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Old 01-09-2006, 11:22 AM   #1
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Default Things to look for when purchasing a yorkie

I am looking to adopt/buy a second yorkie. I had made many mistakes the first time I did this, and do not wish to again. I had done extensive research on the subject but had heard from various people, many conflicting stories. If someone wouldn't mind clearifying this, please do so.

When is the appropriate time to bring the puppy home from a reputable breeder. I had always heard that it was in the best interest of the puppy to be taken at 12 weeks if possible. I had heard that some breeders do allow their puppies to leave at 8 to 9 weeks, put that the ideal situation would be 12. Certainly not at six weeks.

Would a reputable breeder ever not issue papers to prevent someone from breeding them? I had always thought, again thought, that if a puppy was deemed by the breeder to be unfit in any way to breed.. possibly too small or any other legitimate reasons, they would make you sign a spay/neuter contract and then offer papers afterwards. I have never, until today heard that a breeder would not issue papers since they did not want the puppy bred, but did not sign a non breeding contract or spay/neuter contract. Please clear this up for me.

If someone decides after a couple of weeks to give up the puppy, whom was purchased from a reputable breeder, would the breeder demand, in contract, that the puppy be brought back to them? Would the breeder refund the money or just take the puppy back? Would they attempt to find a good home and then refund the money? I am sure there are varied situations, but what is the norm for a breeder with a good reputation?

I would appreciate any and all information surrounding the purchase of a healthy and happy puppy. I unfortunately am going through many health issues with my three year old yorkie, due to being totally uninformed. I cannot and will not ever regret the purchase of her from a local pet shop, because our lives would not be half as great as they are without her. I do though feel her pain, on almost a daily basis, and have already spent incredible amounts of money on vet bills. I have now learned quite a bit about puppymills and byb, and have done extensive research on the topic, but still hear so much conflicting information on breeders. I am completely educated now on the ill effects of buying a puppy from a petshop but am still concerned about the many conflicting stories surrounding good breeders. Please let me know as much as you possibly can on insuring the purchases of a healthy and happy puppy. I am quite aware that congenital defects do not always show up until the puppy is close to a year old or even older, in some cases. Thank you so much for your time.
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There may be different opinions about when to take a puppy but considering all you have been through, I advise you to follow the advice of the experts. IMO the people that know best are breeders that belong to the YTCA. Go to their website www.YTCA.org and see their breeder referral list and read their code of ethics. That is the safest way to assure a healthy pet.

A breeder's experience, reputation and care for the animals is the only way we can measure how our pups should end up. I know we advise against puppymills and pet shops but for me personally, I would never buy from a commercial breeder whose main drive is money. go to the breeder talk area and read some of the opinions about different types of breeders.

YTCA members do not allow breeding of their pups that they sell as pets. They give you the paper to register them but they designate "limited" registration. (can't be bred) This is the way most reputable breeders handle registration so only top quality dogs can be bred.

there are several breeders on this board that have gained respect from YT members. take the time to get to know some of them and learn all you can. As you know, it's ALL about the breeder.

good luck finding another baby.
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Thank you so much for your suggestions. I will certainly ask the breeders on YT.
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I agree with the YTCA, at www.ytca.org as a good start breeder referral. However, I would still urge you to make sure you interview any breeder and be sure of what you are hearing. YTCA has a code of ethics that the members must agree to before joining. BUt there is a disclaimer that the Club will not be held responsible if something goes wrong and you aren't happy with the breeder on their referral.
As a bit of a checklist of a good breeder you should be looking for someone who is only selling the puppy under limited registration not allowing any breeding. It will be AKC registered and no less than 12 weeks of age. It will not be called teacup etc, you can read that bit on the YTCA site. They should be able to show you the mother and other relatives of your puppy. You want to see some of the adults as that is pretty much what your puppy will grow up to look like.
There should be guarantees and genetic guarantees for at least a couple of years. They should be very knowledgable of the breed and be imparting all kinds of information about your puppy, its care, what to avoid that sort of thing. In my contract, I also require the puppy to be returned to me anytime in its lifetime should the buyer not be able to keep it for any reason. The initial sale, when I agree to sell one to a buyer, is on a trial basis. The buyer can return it to me anytime within that first month with a full refund if it isn't working out for them. I also have genetic guarantees of 5 years, other health guarantees of one year. I also advise them of Vets in their area that are good with toy breeds.
The breeder should only be selling their own puppies. They may refer you to another breeder friend if they don't have anything for sale but knows someone who does.
They should be asking you many questions about who else will be living with this puppy, how much you are home, advise about housebreaking, what to watch for in a young pup if they are getting into hypoglycemia problems and they should be willing to answer your questions.
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There may be different opinions about when to take a puppy but considering all you have been through, I advise you to follow the advice of the experts. IMO the people that know best are breeders that belong to the YTCA. Go to their website www.YTCA.org and see their breeder referral list and read their code of ethics. That is the safest way to assure a healthy pet.

A breeder's experience, reputation and care for the animals is the only way we can measure how our pups should end up. I know we advise against puppymills and pet shops but for me personally, I would never buy from a commercial breeder whose main drive is money. go to the breeder talk area and read some of the opinions about different types of breeders.

YTCA members do not allow breeding of their pups that they sell as pets. They give you the paper to register them but they designate "limited" registration. (can't be bred) This is the way most reputable breeders handle registration so only top quality dogs can be bred.

there are several breeders on this board that have gained respect from YT members. take the time to get to know some of them and learn all you can. As you know, it's ALL about the breeder.

good luck finding another baby.

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I can't thank all of you enough. I have gained so much insight into yorkies and have become a far more informed yorkie mom. I only wish I had gone onto this site prior to getting Reese, but then again, I would not have been lucky enough to have her.

I still do believe that in all bad, much good does come out of it. Sure, I will be looking at huge medical expenses for her, and have been through a lot of pain with her. But, nothing can compare to the love my entire family has for her and what she gives back to us. I still remember the pet store owner telling me that he would exchange her... he wouldn't have been able to pry her from my arms for any amount of money, any other yorkie or for that matter ANYTHING at all. We will continue to do everything in our power to make her as healthy as possible and always as comfortable as possible.

The main lesson that I have learned, is that you must be cautious when buying a puppy. There are so many factors to take into consideration and ignorance will by no means be bliss. I honestly appreciate all of the responses that I did get and will continue to ask questions, research and read all of the information on this site. I am so glad that my family and I have found this forum.
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I had gotten great advice on what age to bring home a pup. Many people think 6 wks is too young, but it is very possible to bring home a pup at that age (thats when I got mine). The ideal time is 8 wks. The older the pup is the more attached they become to their species. The early the more attached they become to humans. This is just what I have learnt. I did a lot of research on it because I was concerned that I brought my pup home to early, but she always did great. My vet said 6 wks is OK as well as many other sources i.e. books and mags. If I had to buy another I would buy bywn 6/8 wks. This is just my opinion. Hope it helps
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Always request a Bile Acid test be done "before" you get the puppy, and make sure you see the results. All breeders should do this test. It will save you the heartache of possibly getting a puppy with Liver Shunt. Anyone that breeds yorkies could have a puppy with LS, that is why testing is so important.

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I'm so sorry with all that is going on with Reese. She's lucky to have a mommy like you to care for her. Many probably would have abandoned her and you have not done that...she is your baby and that's how it is suppose to be.

I'll try to answer your questions but all of this is my opinion.

Puppies have much development and socialization that occur between the 8-12 weeks of age. I have heard that often times, pups that are released before that time will have aggression issues when they are older. All of this is just what I've heard. I'd say to never purchase before 8 weeks of age.

Papers---many breeders only sell on spay/neuter contracts. They will hold the AKC papers (or other affiliation papers) until proof of neuter/spay is provided by the vet. Many show breeders sell on spay/neuter contracts. It really just depends on the breeder. I would not say that breeders that sell with full registation are all bad. You should really go to their home and check out their stock and see what kind of qualities the parents have and if the parents fit the breed standard...there are so many aspects to look at.

Return of the pup---again, this varies by breeders. Some will take a pup back with full refund only for a couple of days after purchase, some may be a couple of weeks, while others will do it up to a year. It all depends on what the contract states. Some contracts will state that the breeder will have first chance to buy a pup back...may be for the full amount or may not or they may not want the pup back, period.

You need to read over the contract carefully. Find out what the breeder will cover and for how long (congenial defects, etc). A good breeder will be very open with a potential buyer and if they don't want you to see the parents or premises, that's a big red flag.

Of course, this is just all my opinion and I'm sure other breeders will elaborate on this.

Best of luck to you and hugs to Reese.
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