently disagree with everything you're doing, everything you're about" -- those feelings are totally okay. One should absolutely stand up for what they believe in here (as long as the general YT rules are followed)! Even more so because we're talking about living, breathing, precious creatures here at YT.

This board is owned by Admin, and the spirit of this board has *always* been to allow its members to be as open as possible. To be able to post almost anything (within reason/rules) and find some sort of discussion or guidance here from other members, even on the most sensitive subjects. That Admin has always pushed for maintaining that kind of openness and tolerance should speak volumes for the kind of integrity that is behind everything this board strives to be.

Members may not always agree with the decisions made here. Members may get angry as heck. Members may also say things in the heat of the moment (hi self! ). It's all okay, really. This is a community...there will be differences, there will be conflict, there will be growth, there will be change, there will be things that stay the same.

The bottom line is really: let's all work harder to accept where each of is at in life. We are where we are! Let's try to lift each other up, rather than tear each other down. Let's just try harder to tolerate our differences, even when those differences make us want tear our hair out !

Deep breaths! Carry on !
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Thank you, Ann, for your beautiful, level head as always.

Regarding opinions regarding my opinion and with all due respect, I'm not interested. I do not require external validation of my opinions which probably sounds harsh and arrogant in type but it's not meant to be as it's merely fact.

Under normal circumstances and as has previously been demonstrated, I consider myself an extremely confident but fair and objective person. However, as is probably glaringly apparent, I am upset and angry that members have requested pics etc. of this puppy all the while minimizing the fact that it has potentially come from an overseas puppy mill in an effort to appease a misguided humans feelings. Further to that, I am disappointed that more people have not come on here to state, explicitly, why puppy mills should not be supported by ANYONE. I do not agree with this method for obtaining Yorkshire Terriers or any other animal and no amount of persuasion will change that stance. In reality, I believe this website should be a beacon of education as this post will no doubt be stored in archives at some point and it would be a shame if it was used as justification by others to obtain puppies using dubious methods on the basis that some people have expressed that it's ok when it absolutely is not. Hence, my comment made regarding donations etc.

As I stated before, I wish the puppy luck and hope that no one else chooses this method for obtaining puppies or any other animal under the impression that it is condoned. That is all I have to say - thank you!
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