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Selecting a 2nd Yorkie Well its turning out to be a real roller-coaster. In short I've got nowhere in selecting a companion for Crystal this past 5 week, for one reason or another! That's after seeing 5 pups. I am seeing a little girl on the weekend, from a reputable KC assured breeder who registers all her pups. This is a little girl who is 1 month and two days old, she weighs in at 5ozs. Is that small for a pup? her siblings are around or over a pound (boys) apparently.? Crystal was 22 weeks old when she came to us and now at 27 months weighs in at over 8lbs. We'd like a smaller dog anyway, (easier for me to lift one armed), but 5ozs seems tiny, even for these little folk. Breeder reckons she'll make between 4 and 5 pounds fully grown. |
She's only 5 oz? Wow! That's a really tiny pup. I'd be a bit afraid of having one that small and Rasta is less than 2.5 lbs full grown. The growth charts which give a guesstimate have your potential pup at less than 2 pounds/1 kg full grown. If the breeder says she'll be between 4-5 lbs then I'd probably go with her guesstimate, but keep in mind she may not make it to that weight. |
Wow, that is too tiny for me. My Gina weighed 12oz at 10 wks and that was small. She ended up weighing 9 lbs. wait a minute. Did you say she was a month and 2 weeks old? That would be 6 wks, which is too young to be removed from her mom. By the time she is 12 wks she should be a good weight. Good luck. |
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The Breeder is Kennel Club 'assured' (checked) and full pedigree and KC registration accompany the transaction. She wants to retain this tiny one for a further 6 weeks (10 weeks old), to ensure she's OK to leave mom after her final jabs, bearing in mind her diminutive size. |
Oh gosh Doc - I know that different countries do things differently. But with a wee one = I want the breeder to keep the pup until 2lbs at least. What ever that is in kilograms what .90 kg. And I thought England was all over to kilos etc. If you are prepared and ready for a tiney - which seems how she is tracking then okay - but also be prepared that there could be more health probs. |
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I am concerned about health problems through genetic interbreeding - but am assured this tiny is unusual for this breeder. A friend had a 3lber (girl) who lived till 15. However I'm aware now through YT of the problems that a small build is more likely to manifest and it does worry me, but it seems the genetic lottery is not mutually exclusive to small pups. I'm told my organic menu (cooked fresh daily), health checks, exercise, general love, play and care regime are what kept my little Jack Russell going until he was 16. Crystal gets exactly the same treatment now, and my friends mockingly reckon she eats better than they do! I always thought I'd grow wiser as my days got shorter. However I will probably lose my heart to this little one, therefore wrestling once more the ambivalence of impetuosity over pragmatism! |
Hi Doc! What ever you decide I am hoping for a healthy, happy pup. |
Hello Joyce thank you, I must try to let sensibility prevail on this choice. I spoke with a 'Crufts' Judge for the breed last evening. He thought this little one 'if' the weight was correct at 1 month would end up at a year about 3 and a half pounds. As he said 'small' and would need provision for acknowledgement of her stature i.e. a quiet home and environs. Definitely no young children or stairs perhaps, no overtly strenuous or long exercise regimes. Also may need feeding three to four times a day, a little and more often etc. I can tick all those boxes by the way. He gave me a few skeletal points to look out for, but did add that these 'tiny ones' do crop up within normal sized litters quite often and that as long as their needs are recognized, they can make out OK. He added that many today are snapped up by young women as fashion accessories. Once the fad fades, they are then deserted and left alone for 12 hours or more a day, where accidents and depression can prevail. I drew the impression they get very close to their humans, who understand their frailties and with whom they feel secure. |
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So glad that you are consulting the experts re: this. It may help to know that all of the above advice/opinion was mirrored by Teddy's vet. Teddy is small, at 4lbs, and I have been told that he requires more mental health care as a result (lucky for him that is my specialty)! Apparently, there is some correlation between YT size and neuroticism and separation anxiety - both of which Teddy displays to a large degree in comparison to the bigger Yorkies. Consequently, some exposure therapies and desensitization socialization techniques used successfully on bigger dogs result in extreme stress and anxiety for Teddy. It's good to have a vet which specializes in YTs because, otherwise, I could have ruined this boy! Good luck and happy you have found someone to consult re: your puppy search. The search is hard work but pays off! |
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I have 2 that are considered tiny by many. Not so much by me, as they have huge attitudes :D Sugar and Curri are both just below 4 pounds give or take. They vary between 3 3/4 pounds and 4 pounds. They do require more attention than any other dog I've had but I'm not sure that is size or personality or training (them of ME) dependent :rolleyes: We only feed twice a day since maturity with a snack before bed so that Curri doesn't get an upset tummy and vomit a bit of bile. I've noticed a lot of the smaller yorkies are afflicted with dental issues because of their tiny mouthes. I'm sure genetics also play a huge part in this. But other than a great dental routine and using caution and stairs/ ramps with furniture, they are a pretty hearty duo! Good luck on your decision ( it sounds as if it's already been made ;) ) |
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Apparently, she's a stand-out character already and I know from Crystal's skills how good they are at manipulating us! Goes with their intelligence I think and a good trade off for all the fun the 'attitude' gives most of the time as a positive value. I enjoy my times at my age, with my dog now as much as anything I do. I have a feeling about this little one somehow... |
Rin is just a little under the 4lb mark (6 years) and she came from an otherwise "standard" litter. 7lb mom and 6lb dad....she just happened to be the smallest.... Rin has always been the smartest, most playful and robust little girl, plus she is very "emotionally stable" and independent. No separation anxiety or nervousness at all. She is positively wonderful and generally healthy. However, she does have Grade 1 LP so we have to be careful with the jumping. This is difficult because she has no fear and loves to play chase. Also, the dental issues have already been fairly significant. Poor thing needs a cleaning every year and has already had several teeth pulled. My vet tells me this is common for tiny yorkies. Unfortunately, i was unable to train Rin to a toothbrush. So my advice: BE PREPARED TO BRUSH TEETH :D:D:D |
Oh! I hope no one got the impression that Teddy needs a straight jacket or psychiatric assistance..he's just high strung...lol Anyway, I'm sure you have a lot to think about right now so good luck and - remember - we like pics! |
More Developments 2 Attachment(s) Through a contact I've been connected to a reputable breeder with a little 'Parti' coated girl. She's just a year old and weighs 4 lbs. She's being spayed tomorrow, as her owner says she's too small to breed from? The ancestry (Sire) is from Hungary (google "zaid von el cassius dio") - to see his pedigree. She is also IBC 'German Biewer Club' registered. I'm not particularly looking for a Biewer, but her coat does looks wonderful, and the weight is very easy for me to handle. I also felt her little face looked very forlorn and that she could probably do with a lot of fun, playing and being naughty, which Crystal and her nutty Dad could certainly provide! |
She's adorable! At a year old, you don't have to guess about the coat development, weight etc. I wanted so badly to take Teddy's mom home with me when I was there to select a puppy .. haha. I don't know anything about Biewers or parti or anything like that but I think that pic you've posted of her is just gorgeous! 4lbs is still small but a good weight! |
She does have a sad little face. I'm sure if you get her she will be a happy little girl and her expression will show that. |
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She will be a very lucky little girl if she joins your family and no doubt very happy. One year old is still very much like a puppy. I have always had my dogs from the time they were puppies but Katie was three when she joined our family. She had been with her breeder, who is a small show hobby breeder, and she was raised in a home environment. Katie was a happy, confident, loved little girl when she came to us, and she adjusted so quickly to her new home. She is loved beyond measure, and we believe she is very happy being the center of our hearts and lives. I wish we were able to add another one for Katie's sake, since she was raised with many dogs, but we could not be happier than we are now with our precious little girl. Before Katie we had three female Yorkies who were within a year of each other, and that was wonderful! I'm sure you will love having two little girls to love, whether you choose the beautiful Biewer girl or the tiny little girl. |
Thank you, I suppose it all depends if she's had a happy life to date as to how her character is set presently. That said, my friends little girl 'Molly' (Crystals best pal), came from an empty former life and was quite withdrawn at first. Five months on, she's well and truly in charge of a doting Mom & Dad and her uncle Martin too! Love and affection is a balm for nearly all dogs, especially Yorks, who seem to hoover it up! |
She is beautiful, lol, and does have little sad face which I am sure if you decide to take her, that sad face will disappear. And like others have said, at a year old, there is no guess at what her weight will be, a year old baby is still very much a puppy. |
I think she is just beautiful and I love her coat! Hopefully she is not sad at all but if she is I know that would change if you decide to make her a part of your family. It doesn't take long for them to adapt to their new homes. My Silky, Rocket absolutely loves it here at my home. He gets to run like the wind instead of being crated all day. He is more than eager to come in for his afternoon nap after keeping my cats in check. He is supposed to be a foster but my husband says he's home. I will formally break the news to my Rescue Group soon but they have been telling me all along that I would end up keeping him. His former family who so easily gave him up after 3 yrs. have no idea what they are missing. Anyhow I say if she is healthy grab her before someone else does. She's a little doll! And she may be into politics more than you know especially if she has a little treat or shoe to chew on while she listens. |
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Doc she is only a year old - in your home under you and your wifes loving care she will come out of her shell (that is if she is in a shell) - but she will adjust very nicely. Which is not to say there might be some work to do on your part. You need to know a lot about the environment she was raised in. Is she leashed trained - outer potty trained - only indoor - obedience commands she knows. Is she dog friendly. A barker - a nipper/ Is she used to sleeping in her crate/kennel. |
1 Attachment(s) I spent an hour with this little girl today, she was in the company of 5 other Yorkies, all great fun to be with of course and all demanding attention. Mum & Dad were there too and her pedigree, like theirs is very impressive. She struggled to even get near to me at first, until her breeder assisted those little legs. 'Holly' really is tiny, but quite beautiful and she has completely captivated me. When it was time to leave she looked devastated and shrunk back into the sofa as the 'gang' descended upon me again. I got her for another cuddle before I left and received a huge kiss in parting, as I handed her back. As she was only spayed last Tuesday, I can't collect her until next Sunday (31st), when the stitches have been removed. I've never had such a small creature before, outside the Burmese Cats my late wife used to breed. In fact the tiny rib cage and spine took me back 30 years! I think I've now got a new and enduring role as bodyguard and all round guardian! So watchful care on the exercise regime, jumping off beds etc needs to be addressed! Lapdog, or constant companion? Either way tonight I feel very happy somehow. |
What a cute little face! Oh you are going to have a LOT of fun with her! |
Oh, Martin. She looks adorable! |
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I'll bet you are just beside yourself with joy! I know I would be! She is a doll and I love her name!!! I have a Chi named Holly! |
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I just couldn't get her Holly's presence out of my mind last night. Sometimes a subconscious serenity affirms the decision that somethings were meant to be... |
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