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10-22-2014, 10:25 AM | #1 |
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| What are your thoughts on natural rearing... Specifically the lack of vaccinating? Sheldon is due for some more puppy shots (I'm spacing them out at the very least because he is extremely low risk right now), and I'm unsure which ones I want to get. The last time he got what I believe is called an MLV of like five or six different vaccines (don't have the paper in front of me, unfortunately), and he was lethargic and lacked appetite for two-three days after. In my state, the only required vaccine is rabies, but I feel he should finish his parvo and distemper series. Any advice? If you minimally vaccinate, or don't at all, can you tell me why, what you do feel is important, and what you would NOT give? I feel no different about him then I did my kids...I know he needs SOME protection, but I think vaccines are way overdone. If you feel that they are all necessary on the schedule the vets given can you tell me why you believe so? Looking for both sides of the coin here. I have to go get my boys from school so I can't respond immediately, but thanks in advance for any replies |
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10-22-2014, 10:32 AM | #2 | |
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10-22-2014, 11:27 AM | #3 | |
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10-22-2014, 12:21 PM | #4 |
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| He needs to at least finish his puppy shots and boosters, space them out if you want, but get them. After that you can just get rabies and do titers for the rest. |
10-22-2014, 12:36 PM | #5 |
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| I think puppy shots and one year boosters are non negotiable after that is when you have the big decision to make. Except for the add on yearly ones like Lepto, Bordatella, and Lyme. I got DAP every three years until she has reached 7 and I have decided to no longer get that because I feel she is protected. Obviously you have to follow your laws on rabies. I also get Bordatella because she goes to get groomed and goes to lots of dog events and dog places and kennel cough can lead to some very serious problems. I also give Lepto because it is an issue in my area. Bordatella and Lepto are yearly. I used to give Lyme when I was in a high tick area but Callie only had one tick a year sense moving so we no longer do that one. DAP is good for 3 years at the minimum but I believe they are saying it only needs to be done every five years now. A lot of people will say to get titters done but all the research I have done on them say they are not reliable.
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10-22-2014, 03:56 PM | #6 |
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| You can have your vet get a single distemper vaccine and a single parvo vaccine, space them apart a few weeks. I would not give a 5in1. How many shots has he had so far? How old is he? Look up Jean Dodd and her protocol, very interesting reading. Vaccinations are important, but getting the 5-1 can be dangerous. If your vet doesn't have the single vaccines, call around. If you don't find a vet with them, try ordering them from Revival Animal Supplies online. Giving a vaccine is pretty easy.
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10-22-2014, 04:54 PM | #7 |
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| Zero vaccinations is very risky. Parvo is a huge threat. Distemper used to kill a very large percentage of puppies. It is vaccinations that put an end to that. If we stop vaccinating, distemper will return. Rabies vaccinations are required by law. I also believe in heartworm preventatives. Some critics of "natural rearing" contend that this is a bogus name used by breeders to cut corners/costs for their litters.
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10-22-2014, 04:58 PM | #8 | |
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10-22-2014, 10:44 PM | #9 |
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| I definitely believe in puppy vaccines. I've been through parvo with 2 litters and no dog should have to go through that. I do titers on my older dogs and have had no issues. You also have to consider that when you don't vaccinate your dog's you are putting others such as younger puppies and dogs who may be vaccinated but haven't had time to fully develope their own antibodies and older possibly immune compromised dogs at risk. If your dog can potentially contract and pass on a disease, I believe that just like people who don't vaccinate their kids you have an obligation to keep your dog away from others. For your dog's sake and the protection of others. |
10-23-2014, 03:18 AM | #10 | |
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He has only had the first series (which was the five in one) because I am spacing them, and because he doesn't go anywhere high risk at this point. The worst place he's been was the vets office he was vaccinated at. Last edited by BobbiB; 10-23-2014 at 03:19 AM. | |
10-23-2014, 03:43 AM | #11 |
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| If your vet knows your dog didn't do real well after last shots they could give a steroid injection (I think it was) that seems to keep them from any poor reactions. I had to do that with mine and now no problems with any shots.
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10-23-2014, 05:07 AM | #12 | |
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I give heartworm year round. I don't do flea protection.
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10-23-2014, 05:15 AM | #13 | |
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10-23-2014, 05:45 AM | #14 | |
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This is how I vaccinate my kiddos: -- puppy vaccines -- 1 year boosters -- rabies every 3 years, by law -- parvo/distemper at 4 yrs old again - I then consider them vaccinated for life as DOI studies indicate this and I trust those studies
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10-23-2014, 06:02 AM | #15 | |
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They do make individual vaccinations for parvo and distemper, just find a vet that will give just those and don't give in to the vet that says it won't hurt them and here I'll give them steroids first....
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