@gemy he walks with me daily around the block and plays with me around the house quite often.. does that make his posture worse/better or something? will exercising him more help him.. or make things worse..? :/

and um.. sickle hocked? where in the vid do you see that? trying to find it but i can't see it.. he was trying to look down at other dogs and kids running around, and maybe that's why his legs were like that.. lol not sure.

but yeah... i wanted to do all the research i can before i make my decision.. i figured YT was the best place to ask. lol :)

do you think it'd be better to just get him neutered and get him a half sister instead of a gf? i say half sister since i already have a non-refundable deposit with the same breeder for a next girl, but she told me i could get another girl(non-related) in the future if i decide to get kupo fulll akc and get him a gf instead...

lgol but when i've contacted the breeder couple days ago, she says she she's not sure about the show, but he will "most defintely be a breeding quality".

This statement kind of confuses me. If your breeder is not sure if he is show quality, why would s/he think he was breeding quality? The main reason most folks breed their Yorkies is to get the perfect Yorkie per the standards for the breed (can find the breed standards on the YTCA site) and to always improve the breed. These standards are what Gemy is referring to in her critique.

There are many darling and cute Yorkies, but they are not all breeding quality. Doesn't mean they aren't loved and loving and delightful pups. Just may mean they are not close enough to the standard for the breed and would therefore not be show quality.

That being said, I have had a Yorkie that was nice, but not show quality and one that was show quality. The health and confirmation difference was evident. I loved them both dearly, but spend a ton of $$$ on the one due to health issues and almost no money other than dental school on the show quality one.

So get familiar with what the standard for the breed is. Look on YTCA (Yorkieshire Terrier Club of America site) and go to some Yorkie dog shows.

I just volunteered at the most recent national Yorkie Roving show at the Health Clinic and was amazed at how many of the show dogs did not pass the patella test and were advised not to breed due to passing on that flaw.

Good luck with your breeding education. I applaud your desire to ask and learn.

BTW your pup is a cutie!!

@yorkiemini i'm not sure why she said that.. i guess its cuz she thought he was a good quality pup since his dad was champ sired and whatnot... i mean kupo is def cute though. i'm in love with him.

i think i had a panic/anxiety attack when i found about his back.. i thought something was gonna be wrong and was watching him all day... especially his back... T_T; i injured my back when i was 18 due to lifting 400lbs dead weight patient, since nobody wanted to help.. (they all got fired for neglecting patient in the end) and i thought kupo was dealing with the same problem.. T_T;

so.. to make sure he's all healthy and well.. like patella and whatnot.. what tests should i go to my vet for and when? cuz whenever i go see a vet, kupo gets commented on how healthy and happy he is.

and ty :) i'm really trying to learn and see what's really best for kupo and his maybe-future babies. i don't want anything to go wrong...

Thanks for the heads up on the pass word, I know nothing of breeding, 4 females in the past were were pets only, all beautiful girls with sweet personalities, the thought of breeding them horrified me. Besides I would have kept the litter, I would trust no one to care for them as I did. Your boy is simply adorable. Good luck in your decision to breed or not.

@matese no problem :) and thank you! i was also wondering who i'd give the puppies to if he had a large litter (just thining ahead)

i know my mom for one since her favorite dog is yorkie, and she def. wants one.. but i dont think i can trust random ppl to take care of the puppies... especially since i bond very very easily... x_x;

I'll try to find the links, but your regular vet should be able to do a blood panel for you which checks liver function(BAT). Just contact your vet and ask about what the test entails. OFA and Eye Cerf have to be performed by corresponding specialists if I'm not mistaken.

My plan for whelping was always to keep a puppy lol. I want to track growth and development and the best way to do that imo is to keep one. My husband's military and has some of his soldier's families interested, but my potential contract is a beast to say the least hehehe. I'll try to find those links...

Here ya go!
 

Canine Health Information Center: CHIC Information


Note the tests which are marked as optional

@colesmommy01 oh i forgot you were in military family. lol me too. i'm sure i can find some who wants to, since my mom and dad's acquaintances loves animals.. but since they move so much, i know some who gives their pets away, and i hate that.

but when should i start on getting his tests done? i know which tests now, and how often but not sure when to start. and thank you again for helping me :)

oh i saw that website while back. lol even linked to this post earlier. haha

Must have missed where you linked lol. I would start the tests at 6 months. The BAT can be done and should be any way to check Kupo's liver function. I'm sure your health guarantee covers genetic disorders which from my understanding is what a liver shunt is. OFA tests have to be done at 1 years of age at least.

Yes plenty of families in the military would looooove a yorkie, but you'd have to be especially careful because of relocation. One of my husband's soldiers has rehomed 6 :eek: animals! I'm not sure if it's due to relocation or what, but when the wife asked me if she could have a pup if I breed my husband said my face looked like I was about to call her everything but her govt name.

To certify with offa hips elbows and knees are done at 2yrs old.


Eyes I like to certify by 2yrs old and as close to before breeding as possible. the foundation recommends annually but I usually do every 2yrs.


I do thyroid function test as per offa Usually around 18mths old or so


Heart and hearing I do between 18 -24 mths


THe genetic tests for hyperuricosuria are done when puppies are very young.

@colesmommy01 6 months? ok i'll call my vet and ask about it when the time comes.. lol thank you for the information :)

before i got kupo, i was considering getting a samoyed (one of my favorite dogs) when i was filling out the questionnaire breeder inquired me to, she told me that she doesn't wanted to sell me a pup since i'm in military family... and that a lot of military families tend to disown their dogs... i insured her that i wasn't like that.. but i understand where she comes from.. :/ i do see this a lot and it seriously pisses me off.. why get a pet... and make them your family member and just throw them away just cuz of couple hundred of dollars for their flight or whatever? so irresponsible..

my parents are currently in hawaii right now, and live in base housing.. and there are so many stray cats running around just cuz of those kind of people.. my parents trap and neuter them and feeds them every night... i think its about 40+ cats that they take care of so far... its so sad to see them starving to death...

i saw one lady, who really pissed me off, got one of her dog to actually kill the cat for fun, and i told her off.. called mp on her, but some how... the base actually want to get rid of the cat and placed a rule that you can't even feed the cat... -_-; so she got off easy..

@gemy thank you for that info! saving it to my phone :)

The OFA website recommends testing at 12 months(1 year) minimun for eyes and thyroids at which they'd publish results. You recommend 2 years of age, is this because breeding shouldn't take place before 2 and/or because the dog/bitch is still developing and the test wouldn't give the most accurate results?

Not really. As my dogs get full blood work - if there was something unusual I would do an expanded T4 panel for thyroid if indicated. For eyes - again if the general vet noticed something odd or unusual I would book in for a specialist exam.


Breeding for many clubs stipulate 2 conditions - 18 months old or older and after their second heat. I like to cluster many tests around the 2yr old mark so that I am good to go with the first heat after offa on hips elbows and knees.


Eyes are a concern of mine as my boy tested okay at 1yr 3yr then at 5yr and 3/4 a cataract small was diagnosed! Urgha. nBefore 6 yrs old the opthamologists say this is a juvenile cataract and therefor hereditary.

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Originally Posted by Deviruchi (Post 4572784) @gemy he walks with me daily around the block and plays with me around the house quite often.. does that make his posture worse/better or something? will exercising him more help him.. or make things worse..? :/

Around the block sounds like a 10minute walk - and no that is not enough exercise. Proper exercise which includes at least 30 minutes of walking a day will only serve to strengthen his muscles.


The hock joint is found on your dogs back legs. go up from the paw and the first outcropping of bone you feel is the hock joint. This joint should extend when the dog pushes back with his rear leg and flex when the dog moves the back foot forward. This gives a nice smooth gait particularly at the trot.
Now if you look at the vid you attached you see your dog bounces up n down with no visible extension of the hock joint. Sickle hocked. A major fault. Again I speak to the standard for the YT well actually 99% of standards do not want sickle hocked dogs. Likely will not give a health problem but this is a structural defect.

@gemy whenever i walk him, its about 25-30 min per session. and usually we do it 2-3x a day :)

and as for the sickle hock thing you pointed out.. do you think if i ask the vet about it, she'd know and see how he is? i mean.. she didn't even point out that his back was curved so i'm not sure if she'd know. lol.. thank you for explaining what it is, but i'm still not really getting it.. watched the vid like 5x now, focusing on his leg, but still not sure.. x_x;

on here, it says the one in the right is sickle hock, but when i'm looking at kupo, his leg doesn't look like that.. should i try to take another vid later and see? (i'm probably in denial.. lol)