Originally Posted by Verbena (Post 4551580)

I looked into NutriScan. . . I did a little research about what others that have tried it said. There was a number of people said that it worked. This is on other forums and groups.

Just because it is new. Doesn't mean it doesn't work. Look at the facts . . . If it wasn't for moldly bread we would not have penicillin. And they thought he was nuts. . .Something that we were just told from a top ankle surgeon in the country. He told My DBF to try stem cell therapy for his ankle. . .now it is classified as experimental. A lot of doctors do not believe in it. . . But people are finding it is working for them. . . This doesn't mean it is a scam.

I don't blindly believe and follow everything my Dr and Vet says. . . That is why we have second opinions and experimental procedures. If I listened to the first Dr. I would not be walking today. . . Fact ! . . . I went to another Dr., though he didn't believe in alternative medicines and therapies, he had me try them and it worked . .

Just because you vet thinks is is a scam doesn't mean it is. . . There is a lot of vets that sell you on things that are not always better for your dog. They want to make money. I question my vet. I don't give Galen or the kitties all the shots they want me to give them. I am lucky. My Vet is not a pusher. He tells me what is really needed and what is not. And also he doesn't make me give them any shots I don't want. . .

Please don't assume things before knowing all the facts . . . Please open your minds up to new things . . . You might be surprised . . .


What it is worth . . Just my opinion !!

Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4551566)

I've been staying quiet but your statements are really bothering me.

1st off, if it was a scam, it would not have helped Turbo @ all & many other dogs that did get tested w/NutriScan.

Turbo is not suffering anymore. It was the best $280 I've spent. For you to say these things, you are also talking down to me & my decisions to help my pet. I won't even bring up what you said on my other thread. Insulting.

Originally Posted by Verbena (Post 4551587)

Actually Taylor. . . I researched Saliva testing. . . Your link is one persons opinion blog. . . There are many differnet opinions. Also the person said there was no research done. . Well there you are. Just because this vet did not do research. Doesn't mean it doesn't work. . . There is a lot of people that have tried it and it worked . There are too many close minded people in the field.

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4551605)

I do want to say my vet doesn't push crap. She gives me opinions and her opinions and when there was something unsure about she went in the back got me a bottle of water and went and looked it up. I trust my vet immensely. I told her I didn't want the Lyme vaccine no fight not argument just a simple ok. She gave me several options when dealing with Callie's IBD. She listens to me and takes time to explain stuff. My grandmother is leery of every single doctor and I have to tell you that's not a way to live. Obviously there are bad and evil people in everything that people are in but most doctors, vets and so on are there to help people and dogs. I worry more about the bigger names out there who get a taste of the money and get money hungry.

Originally Posted by Verbena (Post 4551587)

Actually Taylor. . . I researched Saliva testing. . . Your link is one persons opinion blog. . . There are many differnet opinions. Also the person said there was no research done. . Well there you are. Just because this vet did not do research. Doesn't mean it doesn't work. . . There is a lot of people that have tried it and it worked . There are too many close minded people in the field.

Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 4551609)

This is where I part ways. In my fifteen years of owning yorkies, I've left several vets and practices. I have known more than they do at times, felt pressured into tests or services at times, and even been subjected to disrespectful staff. It's my money, my dogs, and I'll do what I want when I want. It's not a distrust per se, in fact, I give every new vet a blank slate. But they are the ones that fall short and miss the mark. There are good and bad in every profession and sometimes it's the charming seemingly committed vet that is the true charlatan. Like any service or relationship, a critical eye means you are a smart consumer. Pseudoscience is an entirely different matter -- I will take a mediocre vet any day over some of these salespeople.

Originally Posted by Verbena (Post 4551590)

The same blog person doesn't believe in stem cell . . .

Originally Posted by gemy (Post 4551616)

This test is unproven... there is no scientific proof to back up this test - nor is there scientific proof to say it is useless. That is or what appears to be the fact of the matter.


Ascribing greed and deliberate bilking of the public to Dr Dodds because of this test is quite a leap.
No-one has any idea of her intentions when she released this test to the public - although I personally don't understand why she did that. I can speculate as I did earlier.


On another note testimonials and clinical experience while weak, does not mean there is no validity in saying I took this test - followed the results of said test - and got better.


The fact remains there is much more to learn about the human and canine body than is known right now - and there are many treatment practices that are developed based on clinical experience and best practices that have no science back up - because we don't have the scientific back up yet - but what is a doctor to do? they use their experience, judgement and the combined knowledge of their field. Or Not treat at all because there are not 1000 -peer reviewed studies to justify their course of treatment?


We have exhaustively made the point that there is no science to back this test up. So BUYER BEWARE.

Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 4551624)

I wouldn't be as bothered if the price point of the test was, say, $10 or $20. But $280???

Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 4551609)

This is where I part ways. In my fifteen years of owning yorkies, I've left several vets and practices. I have known more than they do at times, felt pressured into tests or services at times, and even been subjected to disrespectful staff. It's my money, my dogs, and I'll do what I want when I want. It's not a distrust per se, in fact, I give every new vet a blank slate. But they are the ones that fall short and miss the mark. There are good and bad in every profession and sometimes it's the charming seemingly committed vet that is the true charlatan. Like any service or relationship, a critical eye means you are a smart consumer. Pseudoscience is an entirely different matter -- I will take a mediocre vet any day over some of these salespeople.

Originally Posted by Verbena (Post 4551590)

The same blog person doesn't believe in stem cell . . .

Originally Posted by Verbena (Post 4551587)

Actually Taylor. . . I researched Saliva testing. . . Your link is one persons opinion blog. . . There are many differnet opinions. Also the person said there was no research done. . Well there you are. Just because this vet did not do research. Doesn't mean it doesn't work. . . There is a lot of people that have tried it and it worked . There are too many close minded people in the field.

Originally Posted by pstinard (Post 4551641)

The burden of proof is on the scientist who is making the claims to scientifically prove that their treatment works, using peer-reviewed research. Even Dr. Dodds admits that this hasn't been done yet, although she claims that such research is in the works. I'm not holding my breath on that one.

Her recommendation that the Nutriscan test be performed once a year at $280 a pop suggests that it is a moneymaking scam.